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I recently found out I have a heart condition which poses no significant threat (increased risk of heart attack and/or death) as long as I keep fit and healthy. No drama there, I like keeping fit and healthy anyway, as I suspect most people here do. I was discussing it with someone the other day who does not find exercise and healthy eating as easy as I do. They wondered what people in their position do when they get similar news. I suggested the vast majority would make life changes in favour of exercise and healthy eating. They suggested that it might be too hard to make those changes.
Would anyone really ignore such a threat given the choice? Maybe not anyone here, being watersport enthusiasts, but do you know or have you heard of anyone taking the high risk option with a similar choice?
My 49 year old six foot 140kg Indian mate takes the unhealthy choice every time.
Never been to the doctor or hospital in his life that I'm aware of. He doesn't trust pills anyway.
Last night he bought a family pizza for himself with a 1.25 Coke.
Since he left school he has been eating at least one takeaway washed down with coke every day,occasionally two a day.
He was 75kg when I first met him and a very good sprinter 
He knows full well all the junk food will lead to a shortened life but is addicted.
He mentioned last night his dad has mentioned stomach stapling to him on a few occasions. That was a few years previous when he peaked at 153kg.
He he has lost around 10-15 kg this past 18 months playing 9 holes of golf seven days a week.
His last two golf rounds on the weekend at the Vines and Kwinana cost him 140 dollars including hire cart but not counting the petrol or the ten dollar coke and toasted sandwich that he usually buys from the canteen on each visit. All up easily 200 dollars.
He only hires a cart when he plays the long courses like Vines and Kwinana and walks the rest.
I remember 5 years ago he said to me if he ever were to come down with a serious disease he would only eat organic superfoods - so it's not as if he is not aware of what he is doing to himself.
I have had heart and head problems after a very bad wipeout 4 years ago and while I thought I ate a reasonably good diet the more I studied up on it I realised that I had a long way to go. I've been almost totally vegan for three years, I don't take any medications and try not to eat junk food. Here's a sample of what I eat which is just the start of a vegetable curry I'm making tonight which is how I eat every day.
I'm nearly 71 and walk 4-5 klm or have a surf if it's working for me. I've said this before on this site that open heart surgery is no fun.
I read a book by Dr Michael Gregor called "How not to Die" which really helped to put me on the right path.
Lots of fruit, berries, veg, beans and lentils.
The majority of people from what I have read don't make lifestyle changes but prefer to take Statins and blood thinners which comes with their own set of problems.
The simple answer is that food is your medicine. (or your poison if you continue to eat the crap that the Macas generation eat today.)
My kids have been on the "I Quit Sugar" craze for 2 years now. Even though I thought I watched what I ate, it is amazing how much further you can take things when you take a proper look.
I transformed my health through diet back in 2012. I've had a few set backs between now and then because discipline has never been my strong point but in 2016 I took on meditation which has made life so much easier and simpler.
For quite a while I have understood intellectually that the mind reacts to sensations. If the sensation is pleasant the mind will react with craving. Conversely if the sensation is unpleasant then the mind will react with aversion. The meditation has given me the control over my mind to deal with that.
The mental craving is why so many people struggle with obesity and subsequently poor health. Eating results in a pleasant sensation. The mind reacts with craving. So most people are not feeding their bodies, they are feeding a mental craving.
For a long time I had the common understanding that eating regularly is vital for health. Three square meals and snacks if hungry. That is utter bollocks and I have proved it to myself. Aside from eating mainly fruit and some vegetables I now fast two days a week. Completely. I have also been undertaking a five day fast every month but last month I stepped it up to eight days.
The effect on ones vitality has been written about quite a lot but it is something else to experience. Initially the hunger sensations were quite hard to handle but now don't have any problem.
You save quite a lot as well!
I guess I've been lucky in life and always had enough money to not have to go without food of 8 days.
If you cant have a meat pie with sauce and a beer for breakfast everyday I don't see the point in living.
If feeling like having a healthy snack of fruit, an apple pie from the golden arches is a good choice.
OK as well as diet and exercise, some researchers have discovered another factor, that the medical profession hasn't caught up with yet.
It's the germ responsible for gum disease. Apparently it can invade blood cells, and over time damage lots of important stuff.
The simple answer is to floss your teeth regularly to prevent build up of plaque.
www.newscientist.com/article/mg24332420-900-have-we-found-the-true-cause-of-diabetes-stroke-and-alzheimers/
I'm subscribed to this, so in case you can't see all of it, I'll try and post the relevant bits.
I have a work friend that was obese when I met him. He also has type 2 diabetes. My understanding is that type 2 diabetes is a symptom of being obese more than an actual cause of the obesity.
For ages my work friend blamed his job for the size he was, yet there was no one around that was the same size, and everyone did pretty much the same work.
He got made redundant from work, and a year later was no healthier, leaner, or exercising. Despite my suggestions of bike rides, he wasn't interested in doing exercise and always found excuses, but not when it came to eating out.
I suspect its a mindset and people get stuck in it. Its a shame, as exercise seems to have enough of a boost that it becomes addictive in its own right.
I don't get it myself. You only have one life, and you should try and prolong it a bit, even if it means going without some things. But it is easier to take the tasty, good food route, and not so easy to change your diet and do more exercise.
I think we are lucky that we have found a sport that we enjoy and keeps us outside and doing a little exercise, and not sitting around eating.
^^^^True, but, how many on here are in the obese range ? 85kg ++++++?? Depending on height etc.
edit.....WOW, I can hear crickets....lol.....realizing you are obese is the first step
Well, heres me at 97kgs. Lost 10 since Christmas (well I was a bit fat then). Give blood every 3 months and the blood pressure is an eyebrow lifting normal/good. Well that's the look on the face of the blood taker. Get a a health check every 12 months, get the thumbs up from the doctor and the pricks won't ring with the blood results as there is nothing to report. Every Sunday I go for a hike of between 30 to 40ks and feel great on Monday, I enjoy **** loads of salt on my food and always have 2 heaped spoons of sugar in my black, double strength coffee. Love meat and eat it every day. Anyone who thinks over 85kgs is obese has got no f#nken idea unless they see me. Big boned I hear. Bloody big feet bones (13+) so I suppose there might be some other big bones in my body. But I hardly ever eat takeaway food, no breakfast except for Coffee, only eat lunch at 12 and no f#cken snacks in between. Dinner (called tea in QLD) is an amount that fills me up and lunch is usually just one sandwich.
You can stick all that healthy food crap up up you @rse. I'm here for a good time, not a long time. I do not want to end the last ten years on my life in a dementia ward. ****, the government can't afford that, I can't afford that and neither can the planet. I'd rather die having fun than live a life of misery worrying about dying. I'd rather be a shark biscuit than a vegetable.
^^^^^lol, relax. How do you know you only have 10 years left ???
You must be really tall ?? If you are only 5 foot and weigh a whooooping 95kg, only then its an issue of diabetes and an early death from too much junk food , sugar and lack of exercise.
over 6ft is above average, not my blinkers, just facts, sorry if you think that's my fault??
Well done on dropping down from 107kgs......wow
Bad wording from me Loto. The blinkers are not your fault. The blinkers are what we are all being fed from the media. We are all individuals and can't be generalised. I see lots of people who've calf muscles smaller than my forearm muscles. I don't think I'm big, I think I'm normal. Why should I have to drop to 80kgs to fit someone else's ideal. My old man is 88 and still sharp as a tack. Had polio (f#ck you anti-vaxes) when he was a kid, so can't skip around too much. So I tend to think health may have a bit to do with genetics. I realise you can go out of your way to kill yourself with an unhealthy lifestyle, but some of us get it for free (from out parents). Yes, my mother is still alive listening to my old man's bull****. Where do you think I get it from. Go the genes
My junk food diet today,well perhaps by Japies standard.
Large tub of taboulleh. Small tub of mixed olives with dried tomatoes both from Coles.
80g of chocolate almonds - my weakness.
One organic free range egg boiled. Yellow not orange colour yolk,
One passionfruit,a pear and and a kiwi fruit. Around 10 pitted prunes.
Four small potatoes and carrots boiled.
Cup of organic herbal tea with honey before bedtime.
Have cut my calories by close to half over the years and still heading in an upward direction.
BMI was devised as a rule of thumb to assess army recruits. So, average height young men at the time (1830s) in Belgium. They were shorter than current populations.
BMI is mass/ square of height. BUT volume, hence weight of a body increases as a cube. To allow for that relationship, BMI range should go up or down by about 10% for each 10% variation.
If you are tall, you will be over BMI. Conversely a small woman can come in well below and get labelled anorexic. Not true. Little Miss Fit is not a misfit.
Then there's the "obesity paradox" where moderately overweight people (based on BMI) do better post surgery. I think it is entirely explained by the increase in BMIs due to being taller.
Of course, this all relies on the original healthy range for BMI being the correct range. It was just an estimate, guessed at when there was almost no medical or dietary knowledge
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