Another one for you wingers about the volume and width; I'm very god strapless surfboard and kitefoil rider, with 7 yrs on windsurfing. I weigh 78kg and choosing the first wing board and I am wondering would I loose lowend (significantly) if I choose an 85litre board (4'10x71cm) versus 110litre board of 5'10x71cm, and both setups would have 6m wing and big front wing, please? With kitefoilboard, the shorter the board means less swing weight and more agility, which I'd assume would be the same with wingboards?
Would have to say yes based on those dimensions , if you went to a 85 ltr board with the same planing area ( bottom surface area ) you might not lose any low end , but losing 1 ft of planing area means you're going to be pushing more water to get up an go.
You will go from a standing start to a kneeling start . Ok in calm waters very tough offshore but that's the way it's all going , over sized prone boards but to answer your question yes definitely harder to start . I think you'll also find a 6m a handful keeping it out of the water and sinking the nose at the start on such a small board.
Select to expand quoteomg said.. I'm very god strapless surfboard and kitefoil rider,
But remember he is a god 
so it should be no issue.
Select to expand quotehilly said..omg said.. I'm very god strapless surfboard and kitefoil rider,
But remember he is a god so it should be no issue.
His user name checks out
Select to expand quotehilly said..omg said.. I'm very god strapless surfboard and kitefoil rider,
But remember he is a god so it should be no issue.
god walks on water, right? why bother w/ a board or foil?
ouch, what a typo! :) Obviously meant good, not god, that was funny
My friend started on -40 liters with 5,3m2 and I'm taller than him, so figured that 6m wouldn't be such an issue, but still, it's a good point to take in to account if the board is close to my weight, esp. for starting out.
What a dilemma, I cannot/want to afford two boards, ie. the learning/LW board and then more fun, more agile board, but then again not willing to sacrify the low end too much when deciding on one board. Missus would kill me, we are close to that already!
Hey OMG. Just going through the learning process too and coming from a solid kite/surf background myself. I have around 10 sessions under my belt. You are on the right track with a big front wing. But I reckon your gonna be overgunned with the 6M wing. That's a big wing, especially for your weight. Maybe 5M would be better?
regarding the board. I think it's easy to have high expectations about your ability (speaking from experience ??) I would err on a bigger board. Is there something around 100L you can get? Honestly it will make your life easier when doing kneeling starts, especially in chop. 85L will be hard work for learning on. The difference between 85 and 100 will be negligible when up on foil.
Really advise you to demo some kit as that will give you a good feel for what works for your weight and local conditions.
PS. Just re-read your post. 5'10" @110L is plenty small enough. That will be a fun size and easyish. Also enough volume to float you if the wind dies and your left bobbing around. This happens a lot when learning (again speaking from experience).
Strapless kite foiler......definitely the smaller board. You will be a winging god. Kite foilers have it the easiest, moving into this sport. No joke.
'The smaller board will fly earlier (with skill) .....which you will have within a week of winging. You will not be falling a lot, like others. You will bust out perfect jibes and ride toe side on DAY ONE.
I rode a 5'x25"x73L Sunova today. Wind around 10-12knots.
flat fresh water. Axis 101 and 5.3m Naish.
Easy to knee start and get to feet in the gusts. Once on foil you never come down. Small boards are super agile to pump and turn. I weigh 86kg on a good day. I'm going to sub 80litres, but have a backup bigger SUP.
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Hey OMG. Just going through the learning process too and coming from a solid kite/surf background myself. I have around 10 sessions under my belt. You are on the right track with a big front wing. But I reckon your gonna be overgunned with the 6M wing. That's a big wing, especially for your weight. Maybe 5M would be better?
regarding the board. I think it's easy to have high expectations about your ability (speaking from experience ??) I would err on a bigger board. Is there something around 100L you can get? Honestly it will make your life easier when doing kneeling starts, especially in chop. 85L will be hard work for learning on. The difference between 85 and 100 will be negligible when up on foil.
Really advise you to demo some kit as that will give you a good feel for what works for your weight and local conditions.
Good advice! I've had to learn a little humility going from wind foiling to wing foiling (still love wind foiling).
Ordinarily I'd say get the bigger board, but with your resume I reckon you'd get away with the smaller one.
The initial learning curve will be a bit longer and trickier, but nothing you can't get through with a bit of persistence.
You'll definitely appreciate the shorter length once up, especially as a strapless kitefoiler.
I also think 5m is a better learning size, unless you're in a low wind location.I started off on a 104l 5'5" and now I'm riding about 83l, 4'3", I'm around 76kg.
I still haven't figured out if I've lost low end, but I am inclined to ride the bigger board if it's marginal.
I'm 65kgs, 35yrs old and learned on a 5'10" 104 ltr (+40L) board. Have since moved to a 5'1" 74 ltr (+10L) and I haven't touched my bigger board since. Even in my last session that was 0-15 mph side offshore gusty. Check my vid here for a sense of the session.
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What wings were you running on the foil
If you are asking me, I was on my 2400 and 5m. Maybe for the last time, as my 1850 just arrived! 
BRM 6M on the way too!
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I'm 65kgs, 35yrs old and learned on a 5'10" 104 ltr (+40L) board. Have since moved to a 5'1" 74 ltr (+10L) and I haven't touched my bigger board since. Even in my last session that was 0-15 mph side offshore gusty. Check my vid here for a sense of the session.
Coming from a prone foil background with some SUP experience and no wind experience, I easily would go back in time to save some coin and skip the sup. I keep telling myself I have a sup backup, but haven't touched it in months....I just prone my wing board when it's tiny.
Also, regarding getting back to shore when the wind drops, it's easier for me on my wing board as it's narrower and easier to paddle comfortably.
Nice vid
Select to expand quoteMidAtlanticFoil said..kobo said..
What wings were you running on the foil
If you are asking me, I was on my 2400 and 5m. Maybe for the last time, as my 1850 just arrived!
BRM 6M on the way too!
Thanks MidAtlanticFoil , let us know what you think of the 1850
