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When the boat breaks

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Created by Dexport > 9 months ago, 19 Aug 2017
Dexport
303 posts
19 Aug 2017 10:58AM
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I set off from Townsville with the goal of spending a month in the Louiseiades then over to the Solomons.
I didn't make it very far! A broken chainplate forced me to sail to Cairns for repairs.

dreamliner
NSW, 110 posts
19 Aug 2017 1:28PM
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great vid.

twodogs1969
NSW, 1000 posts
19 Aug 2017 3:11PM
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Is thus your new boat or the old one?

Dexport
303 posts
19 Aug 2017 1:14PM
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twodogs1969 said..
Is thus your new boat or the old one?


Its the one I've cruised in for the last 3 years. Just sold her a week ago

Datawiz
VIC, 605 posts
20 Aug 2017 10:08AM
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Great video Dexport, congratulations.
Congratulations also on your jury rig - well done!
regards,
allan

Wander66
QLD, 294 posts
20 Aug 2017 2:33PM
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Dexport said..
I set off from Townsville with the goal of spending a month in the Louiseiades then over to the Solomons.
I didn't make it very far! A broken chainplate forced me to sail to Cairns for repairs.



I know you're not superstitious but perhaps the name change upset Poseidon, might be an idea to pick up a lucky rabbit's foot and perform a boat rename ceremony before you leave Cairns ??. www.boatnames.com.au/boat-naming-ceremony/

MorningBird
NSW, 2680 posts
20 Aug 2017 3:09PM
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Great story and video. Well done on the jury rig, took your time and thought it through. I hope I can do that when I need to.

southace
SA, 4783 posts
20 Aug 2017 3:01PM
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Great stuff your videos inspire me to get my yacht cruising again as soon as I get back to her in a few months. I love the transom duck board that's going to be one of my first jobs!

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
20 Aug 2017 7:58PM
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great Job !! cool under pressure ! and able to film it as well ....amazing !!

Dexport
303 posts
20 Aug 2017 6:06PM
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Wander66 said..

Dexport said..
I set off from Townsville with the goal of spending a month in the Louiseiades then over to the Solomons.
I didn't make it very far! A broken chainplate forced me to sail to Cairns for repairs.




I know you're not superstitious but perhaps the name change upset Poseidon, might be an idea to pick up a lucky rabbit's foot and perform a boat rename ceremony before you leave Cairns ??. www.boatnames.com.au/boat-naming-ceremony/


Haha Wanderer. See If I even entertained the thought then bad things would probably start happening.

Dexport
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20 Aug 2017 6:07PM
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southace said..
Great stuff your videos inspire me to get my yacht cruising again as soon as I get back to her in a few months. I love the transom duck board that's going to be one of my first jobs!


Yep Southace, that is one of my most loved things about that boat!

andy59
QLD, 1153 posts
21 Aug 2017 2:27AM
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Great vid, tough luck on the breakage, but it mak s for a better story??

shaggybaxter
QLD, 2587 posts
21 Aug 2017 5:35AM
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Thanks Dexport,
Great video, always good to see what other yachties are up to!
Especially when I've got an hour long commute in front of me, and you're sitting in Cairns...sigh.
My boat is currently stooging around Hervey Bay for a week, a couple of friends took their wives and a sister for a week off.
I'm doubly jealous, everyone is on the water!

Kankama
NSW, 724 posts
21 Aug 2017 6:27AM
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Thanks for the video. The island looked fabulous. Which island is it?

Phil

Sectorsteve
QLD, 2195 posts
21 Aug 2017 7:27AM
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Well done bro. You make great vids. So cruising stopped for a while for you?
I now feel its worth it to be carrying around an old 10m 6mm stay!
Im loving cruising but geez its a bit stressful. I reckon by the time I'm adjusted itll be home time.

Dexport
303 posts
21 Aug 2017 8:03AM
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Sectorsteve said..
Well done bro. You make great vids. So cruising stopped for a while for you?
I now feel its worth it to be carrying around an old 10m 6mm stay!
Im loving cruising but geez its a bit stressful. I reckon by the time I'm adjusted itll be home time.


Haha, classic, when you get back from your trip you'll need a long holiday!
I won't be cruising again until May 18 most likely. My season always goes from May till October. I'm looking for boats now, seen 8 so far. Went and looked at the Sayer 37 in Brisbane yesterday, she's the only one so far that I could imagine buying.

Dexport
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21 Aug 2017 8:08AM
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Kankama said..
Thanks for the video. The island looked fabulous. Which island is it?

Phil


Cheers Phil. Its Northwest Cay of the Herald Cays group. Quite a few little sand cays around this area, I chose that one to visit as it looked like having the most sheltered anchorage. About an hour out there was still a 2m swell but when I got in really close it calmed right down and was very nice. Good sand bottom with good holding. It was a funny feeling. When you're in the whitsundays or similar you'll often rock up to a perfect anchorage and be alone, come 2-3pm though and boats will start appearing and by dark there could be up to 20 boats anchored. Out there I kept expecting that sort of and was surprised every time I scanned the horizon and saw nothing.

Dexport
303 posts
21 Aug 2017 8:42AM
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shaggybaxter said..
Thanks Dexport,
Great video, always good to see what other yachties are up to!
Especially when I've got an hour long commute in front of me, and you're sitting in Cairns...sigh.
My boat is currently stooging around Hervey Bay for a week, a couple of friends took their wives and a sister for a week off.
I'm doubly jealous, everyone is on the water!


Cheers Shaggy

Wow, thats mighty big of you to lend your boat out!
On another subject, I know you have a boat that many would call "not your average cruiser". The boat I looked at yesterday would fall under that category in my eyes. Do you know this boat?
http://www.boatpoint.com.au/boats-for-sale/dealer/used/OAG-AD-14812035/2004-SAYER-37/?cr=0&psq=%28%28%28Make%3D%5BSAYER%5D%26Model%3D%5B37%5D%29%26%28%28%28SiloType%3D%5BDealer%20used%20boats%5D%7CSiloType%3D%5BDealer%20new%20boats%5D%29%7CSiloType%3D%5BPrivate%20used%20boats%5D%29%7CSiloType%3D%5BDemo%20and%20near%20new%20boats%5D%29%29%26Service%3D%5BBoatsales%5D%29&pso=0&pss=Premium

I was very impressed by it and could imagine myself as the owner. Obviously would have to be more careful about running aground than on my old boat with the full keel. Less of a "homely" feel for sure but I love the functionality of it and also the ability to travel at a good speed

Yara
NSW, 1290 posts
21 Aug 2017 2:29PM
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Dexport said..

shaggybaxter said..
Thanks Dexport,
Great video, always good to see what other yachties are up to!
Especially when I've got an hour long commute in front of me, and you're sitting in Cairns...sigh.
My boat is currently stooging around Hervey Bay for a week, a couple of friends took their wives and a sister for a week off.
I'm doubly jealous, everyone is on the water!



Cheers Shaggy

Wow, thats mighty big of you to lend your boat out!
On another subject, I know you have a boat that many would call "not your average cruiser". The boat I looked at yesterday would fall under that category in my eyes. Do you know this boat?
http://www.boatpoint.com.au/boats-for-sale/dealer/used/OAG-AD-14812035/2004-SAYER-37/?cr=0&psq=%28%28%28Make%3D%5BSAYER%5D%26Model%3D%5B37%5D%29%26%28%28%28SiloType%3D%5BDealer%20used%20boats%5D%7CSiloType%3D%5BDealer%20new%20boats%5D%29%7CSiloType%3D%5BPrivate%20used%20boats%5D%29%7CSiloType%3D%5BDemo%20and%20near%20new%20boats%5D%29%29%26Service%3D%5BBoatsales%5D%29&pso=0&pss=Premium

I was very impressed by it and could imagine myself as the owner. Obviously would have to be more careful about running aground than on my old boat with the full keel. Less of a "homely" feel for sure but I love the functionality of it and also the ability to travel at a good speed


I would worry about the 200kg ballast.

Dexport
303 posts
21 Aug 2017 12:55PM
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Yara said..

Dexport said..


shaggybaxter said..
Thanks Dexport,
Great video, always good to see what other yachties are up to!
Especially when I've got an hour long commute in front of me, and you're sitting in Cairns...sigh.
My boat is currently stooging around Hervey Bay for a week, a couple of friends took their wives and a sister for a week off.
I'm doubly jealous, everyone is on the water!




Cheers Shaggy

Wow, thats mighty big of you to lend your boat out!
On another subject, I know you have a boat that many would call "not your average cruiser". The boat I looked at yesterday would fall under that category in my eyes. Do you know this boat?
http://www.boatpoint.com.au/boats-for-sale/dealer/used/OAG-AD-14812035/2004-SAYER-37/?cr=0&psq=%28%28%28Make%3D%5BSAYER%5D%26Model%3D%5B37%5D%29%26%28%28%28SiloType%3D%5BDealer%20used%20boats%5D%7CSiloType%3D%5BDealer%20new%20boats%5D%29%7CSiloType%3D%5BPrivate%20used%20boats%5D%29%7CSiloType%3D%5BDemo%20and%20near%20new%20boats%5D%29%29%26Service%3D%5BBoatsales%5D%29&pso=0&pss=Premium

I was very impressed by it and could imagine myself as the owner. Obviously would have to be more careful about running aground than on my old boat with the full keel. Less of a "homely" feel for sure but I love the functionality of it and also the ability to travel at a good speed



I would worry about the 200kg ballast.


Yeah Yara, that is a worry. Nah, its has a ballast ratio of 45% so should be pretty stiff

Sectorsteve
QLD, 2195 posts
21 Aug 2017 3:10PM
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She'll be fast.

Dexport
303 posts
21 Aug 2017 1:22PM
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She'll be fast.


Yeah you can see that walking down the jetty. I've never sailed a boat like this and am more wondering how she would be over a longer trip. Would she be a boat you'd have to watch all the time or would she go ok if reefed and sailed conservatively? I can compare it to racing cars as I used to drive them. Some cars go like the clappers but are horrible if driven slowly, others are docile and good mannered but also go like a cut snake when needed.

shaggybaxter
QLD, 2587 posts
22 Aug 2017 8:19PM
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G'day Dexport,
No, I cannot say I raced much against Schiehallion. But I do have a soft spot for Sayer.
To me, I associate John Sayer yachts as tough, seagoing boats that eat miles. There's not much I don't like ; fast, stiff, tough, fast. Head room. Open transom, tiller steer, better for short handed.
Bad points; Cripes...errr...think of something, open simple plan, barren'?sque when compared to bendytoy. If it's composite, ie: unlike a cedar core, it can be noisy below. The 12.50 is like an amplifier, you here every. little. sound.
45% B/D? Wow. It must be the low weight (4700kg). It's only a 2.1 mtr draft with an apparently modest bulb.

I reckon she would have excellent sea manners.

Thread hijack...B/D doesn't tell you how tender a yacht is, does it? IIRC, you can have the ballast at the top of the keel or deep on a bulb and your B/D doesn't change. Her AVS diagram would be interesting to see (beam, hull shape), but knowing Sayer it would be impressive.
I'm pretty sure John's father also designed, but more ferro cruisers? I'm unsure what they're like, but Schiehallion, it looks like a nice boat at a ****teenth of its value.

She seems quite wide regards stability. I don't think I've ever seen a yacht doing max speed with full rags up..well, aside from us once, and that was a big mistake.
Cheers,
SB

Dexport
303 posts
22 Aug 2017 7:12PM
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shaggybaxter said..
G'day Dexport,
No, I cannot say I raced much against Schiehallion. But I do have a soft spot for Sayer.
To me, I associate John Sayer yachts as tough, seagoing boats that eat miles. There's not much I don't like ; fast, stiff, tough, fast. Head room. Open transom, tiller steer, better for short handed.
Bad points; Cripes...errr...think of something, open simple plan, barren'?sque when compared to bendytoy. If it's composite, ie: unlike a cedar core, it can be noisy below. The 12.50 is like an amplifier, you here every. little. sound.
45% B/D? Wow. It must be the low weight (4700kg). It's only a 2.1 mtr draft with an apparently modest bulb.

I reckon she would have excellent sea manners.

Thread hijack...B/D doesn't tell you how tender a yacht is, does it? IIRC, you can have the ballast at the top of the keel or deep on a bulb and your B/D doesn't change. Her AVS diagram would be interesting to see (beam, hull shape), but knowing Sayer it would be impressive.
I'm pretty sure John's father also designed, but more ferro cruisers? I'm unsure what they're like, but Schiehallion, it looks like a nice boat at a ****teenth of its value.

She seems quite wide regards stability. I don't think I've ever seen a yacht doing max speed with full rags up..well, aside from us once, and that was a big mistake.
Cheers,
SB


Awesome observations Shaggy, much appreciated.
Yeah for sure, Ballast ratio is just a very general guide. But as a comparison, my last boat had 22% so I expect Schiehallion to be a fair bit stiffer! Also, in the ad it says 200kg in the bulb, that is missing a zero.
I spoke with Jon Sayer today and he gave some good info and background into this boat. He said the boat is not noisy, she can slam a bit into sea's but only when sailed too upright.
My offer was accepted today so I go for a survey and sea trials on thursday. Pretty excited as she's chalk and cheer to my last boat.
I'll be making a video about what goes on this Thursday and will post the link here.

scruzin
SA, 527 posts
22 Aug 2017 9:09PM
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Thanks for sharing. It would have taken some discipline to keep recording while dealing with everything. It certainly made for a great story though

shaggybaxter
QLD, 2587 posts
22 Aug 2017 11:34PM
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Congrats in advance Dexport! That looks on paper to be a great deal of boat for the money, I'm jealous!

Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
23 Aug 2017 12:59AM
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Hi Dexport

Great video and good to see you were able to do a temp fix

Found your problem though because a couple of minutes into the video you said you had eaten a couple of Bananas and having Bananas on the boat has probably caused your bad luck

Regards Don

Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
23 Aug 2017 12:59AM
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Dexport
303 posts
23 Aug 2017 7:18AM
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Donk107 said..
Hi Dexport

Great video and good to see you were able to do a temp fix

Found your problem though because a couple of minutes into the video you said you had eaten a couple of Bananas and having Bananas on the boat has probably caused your bad luck

Regards Don


Haha, lucky I didn't have a girl aboard as well then, as I would have lost the whole rig!

Dexport
303 posts
25 Aug 2017 12:23PM
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Well, I purchased the Sayer 37 today.
Survey and sea trials went well and I am very happy!

southace
SA, 4783 posts
25 Aug 2017 3:29PM
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Dexport said..
Well, I purchased the Sayer 37 today.
Survey and sea trials went well and I am very happy!


Congratulations on your new girl can't wait to see a utube video.



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