credit:www.usgs.gov/media/images/all-earths-water-a-single-sphere
I saw this image as part of some research I was doing on the tale of Noah's Ark. At first I was thought it was a doctored image using a credible sounding webpage. I would have guessed that all the world's water would make up a much greater volume.
I did some checking and it appears that most of the sources I could find reckon the sphere would be 1380 - 1390 km in diameter which is pretty much what the graphic suggests.(Roughly Perth to just past the WA/SA border). The oceans are just a thin film in the grand scheme of things.
Just one of those times when assumption and reality are a bit jarring.
As a little aside, there is simply not enough water on the planet to flood the entire planet to height of Mt Ararat. A local flooding event
is possible, but the geography around Mt Ararat is problematic. There is some suggestion that the Bible tale is borrowed from earlier civilisations and describes a Nile flooding event, or the breaching of the geographic 'Mediterranean' wall from Tangier across to Gibraltar. To those early cultures something of this nature would appear to be universal.
I like the Mediterranean version, that would really have seemed like a global flood, to anybody that actually survived it.
Do we have a date for that?
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As a little aside, there is simply not enough water oil the planet to flood the entire planet to height of Mt Ararat. A local flooding event is possible, but the geography around Mt Ararat is problematic.
Not sure the bible stories specifically state Mt Ararat was flooded. I think the identification of Mt Ararat as the resting place of the Ark is a modern assessment / interpretation. I think the bible stories (and other texts) only give a general geographic area for Noah and don't say anything that specific.
But it is an interesting point. So if all the water available flooded the surface it would only result in some local flooding ? That isn't what the climate alarmists preach.
But also I am not sure about the maths. Have you included the water volume that has fallen off the edge of the earth disc / off the ball earth because water doesn't stick to balls in the last 6,000 years. That would be a fair bit extra wouldn't it ?
Select to expand quoteCarantoc said..fangman said..
As a little aside, there is simply not enough water oil the planet to flood the entire planet to height of Mt Ararat. A local flooding event is possible, but the geography around Mt Ararat is problematic.
Not sure the bible stories specifically state Mt Ararat was flooded. I think the identification of Mt Ararat as the resting place of the Ark is a modern assessment / interpretation. I think the bible stories (and other texts) only give a general geographic area for Noah and don't say anything that specific.
But it is an interesting point. So if all the water available flooded the surface it would only result in some local flooding ? That isn't what the climate alarmists preach.
But also I am not sure about the maths. Have you included the water volume that has fallen off the edge of the earth disc / off the ball earth because water doesn't stick to balls in the last 6,000 years. That would be a fair bit extra wouldn't it ?
I sort of paid attention at Sunday school to the catastrophic stories, but I am no expert on the bible, so I will happily stand corrected on specifics and interpretations thereof.
(I was going to mention the issue with globes versus discs, but I just couldn't find out whether the elephants vacuumed up all the rim water spray/fish/cats/dogs and just blew it back as rain, or whether they left some for the turtle to swim in. If it's the latter, as you say, the whole thing does become rather problematic.)
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I like the Mediterranean version, that would really have seemed like a global flood, to anybody that actually survived it.
Do we have a date for that?
I haven't looked into the archaeology/geological knowledge - would be an interesting discussion. I guess about the time FN got his first paper drivers licence?
Select to expand quoteCarantoc said..
But it is an interesting point. So if all the water available flooded the surface it would only result in some local flooding ? That isn't what the climate alarmists preach.
I am not sure whether the icecaps are/not included in that graphic. It says all the freshwater, but the freshwater globe is rather small. At the scale we are looking at on that image, I guess if you have a relatively shallow pool with the (land) edges only just protruding above the waterline, it doesn't take much of an increase to inundate.
Edit: doing quick and dirty AI research on different bots - the consensus is the entirety of water on earth fits into a sphere of less that 1400km diameter.
Isn't the story based on the Black Sea inundation? It's much closer to the areas where towns were developing and more recent
animations.geol.ucsb.edu/2_infopgs/IP2IceAge/fBlackSeaFlood.html
The Post-glacial Flooding of the Black Sea,
animation and images
Ten thousand years ago, the Black Sea was an overflowing, fresh water lake. Then, during an especially arid period, its evaporation exceeded input, so that its level gradually lowered more than 100 meters. Ancient shorelines show that it was a much smaller lake, occupying only the deep, southern basin of the Black Sea. Meanwhile, global sea level was rising. About 7500 years ago, it overtopped the Bosphorus and the ocean suddenly flowed into the sea, filling the deep basin and flooding over the broad shelves to the north. This event may have been the basis for the flood story found in ancient Phoenician writings and in the Gilgamesh epic, which in turn were precursors of the biblical story of Noah's flood.
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Isn't the story based on the Black Sea inundation? It's much closer to the areas where towns were developing and more recent
animations.geol.ucsb.edu/2_infopgs/IP2IceAge/fBlackSeaFlood.html
The Post-glacial Flooding of the Black Sea,
animation and images
Ten thousand years ago, the Black Sea was an overflowing, fresh water lake. Then, during an especially arid period, its evaporation exceeded input, so that its level gradually lowered more than 100 meters. Ancient shorelines show that it was a much smaller lake, occupying only the deep, southern basin of the Black Sea. Meanwhile, global sea level was rising. About 7500 years ago, it overtopped the Bosphorus and the ocean suddenly flowed into the sea, filling the deep basin and flooding over the broad shelves to the north. This event may have been the basis for the flood story found in ancient Phoenician writings and in the Gilgamesh epic, which in turn were precursors of the biblical story of Noah's flood.
That seems more neatly resolved and would give a better link to the Mt Ararat side of things too.
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I like the Mediterranean version, that would really have seemed like a global flood, to anybody that actually survived it.
Do we have a date for that?
That was about 6 million years ago around about the time hominins separated from chimps. It's more likely to be a cultural memory from the flooding of the Black Sea. That Black Sea basin had a few lakes but it was otherwise dry and people lived there. In about 5500 BC the sea levels rose and the Med overflowed into the basin raising water levels at about 15cm a day. The Black Sea is about 2/3 the area of NSW.
www.science.org/content/article/black-sea-flood-theory-put-test
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I haven't looked into the archaeology/geological knowledge - would be an interesting discussion. I guess about the time FN got his first paper drivers licence?
I think I have figured out why there was the discrepancy between having paper driver's licenses in NSW while WA had photo ones earlier.
It's amazing what drives innovation in some cases, and I think in this case it was because in NSW it was assumed that you could read and write by the time you were old enough to get your license 
'Driver can you tell me your name and address?'
"Duh?... I have this photo of me. Is that okay?"
'Where do you live?'
"Perf?"
A decent sized meteor was said to have impacted the ocean between Australia and Africa several thousand years ago, would such an event not cause water to be lost from the biosphere?
It's hard to imagine the water droplets/steam having enough inertia to overcome the resistance from the atmosphere. But I was completely surprised by the relatively small amount of water on the planet to begin with (is that just me?) So once again, on the scale of things, overcoming a relatively thin layer of atmosphere with splash out of a relatively shallow puddle might just be another surprise result for me.
You seem to be completely ignoring the possibility of water being lost from the meteor making waves that simply sploshed over the edge of the world ?
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You seem to be completely ignoring the possibility of water being lost from the meteor making waves that simply sploshed over the edge of the world ?
It wasn't neglect on my part, as I said above, I just couldn't find out whether the elephants vacuumed up all the rim water spray/fish/cats/dogs and just blew it back as rain, or whether they left some for the turtle to swim in.
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A decent sized meteor was said to have impacted the ocean between Australia and Africa several thousand years ago, would such an event not cause water to be lost from the biosphere?
Could have caused the Middle East flooding
and varourise enough water to cause reduction in oceans
