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I think they should ban all short masts in fact I think they should double the length of all foil masts for all those who expect to learn foiling without going through some sort of pain.
geez just think how bad a lateral crash would be 
detatch your ankles me thinks. 
4 hours into the foil learning curve and very happy to have a 1 mtr mast, gives more time to correct a rising foil before ventilation happens.
Having your front foot way forward really helps controlling the nose coming up too fast.
Hi guys,i did a foiling clinic last week in Sydney's Dolls Point beach.I must say its pretty much the perfect location to foil and learn how to foil and also pretty damn nice to race and go fast throughout the bay.I had 3 complete beginners and a bunch of advanced guys learning foiling manoeuvres and techniques. We also spend a bit of time tuning their kites, foils and boards.The Beginners:One guy had a liquid force fish, he is an experienced kiter. The other two guys used a KFA MakoV1 with a fat boy board 32litres. Both guys on the KFA/ Fat boy got up and foiling on the 1st days while the other guy on the Liquid force still didn't get up after 2 days. However all had a ball.Main reasons for the above are the board and the lower take off/ stall speed of the lifty KFA foil which both helped the guys to get up and going easier. Especially the volume and weight of the board helps a lot with water start and riding the board in water before take off. The lighter foil makes it easier to get going. Always start off with a 9/10 or 12m kite in 10-16 knots. That the best windspeed to learn and progress up onto the foil.The smiles and stoke on the faces of people is amazing, always reminds me of kids riding their 1st meters on the kite board..
Kami leave in th loopy alone he did run a clinic that 3 turned up to and he did have a 66% success rate. That surely gives him another pimping opportunity.
There were also more experienced people at the clinic I gather so I'm not sure that's a fair jab. I ride a different brand (spotz) but I'd attend a foiling clinic by marvin if he had one in Perth.
I haven't ridden the LF foil but while I'm curious how it'd compare to my Spotz 2, I frankly didn't have all that much trouble learning directly on a carbon race foil. I paid less for a refurbished/reenforced Spotz 2 and board than I would have spent on an entry level setup and I can't see myself needing to upgrade anytime soon. Although having a second slower low aspect foil some day to surf and play around like Greg Drexler of BRM has crossed my mind.
Im with Bletti.
I'd 100% attend a clinic if i thought it could help with more advanced moves like tacking and upwind 360. Im also riding 2 foils at the moment - KFA Mako with a race(ish) board and a Magma Barracuda with a small 125cm strapless TMV. Both offer high challenged and are totally different experiences. Anyone whose seen Marv;s Ninja Tack clip would know he's got a lot to offer !
than
Quick update to the homebuild. Near foil is version 2, about 16 mm at the center, far foil is version 3, 13 mm at the middle, center horizontal stab is 7 at the center.
Had some issues with the 3D Printer so couldn't keep going with designs till I get a new temp thermister. But in meantime smashed into a big rock with the original foil, wing survived but fuselage didn't, so have a new idea to try with the fuselage, as soon as the printer is back up and running. I am surprised with the strength of CFRP!
This threads getting a bit Bitchy!
Think you all should get the sand out of ya vaginas!
I have the Zeeko Alloy and it is in a another league compared to the entry level LF and cabrinas.You pay for it and more again for the carbons..
It is beautifully made with proper foil shapes and tapered fuselage etc.
I also have the zeeko Pocket board and as a learner (I can ride reasonably but not so good on the transitions) I have to say the large nose rocker has saved me from nose dives I thought were inevitable. crashes.
I am not sure this post fits here anymore.. someone mentioned nose rocker right..
Laird wasn't attached to a kite though. I like my joints in their sockets...
Shorter fuse is more reactive but you also have to react faster.
I wish people would stop throwing out specific rules for line lengths. One size never fits all.
I want to get into Foiling but don't want to spend over $1.5k.... and I don't really want the Foil fish as I've read it's a bit slow and you quickly grow out of it. Anyone have any ideas where to look or what to get?
Just about every season old race foil sells for under 1500 now.On average spotz2 going for 1200-1400.
In some of the older original versions of spozt2 yes there were issues, and the wort wing can develop a wobble.Mine took just under a year and the week it went was due to boosting and riding it in mental conditions. Unless you been racing fora solid season and don't using is for boosting, the front wing should last a solid season, then a just pick up a cheap replacement front wing for around 450
Take a old board and DIY putting in your own box.
Vast majority of foilers in Aus learn't on race foils, even if you dont want to race, a race foil is great to cruise.... racers dont race evey day, 9/10 sessions they just go cruising, but cruise faster than you could on a foilfish.
And not sure why the hate on foil racing gear, with many racers buying upgrade foils every season so there is heaps of cheap used foils for sale. Same with kites...Look how many tube ace kites were available at awesome prices when they raced inflatables, hardly any now as they now onto foil kites and again... there great bargain offers to be had if you keep intouch with the racers selling off gear. Ive helped sell 9 season old carbon race foils for under 1500 in the past 5 months. many don't even make it as far as the classifieds before being sold.
if you have a preference to certain brand, or style, as most people do thats ok... your opinions is your own, dont force it on others. Its your stoke, your fun, your money, do it how ever you want with whatever gear you want.
Again with the speed! Asking why it's relevant isn't hating: if you're not actually racing, what does it matter how fast your foil is? (apart from increasing your PKE when you slam into the water. Ouch.)
I've yet to hear a cogent answer to that.
Here's an anecdote for you . . .
Last week out with my buddy. He had a Levitaz and a Sonic 9, I had my Foil Fish and a 2011 Switchblade 14m cos I knew it was going to rain and I didn't need a soggy foil to deal with.
He wasn't steaming away from me, either in straight-line speed or upwind angle. I doubt he was at race pace, so just for cruising we weren't unmatched. . . .
If you don't want used, the cheapest setup I've seen is the thekitefoil.com rig. Free shipping too.
