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Best POV for GoPro

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Created by Shark Biscuit > 9 months ago, 25 May 2017
Shark Biscuit
NSW, 341 posts
25 May 2017 10:14AM
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What's your opinion on the best POV for the GoPro while kiting?
So far I have used the chest harness mount a few times, but I find the angle too low and sometimes my kite harness would obstruct the view of the camera. Also it feels very static as it always looks in the same direction.

I don't use a helmet so helmet mount is not an option for me. However what about the head mount? Does it slip off too easy?
Alternatively perhaps a mouth mount? Is this comfortable?

Richoa
NSW, 478 posts
25 May 2017 1:18PM
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nothing constructive to add, but mouth mount doesn't sound at all comfortable. All that generated spit washing back in yr face.

sounds an uncomfortable ride to demonstrate relaxation!

Piros
QLD, 7045 posts
25 May 2017 2:02PM
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The best videos I have watched is with guys that put the GP on a short pole and freehand it and then tuck back into harness. This gives multiple POV shots.

STELLA01
WA, 126 posts
25 May 2017 12:05PM
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Line mount by far PM me we are about to release an Aust made model, be careful of line mounts as most render your safety / flagout line inoperative.

STELLA01
WA, 126 posts
25 May 2017 12:09PM
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STELLA01 said..
Line mount by far PM me we are about to release an Aust made model, be careful of line mounts as most render your safety / flagout line inoperative.




Here is my 9 year old son testing our mount

Shark Biscuit
NSW, 341 posts
25 May 2017 2:16PM
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STELLA01 said..

STELLA01 said..
Line mount by far PM me we are about to release an Aust made model, be careful of line mounts as most render your safety / flagout line inoperative.





Here is my 9 year old son testing our mount


Far out your son is a real ripper! Amazing for that age.
Will PM you.

DukeSilver
WA, 394 posts
25 May 2017 12:39PM
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What an awesome little dude. I would be interested in one of these line mounts I think.

Richoa
NSW, 478 posts
25 May 2017 2:52PM
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Dam just bought a beast mount yesterday.

Great vid and can only imagine how much he will be ripping in a few years (aside from the fact he already is ripping)

no shots of your product in the vid, can we have a picture?

weebitbreezy
627 posts
25 May 2017 4:56PM
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The beast mount is a pretty good line mount. Like all of them there is a possibility of tangling the lines. Take care when rigging as when launching its easy for the rear lines to tangle on it when the kite is flipped over. Line mounts give good footage for spins and loops - also good for checking out your stylish grabs.

I like the footage from the fin mounts better but I have yet to find a good mount. I have a flymount but having seen the remains of a friends waterproof case (snapped on the backdoor joint - front half of the housing and go pro missing), I'm nervous about using it. A leash on the gopro isn't going to matter if the case splits.

The helmet cam mount is tricky to get right. Limited depth of field so your jumps never look as high as they feel on the day. Best for videoing footage of other people as you follow them around - although it can look a little shaky as you keep looking where you are going and then back to the person you are following

Going to try a shoulder mount. I suspect the angle just won't be all that great though.

KiteBud
WA, 1561 posts
25 May 2017 5:37PM
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Hi Kajo, my advice is to mix it up. Yes Mouth mount do exist, but buying a helmet just to put a mount on it is also a good option.

I agree with Piros that a short pole mount is the most versatile as you can point it in any direction you like not to mention your arm acts like a vibration dampener. It can be something as simple as a PVC pipe. You can also plant that pole and pass in front of it in shallow waters/beach. The downside of using a pole is you have to be pretty skilled and control everything with one hand, even water start with one hand, change direction, etc. Also if you follow-cam someone with it, you have to be dangerously close to that person to get footage that's any good.

Overall there is always a lot of trial and error involved in getting really good footage, and so many little issues like fog and dried salt water films on the lens that are so annoying.

I also find a huge difference with the latest GoPro 5 black and the new Xiaomi Yi 4k+ who both have great multi-axis electronic image stabilization and high FPS, it makes older generation action footage look pretty crap...

Christian

STELLA01
WA, 126 posts
25 May 2017 9:19PM
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Richoa said..
Dam just bought a beast mount yesterday.

Great vid and can only imagine how much he will be ripping in a few years (aside from the fact he already is ripping)

no shots of your product in the vid, can we have a picture?


This one will be made in Australia and will be colour coded for fool proof safety line attachment.









Shark Biscuit
NSW, 341 posts
26 May 2017 9:16AM
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Good replies. Is anyone still using the old kite strut mount or is that too far away compared to a line mount?
I've got a wrist mount and was going to use it on the strut next time I head out to test it.

Richoa
NSW, 478 posts
26 May 2017 9:29AM
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Kajo said..
Good replies. Is anyone still using the old kite strut mount or is that too far away compared to a line mount?
I've got a wrist mount and was going to use it on the strut next time I head out to test it.


I ve bought the line mount, but looking at setting up fin mount and strut mount and then blend in edit for my own amusement.
Most likely alternating cameras over diff sessions. Unless I find some real cheapie cameras delivering good 1080P???

The strut mount view is a bit far away but I still think its a good perspective when blended into video.

Richoa
NSW, 478 posts
26 May 2017 10:40AM
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The only thing I would comment for improvement, when researching the Beast mount a tech video suggested the screw securing the camera to the mount should be a flat head, to limit opportunity for line tangle.

It seemed logical, just as a suggestion you should look at that?

Looks good if I replace mine ill be in touch.

Richoa
NSW, 478 posts
26 May 2017 10:51AM
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sorry guys need wind and ill stop posting, maybe!!!

Just looking at design, if you were able to add a expanding/contracting spring load bridge across the top it would stop chance off back lines getting caught in there.

ive put some blue lines where I mean.






STELLA01
WA, 126 posts
26 May 2017 9:05AM
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sorry guys need wind and ill stop posting, maybe!!!

Just looking at design, if you were able to add a expanding/contracting spring load bridge across the top it would stop chance off back lines getting caught in there.

ive put some blue lines where I mean.







Good idea but I think it would be in the way of the lens on the session models, will have a look at it.

STELLA01
WA, 126 posts
26 May 2017 9:08AM
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STElla said:




The only thing I would comment for improvement, when researching the Beast mount a tech video suggested the screw securing the camera to the mount should be a flat head, to limit opportunity for line tangle.

It seemed logical, just as a suggestion you should look at that?

Looks good if I replace mine ill be in touch.



That's an easy fix just wanted to make it tool less camera attachment

DEECEE
NSW, 45 posts
26 May 2017 11:33AM
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WOW, I want to be just like that little kid when I grow up!!!

dafish
NSW, 1640 posts
26 May 2017 6:33PM
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Kajo said..
Good replies. Is anyone still using the old kite strut mount or is that too far away compared to a line mount?
I've got a wrist mount and was going to use it on the strut next time I head out to test it.


I have a wrist mount and do use it on the strut. It works well. I still like the fishpole idea as another pov. Looking that that line mount setup makes me want to try that. Count me in when they are ready to ship :)

STELLA01
WA, 126 posts
27 May 2017 12:15PM
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dafish said..

Kajo said..
Good replies. Is anyone still using the old kite strut mount or is that too far away compared to a line mount?
I've got a wrist mount and was going to use it on the strut next time I head out to test it.



I have a wrist mount and do use it on the strut. It works well. I still like the fishpole idea as another pov. Looking that that line mount setup makes me want to try that. Count me in when they are ready to ship :)


Hoping to have the website functional this weekend

deanrobi
VIC, 641 posts
28 May 2017 7:59PM
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Used the Gopro Drone yesterday, need to get closer and upwind next time. Handled the wind ok, gusty 22+knots

Richoa
NSW, 478 posts
28 May 2017 10:09PM
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Used the Gopro Drone yesterday, need to get closer and upwind next time. Handled the wind ok, gusty 22+knots


Awesome Dean, Long range of these cameras getting so much better with detail. How far would drone of been from kiting action? And is it being piloted or are you using some sort gps tracking

deanrobi
VIC, 641 posts
29 May 2017 7:41AM
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deanrobi said..
Used the Gopro Drone yesterday, need to get closer and upwind next time. Handled the wind ok, gusty 22+knots



Awesome Dean, Long range of these cameras getting so much better with detail. How far would drone of been from kiting action? And is it being piloted or are you using some sort gps tracking


Im still coming to grips with the distance thing, it looks on the screen of the controller that you are closer, im piloting it. Because of the wind and so many kiters out , i was hesitant to take it any further out than just off the shore line, next time when its just my crew there i will take it out and be on the upwind side of the action, less chance of getting a kite strike

STELLA01
WA, 126 posts
31 May 2017 7:23AM
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dafish said..

Kajo said..
Good replies. Is anyone still using the old kite strut mount or is that too far away compared to a line mount?
I've got a wrist mount and was going to use it on the strut next time I head out to test it.



I have a wrist mount and do use it on the strut. It works well. I still like the fishpole idea as another pov. Looking that that line mount setup makes me want to try that. Count me in when they are ready to ship :)


Website up and running check out www.surfwindsun.com

JKimbler
317 posts
31 May 2017 8:55AM
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I like the strut mount, but only if the waves are kind of big and only for stills. Otherwise it's not too great. I just got a "grill mount" after doing lots of helmet cam but sick of the helmet. I like that with the grill mount I can take it out and point it at my buddies, or fold it and tuck it into my wet suit top if I don't want to use it. I got a little armband coil leash for it, works pretty good. I have a session so it's really light and feels fine to ride with.
Strut shot from this spring:



Shark Biscuit
NSW, 341 posts
31 May 2017 11:05AM
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I like the strut mount, but only if the waves are kind of big and only for stills. Otherwise it's not too great. I just got a "grill mount" after doing lots of helmet cam but sick of the helmet. I like that with the grill mount I can take it out and point it at my buddies, or fold it and tuck it into my wet suit top if I don't want to use it. I got a little armband coil leash for it, works pretty good. I have a session so it's really light and feels fine to ride with.
Strut shot from this spring:




The still do make it look great. Is the video footage otherwise too unsteady due to the kite movement/rotation? Which grill mount did you get? The Pro Standard one?

bigtone667
NSW, 1513 posts
31 May 2017 11:20AM
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Kajo said..
What's your opinion on the best POV for the GoPro while kiting?
So far I have used the chest harness mount a few times, but I find the angle too low and sometimes my kite harness would obstruct the view of the camera. Also it feels very static as it always looks in the same direction.

I don't use a helmet so helmet mount is not an option for me. However what about the head mount? Does it slip off too easy?
Alternatively perhaps a mouth mount? Is this comfortable?


Hi Kajo, the mount mount works really well (apart from the dribble!!!).

I grabbed a GoPro Hero5 Session with the mouth mount and added a halyard.

The first thing I did was soak the mount piece in my favourite cordial to improve the overall taste (I hate rubber :-)).

I set it up so I can kite with it hanging around my neck on the halyard, and then jam it in my mount and activate when I want to film something. The single button activation makes this all really easy.

I also found no issues getting decent footage but had to watch how high I raised my forward arm. Got a few Arnold Bicep shots (lol).

JKimbler
317 posts
31 May 2017 2:42PM
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Kajo,
I think that for wave riding there is just way too much kite movement, I can watch it ok, but non-kiters might get dizzy... I got the pro standard grill mount and after I heated it up and molded it it fit so perfect. Doesn't take much effort at all to hold it in your mouth with a gopro session + floaty. Here's a quicky strut mount vid if you want to see what I could come up with:

Richoa
NSW, 478 posts
31 May 2017 9:15PM
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Great shot!

Shark Biscuit
NSW, 341 posts
1 Jun 2017 9:38AM
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Kajo said..
What's your opinion on the best POV for the GoPro while kiting?
So far I have used the chest harness mount a few times, but I find the angle too low and sometimes my kite harness would obstruct the view of the camera. Also it feels very static as it always looks in the same direction.

I don't use a helmet so helmet mount is not an option for me. However what about the head mount? Does it slip off too easy?
Alternatively perhaps a mouth mount? Is this comfortable?



Hi Kajo, the mount mount works really well (apart from the dribble!!!).

I grabbed a GoPro Hero5 Session with the mouth mount and added a halyard.

The first thing I did was soak the mount piece in my favourite cordial to improve the overall taste (I hate rubber :-)).

I set it up so I can kite with it hanging around my neck on the halyard, and then jam it in my mount and activate when I want to film something. The single button activation makes this all really easy.

I also found no issues getting decent footage but had to watch how high I raised my forward arm. Got a few Arnold Bicep shots (lol).


That's good stuff Tony, have you got some footage of it? Which mouth mount did you go with?

bigtone667
NSW, 1513 posts
1 Jun 2017 12:26PM
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Mouth mount POV.



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