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Who the hell uses 2:1 bar pressure pulley system!?

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Created by drewpweiner > 9 months ago, 18 Dec 2016
drewpweiner
WA, 501 posts
18 Dec 2016 7:42PM
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I just changed from 2:1 to 1:1 for the first time ever today after learning on 2:1 and all I have to say is OMFG! Who the hell designed 2:1? And why!?!?!

I got blisters on my hands from riding 2:1 over a few weeks and my arm muscles are all cooked! I had so much more power on the 1:1 today compared to the 2:1... I would literally just dive the kite and I'm up, but in the 2:1 I had to swing it from 3'oclock to 9oclock or loop it hard to really get going. I would say 1:1 gave me about 30-40% more power than 2:1.

Ridiculous nonsense! It is as bad as the invention of the square wheel!

Rails
QLD, 1371 posts
18 Dec 2016 11:23PM
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nice that you're learning to kite
but wtf

drewpweiner
WA, 501 posts
19 Dec 2016 9:58AM
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Rails said..
nice that you're learning to kite
but wtf


wat? wtf doesn't answer my question? Why does this thing exist?

yendor
NSW, 262 posts
19 Dec 2016 3:22PM
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I had it on a 2006 cab crossbow.
But from 2007 I don't think they did 2to1 anymore.
It must be an old bar.
Pretty sure 2 to 1 had more throw.
More de power at the bar.

drewpweiner
WA, 501 posts
19 Dec 2016 2:06PM
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yendor said..
I had it on a 2006 cab crossbow.
But from 2007 I don't think they did 2to1 anymore.
It must be an old bar.
Pretty sure 2 to 1 had more throw.
More de power at the bar.




Ooohh, it adds more depower! That is why i felt so over powered when I switched over. This means I can take my 10m kite out in 25-30knt winds if I rig it up 2:1 and fully depower it.

What does throw mean? is it this?

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
19 Dec 2016 4:28PM
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Throw = how far the bar moves

yendor
NSW, 262 posts
20 Dec 2016 12:16PM
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Tell us what bar and kite your using.
You will get more feedback.

Chris_M
2129 posts
20 Dec 2016 4:50PM
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If you are getting blisters on your hands, try wearing fingerless gloves.

Also, a fannypack will help because you will be able to keep carbo shots and other high performance potions in it similar to those of a triathlete etc

NorthernKitesAUS
QLD, 1075 posts
8 Feb 2017 2:33PM
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drewpweiner said..

Ridiculous nonsense! It is as bad as the invention of the square wheel!


No, not really.

It depends on wind strength and it's a great way to reduce chances of you choking your kite in light winds.

I have an old Naish Boxer SLE 15m kite with the 2:1 pulley bar system, and I am able to kite in just over 10knots (there is a video of me doing just that on utube somewhere).

Mowing the lawn of course. Nothing else. And hardly any upwind. But it beats not being out there!

I guess the extra pulling power which is meant to double with the 2:1 system, is that I can sine the kite faster through the window generating more apparent wind. On the 1:1 setting, I hardly have any control of the kite.



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