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Created by Wiski23 > 9 months ago, 16 Nov 2014
Wiski23
37 posts
16 Nov 2014 7:58PM
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hi, I can do unhooked raleys and s-bends are in progress, my main issue is when kiting in heavy winds or gusty conditions and I bang out a raley on occasions I go flying through the air dangling from the kite unhooked. Then I eat sh"t on the way down.Like an uncontrolled boost. Why? It's bloody frustrating because it's killing my confidence to unhook in anything over 15-18 knots.
am I possible sending the kite, even though I'm holding both hands at centre of bar??? At the same time I watch more experienced riders unhook with the same size kite in same conditions and they seem fine. Even when they unhook with their kites towards 11 on gusty days...Sigh.... Any info would be great guys.
Did anyone else have these kook outs to start with? S-bends seem fine.

Rails
QLD, 1371 posts
17 Nov 2014 6:58AM
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Wiski23 said..
hi, I can do unhooked raleys and s-bends are in progress, my main issue is when kiting in heavy winds or gusty conditions and I bang out a raley on occasions I go flying through the air dangling from the kite unhooked. Then I eat sh"t on the way down.Like an uncontrolled boost. Why? It's bloody frustrating because it's killing my confidence to unhook in anything over 15-18 knots.
am I possible sending the kite, even though I'm holding both hands at centre of bar??? At the same time I watch more experienced riders unhook with the same size kite in same conditions and they seem fine. Even when they unhook with their kites towards 11 on gusty days...Sigh.... Any info would be great guys.
Did anyone else have these kook outs to start with? S-bends seem fine.


Sounds like you are sending the kite, I used to get the dangles when i started unhooking
keep the kite a bit lower and pull a bit more on front hand

kemp90
QLD, 1694 posts
17 Nov 2014 10:13AM
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Rails said..

Wiski23 said..
hi, I can do unhooked raleys and s-bends are in progress, my main issue is when kiting in heavy winds or gusty conditions and I bang out a raley on occasions I go flying through the air dangling from the kite unhooked. Then I eat sh"t on the way down.Like an uncontrolled boost. Why? It's bloody frustrating because it's killing my confidence to unhook in anything over 15-18 knots.
am I possible sending the kite, even though I'm holding both hands at centre of bar??? At the same time I watch more experienced riders unhook with the same size kite in same conditions and they seem fine. Even when they unhook with their kites towards 11 on gusty days...Sigh.... Any info would be great guys.
Did anyone else have these kook outs to start with? S-bends seem fine.



Sounds like you are sending the kite, I used to get the dangles when i started unhooking
keep the kite a bit lower and pull a bit more on front hand


for sure bro! your kite is too high. if I have my kite at 11 im going to be dangling for days. if im unhooking I never have my kite above 45!

Wiski23
37 posts
17 Nov 2014 9:03AM
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Cheers guys! Will concentrate on keeping the kite lower and that front hand!
Thought as much as my s-bends i dont have this problem.
Much appreciated

NickT
WA, 1094 posts
17 Nov 2014 12:01PM
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Are you splitting the lines with your back hand?

Wiski23
37 posts
17 Nov 2014 7:20PM
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NickT said...
Are you splitting the lines with your back hand?


Not sure sorry? Do you mean running the lines through my back hand fingers? If so thats a great idea man!

NickT
WA, 1094 posts
18 Nov 2014 11:33PM
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Exactly, helps keep the kite down. Split the center lines with your index and middle finger.

Trapped
NSW, 220 posts
19 Nov 2014 8:23AM
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Does someone have a photo or a video that demonstrates 'splitting the lines'
I have no idea what you're talking about but it seems to be needed.

kitcho207
NSW, 861 posts
19 Nov 2014 10:13AM
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hey, just means holding the bar right in the middle with one hand. 2 fingers on either side of the depower line.
makes sure the is no turning of the kite and it sits parked when you jump.

Drury
NSW, 502 posts
19 Nov 2014 11:21AM
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Drury
NSW, 502 posts
19 Nov 2014 11:23AM
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Most people think their kite is low when they first start doing unhooked tricks but in reality it is around 11 or 1 o'clock depending on which tack you're on. You want it at 45 degrees or lower ideally. If you can't get off the water with your kite lower then you need to go back to basics and start working on your pop again. See how you go with the crossed fingers and the lower kite and report back

azza86
QLD, 57 posts
19 Nov 2014 10:24AM
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Nice tip thanks

Wiski23
37 posts
9 Dec 2014 5:37PM
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So splitting the lines has definitely helped with my raleys, no more floating through the air and much better on keeping the kite parked.
Took a bit of getting use to unhooking thou, I kept missing the unhook off the bar.

Now my next issue (I know ride boots) I can't keep my board on my feet when throwing an s-bend. Bloody frustrating. Gonna try to find some heal straps...

Also on occasions im not getting in the full rotation. I've been told to park my kite higher to give me more time, but I read it's easier if it's lower so you don't get pulled of axis and helps to initiate the spin.... Hmmm

kemp90
QLD, 1694 posts
9 Dec 2014 8:32PM
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Haha I just realized I follow you on instagram!

Wallis1986
QLD, 130 posts
10 Dec 2014 12:48PM
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I had to stop doing sbends because my back foot would come out 3/4 of the time and was annoying the **** out of me, all because my good footsraps broke and i replaced them with cheap ebay jobs. So id say either hunt down some really good fitting footsraps or get some boots. Ive just got some boots havnt got a chance to try them yet. Try learning raley to blinds if u cant already, easy move to keep the feet in.

kemp90
QLD, 1694 posts
10 Dec 2014 1:24PM
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Wallis1986 said...
I had to stop doing sbends because my back foot would come out 3/4 of the time and was annoying the **** out of me, all because my good footsraps broke and i replaced them with cheap ebay jobs. So id say either hunt down some really good fitting footsraps or get some boots. Ive just got some boots havnt got a chance to try them yet. Try learning raley to blinds if u cant already, easy move to keep the feet in.


I no the Nash apex are an amazing binding, not that I would ever use foot pads agen!

Wallis1986
QLD, 130 posts
10 Dec 2014 2:58PM
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kemp90 how have you found relaunching in boots? Sometime when the wingtip has water on it, it seems like it would be impossible to relaunch without getting out of the boots and walking towards it. Also sometime when i crash i loop the kite to stop it crashing while it skulldrags me, i assume this wont work anymore as the board will stop me moving and stretch me or rip the hadle out of my hands?

tomme
VIC, 475 posts
10 Dec 2014 4:49PM
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are you riding a 5 line kite??? if so pull the **** out of the 5th line then slowly pull to one side...i sucked at this untill recently,

obvious as heck but took me ages to really understand.

Wallis1986
QLD, 130 posts
10 Dec 2014 3:55PM
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yeh 5 line vegas. ive been pulling the center lines in 1 armfull then let go, should i pull it even further?

pedleym
WA, 168 posts
14 Dec 2014 11:02PM
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Now my next issue (I know ride boots) I can't keep my board on my feet when throwing an s-bend. Bloody frustrating. Gonna try to find some heal straps...




bodyboard wax on the foot pads

glasstraxx
WA, 321 posts
15 Dec 2014 11:01AM
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i was practising raileys last night for the first time and I notice that wen i was bearing off down wind and unhooking I was putting too much pressure on my back hand during the unhook and carving part which sent the kite causing me to dangle . More front hand pressure fixed this...

Also can def vouch for naish apex pads they are awesome!

kemp90
QLD, 1694 posts
15 Dec 2014 1:35PM
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Wallis1986 said...
kemp90 how have you found relaunching in boots? Sometime when the wingtip has water on it, it seems like it would be impossible to relaunch without getting out of the boots and walking towards it. Also sometime when i crash i loop the kite to stop it crashing while it skulldrags me, i assume this wont work anymore as the board will stop me moving and stretch me or rip the hadle out of my hands?


Yeh man i dont have this problem cause I use a 5th. Pull it enough so it rolls and pull a stearing line. It kind of look like a sail on a boat. I find I have to pull alot more 5th on my 13 then I do on my 9 but it's a really easy technique

Wallis1986
QLD, 130 posts
15 Dec 2014 6:58PM
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Cool thanks Kemp90 should help allot. Also do you pull just the fifth line or pull the whole center lines as in all 3. Ive been pulling the whole center lines.

kemp90
QLD, 1694 posts
15 Dec 2014 9:16PM
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Wallis1986 said...
Cool thanks Kemp90 should help allot. Also do you pull just the fifth line or pull the whole center lines as in all 3. Ive been pulling the whole center lines.


Just that middle 1 bro. Took me a little wile to figure it out also. Its a real pain somtimes when you don't have you donkey dick in and the loop falls off the hook! That happens to me so friking much!

Wiski23
37 posts
16 Dec 2014 6:02PM
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kemp90 said..
Haha I just realized I follow you on instagram!


Lol me? Do I follow you back?

kemp90
QLD, 1694 posts
16 Dec 2014 8:25PM
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Wiski23 said...
kemp90 said..
Haha I just realized I follow you on instagram!


Lol me? Do I follow you back?


Yeh bro I'm elliot.b.kite

tomme
VIC, 475 posts
17 Dec 2014 4:57PM
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For what its worth... get some boots, i broke my leg on an S-bend gone bad in straps, i now have 7 inch of steel and 9 screws in my leg and had to relearn to walk.

can tell you that was wayy more time pain and money than a set of boots.



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