Looking for advice on what what would be an appropriate board for a newbie in the world of SUP foil surfing. I'm not interested in downwinding (yet) or flat water pop up, only the sup foiling that happens near shore.
Is a DW board suitable for a rookie in those conditions, or would it be better to get a more traditional wide sup board? Has anyone tried the more wing specific downwing boards like the amos sultang wing? How many liters above your weight are recommend? How about width and length?
I'm a very decent winger but **** prone foiler. No real experience in sup surfing. The goal is to have fun riding small swell when there's close to no wind.
These are nice a mate of mine has one , if you just want to to Sup surf get a dedicated board , stay away from the Wing / DW boards especially through the learning phase . Balancing in broken water and current makes life pretty hard on those boards . Plenty of bargains in the for sale section here on the breeze.
www.seabreeze.com.au/Classifieds/Foiling-SUP-Foilboards/~k5eyk/Fanatic-Skysup-6-1.aspx?_page=1&search=t03ywWW5dNOb2H75fxyvOw%3D%3D
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Looking for advice on what what would be an appropriate board for a newbie in the world of SUP foil surfing. I'm not interested in downwinding (yet) or flat water pop up, only the sup foiling that happens near shore.
Is a DW board suitable for a rookie in those conditions, or would it be better to get a more traditional wide sup board? Has anyone tried the more wing specific downwing boards like the amos sultang wing? How many liters above your weight are recommend? How about width and length?
I'm a very decent winger but **** prone foiler. No real experience in sup surfing. The goal is to have fun riding small swell when there's close to no wind.Select to expand quoteNicoDC said..
Looking for advice on what what would be an appropriate board for a newbie in the world of SUP foil surfing. I'm not interested in downwinding (yet) or flat water pop up, only the sup foiling that happens near shore.
Is a DW board suitable for a rookie in those conditions, or would it be better to get a more traditional wide sup board? Has anyone tried the more wing specific downwing boards like the amos sultang wing? How many liters above your weight are recommend? How about width and length?
I'm a very decent winger but **** prone foiler. No real experience in sup surfing. The goal is to have fun riding small swell when there's close to no wind.
If you are not interested in DW then no need to go as long as most of the DW boards. Something like this is perfect for wave foiling www.oneoceansportsaustralia.com/shop/the-egg
They get up super easy they are light, super strong and feel nice and small when on foil.
Will still take a little adjustment since you have not really SUPed before but if you have ok balance then you will pick it up no worries.
Higher volume wing boards can work but usually are shorter so kinda suck to paddle around.
There are boards coming out that I would call "Hybrids" such as the AK Nomad range and the Naish DWD boards. These boards are a little shorter ie. 7'0 for a 115L and 23" wide AK Nomad. Harder to paddle up on flat than a 8'4 x 19, but can be done, decent dwd paddle ups and much nicer once up because they are more compact and catch waves much easier than a short wide board when surfing. They also cross over well as lightwind wing boards - keeps you afloat in the lulls and gets you going just that little bit easier.
Thanks all. These hybdrids like the ak and the one ocean look interesting. Adding the sultan phantom and takoon escape sw to that list.
A brand will send me a demo 7'6 dw board soon. Not sure why since I suck at the paddle thing. Going by your comments, it would be a bad idea to learn on such a board too.
It's a good excuses to shape a new board. Thinking of something like 6'9 x 24" for a 120l. What do you think would be a good amount of volume for a 90kg guy? This board could also be used for winging an maybe even dw at some point, so win win win.
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Thanks all. These hybdrids like the ak and the one ocean look interesting. Adding the sultan phantom and takoon escape sw to that list.
A brand will send me a demo 7'6 dw board soon. Not sure why since I suck at the paddle thing. Going by your comments, it would be a bad idea to learn on such a board too.
It's a good excuses to shape a new board. Thinking of something like 6'9 x 24" for a 120l. What do you think would be a good amount of volume for a 90kg guy? This board could also be used for winging an maybe even dw at some point, so win win win.
Don't try and re invent the wheel , plenty of gear on the market to suit your size and ability. 6'9 x 24" for a 120l no no no.....
Select to expand quotePiros said..NicoDC said..
Thanks all. These hybdrids like the ak and the one ocean look interesting. Adding the sultan phantom and takoon escape sw to that list.
A brand will send me a demo 7'6 dw board soon. Not sure why since I suck at the paddle thing. Going by your comments, it would be a bad idea to learn on such a board too.
It's a good excuses to shape a new board. Thinking of something like 6'9 x 24" for a 120l. What do you think would be a good amount of volume for a 90kg guy? This board could also be used for winging an maybe even dw at some point, so win win win.
Don't try and re invent the wheel , plenty of gear on the market to suit your size and ability. 6'9 x 24" for a 120l no no no.....Select to expand quotepaul.j said..NicoDC said..
Looking for advice on what what would be an appropriate board for a newbie in the world of SUP foil surfing. I'm not interested in downwinding (yet) or flat water pop up, only the sup foiling that happens near shore.
Is a DW board suitable for a rookie in those conditions, or would it be better to get a more traditional wide sup board? Has anyone tried the more wing specific downwing boards like the amos sultang wing? How many liters above your weight are recommend? How about width and length?
I'm a very decent winger but **** prone foiler. No real experience in sup surfing. The goal is to have fun riding small swell when there's close to no wind.NicoDC said..
Looking for advice on what what would be an appropriate board for a newbie in the world of SUP foil surfing. I'm not interested in downwinding (yet) or flat water pop up, only the sup foiling that happens near shore.
Is a DW board suitable for a rookie in those conditions, or would it be better to get a more traditional wide sup board? Has anyone tried the more wing specific downwing boards like the amos sultang wing? How many liters above your weight are recommend? How about width and length?
I'm a very decent winger but **** prone foiler. No real experience in sup surfing. The goal is to have fun riding small swell when there's close to no wind.
If you are not interested in DW then no need to go as long as most of the DW boards. Something like this is perfect for wave foiling www.oneoceansportsaustralia.com/shop/the-egg
They get up super easy they are light, super strong and feel nice and small when on foil.
Will still take a little adjustment since you have not really SUPed before but if you have ok balance then you will pick it up no worries.
Higher volume wing boards can work but usually are shorter so kinda suck to paddle around.
I have one egg board ,great sup foil board,also great for downwind ??
Select to expand quotePiros said..NicoDC said..
Thanks all. These hybdrids like the ak and the one ocean look interesting. Adding the sultan phantom and takoon escape sw to that list.
A brand will send me a demo 7'6 dw board soon. Not sure why since I suck at the paddle thing. Going by your comments, it would be a bad idea to learn on such a board too.
It's a good excuses to shape a new board. Thinking of something like 6'9 x 24" for a 120l. What do you think would be a good amount of volume for a 90kg guy? This board could also be used for winging an maybe even dw at some point, so win win win.
Don't try and re invent the wheel , plenty of gear on the market to suit your size and ability. 6'9 x 24" for a 120l no no no.....
so basically it's going back to chunky and heavy boards? Sad. I'll stick to wings and a dw board then to get up in tiny swell.
I've been sup surf foiling for 5 years. I'm now on a 7'10x19.5x102L Kalama Barrcauda. Previous boards were Sunova aviators in the 6'4-6'8 range at similar volumes. I'm 85kg. Since getting the longer board i haven't looked at my short foil Sup again. It has stayed in the shed. I see very few negatives to the longer board if it is light, has good volume distribution and you can stand and paddle it comfortably. Catching small waves is super easy, drop a few foil sizes and basically have fun in tiny surf when no one else is out. Yes it is harder to travel with. Mine fits inside my car just. I wouldn't want to have to put it on the roof every session. Longer boards allow a lot more confidence if you want to paddle into over head surf on a sup. On my shorter foilsup I would always get pitched up on take off at some point every session. The longer board just glides smoothly down bigger waves and accelerates away with minimal paddle effort.
I am 93kg/58yo and think I am a reasonable paddler having been using SUP boards since about 2008. I started Foil SUP before I started winging a few years ago using a Starboard Hypernut 8' that I also used for windfoiling.
It's definitely a lot of fun and any days when we get small swell and no wind I am always fired up to catch a few foil waves.
I bought a Gong Zuma 6'9" specifically for SUP foil and it was much better than the Hypernut but of course the Hypernut would happily surf bigger faster stuff on the fins. I have since bought a 7'6"xl Gong Crusader which is 22" wide and its 'much' harder to use for Foil SUP. I am getting better on it but if the conditions are anything less than good it reduces the wave count compared to the Zuma. Although the Crusader can catch the wave much earlier due to its speed and glide. In comparison the Zuma paddles like a slug.
Both feel good when I am on the wave.
I think a lot depends on your location, we have small mostly short period swell and there is a river mouth and tidal lagoon with strong currents at the break. The SUP foil makes small waves fast and exciting every time.
For sure the Crusader is brilliant as a very light wind wing board and wing assisted DW so it earns its place in the rack.
The Zuma lets me relax a bit out on the break and sessions last a few hours not a few minutes so for me its worth having a bit of volume and width. There are hardly any other surfers up here though so I have no peer pressure to be on cool tiny kit :)
Select to expand quotePiros said..NicoDC said..
Thanks all. These hybdrids like the ak and the one ocean look interesting. Adding the sultan phantom and takoon escape sw to that list.
A brand will send me a demo 7'6 dw board soon. Not sure why since I suck at the paddle thing. Going by your comments, it would be a bad idea to learn on such a board too.
It's a good excuses to shape a new board. Thinking of something like 6'9 x 24" for a 120l. What do you think would be a good amount of volume for a 90kg guy? This board could also be used for winging an maybe even dw at some point, so win win win.
Don't try and re invent the wheel , plenty of gear on the market to suit your size and ability. 6'9 x 24" for a 120l no no no.....
For a fit person and not over 90kg, find a Jimmy Lewis 6'5" used or try a demo, old shape but super easy to sup foil. The big difference between a wide mid 6', and either a short wide board, or long narrow is the first can be sup paddled with ease, and the latter two you find yourself on your knees or paddling prone a lot. Then you get in position and brace with your paddle and just sup paddle to take off. So if you want to catch a ton of waves with minimal energy and are not an efficient pumper and expert paddler, I'd not waste my money on a DW shape or sub 6'er.
