Took a break from my usual foil surfing & Wingding.
Decided to take out my 8ft10" Sunova Creek.
Found my local surf was overhead & nice forming waves.
A bit hesitant at first due to my body balance being so used to foiling but after a half hour I got into it. Especially when everyone, 3 short boarders & another SUP mate left for home leaving me not having to dodge anyone.??
The Creek was awesome! I had to make sure to step back more towards the tail because I have the bad habit of surfing more mid board than back. Once I nailed this into my head It was on! Took some nice drops & out ran the close outs to hit the lip & take the drops again.
I just love hanging on the lip as long as possible before dropping down.
Also was amazed how I could spin a very fast 180 degree turn off the wave at the shore break with back foot on tail pad.
I was told by a few foilers that getting back on a SUP will be slow & boring. How wrong they are! I had quite a few, Hang on for Dear Life! moments!????
So not selling my SUPs! A change is as good as a holiday.??
I love my O'neal gloves. But they need reinforcing around the thumb & finger that grips the paddle. Showing signs of wear just after about 4 sessions. I have glued strips of neoprene around these areas. Covered with bandaids to hold in place. The bandaids should drop off soon.??
of course sea juice ....SUP surfing is cool 
,put a smaller rear on that 8,10 creek and discovery another world of creek looseness ,
i had the pleasure of using one for 10 days in the Maldives ,I liked it 
welcome back to fins .
Select to expand quoteSeajuice said..
I was told by a few foilers that getting back on a SUP will be slow & boring.
Perhaps on SUP barges, but good SUP boards (with good fins) are still insanely fun!
Thanks guys.
The Creek is about the largest of my boards. Wasn't really going to change the fins for more looseness as I was using it for bigger waves.
I still have my 8ft 3" x 29 wide 110 litres Sunova Soul which has a smaller rear fin. I still love it for all waves. It also seems to have better glide through fatter or flat sections if standing more towards the nose.
But anyway I will check my fin collection & try some changes. Should be fun.
And am interested in a set of Quobbas but not sure what sizes would suit the Creek & Soul?
Select to expand quoteSeajuice said..
And am interested in a set of Quobbas but not sure what sizes would suit the Creek & Soul?
L fronts and medium rear is the best bet if you weight 85kg+ or like a solid grip.
Otherwise a M set.
I used a M set at 100kg for 1 year before the L were available, was quite doable: a bit less grip, but more speed.
A full L set may be best if you are used to a lot of grip (e.g. you are using a 7" center + sidebites)
Do not hesitate to contact them, they will happily fulfill any custom order.
Select to expand quoteSeajuice said..
Took a break from my usual foil surfing & Wingding.
Decided to take out my 8ft10" Sunova Creek.
Found my local surf was overhead & nice forming waves.
A bit hesitant at first due to my body balance being so used to foiling but after a half hour I got into it. Especially when everyone, 3 short boarders & another SUP mate left for home leaving me not having to dodge anyone.??
The Creek was awesome! I had to make sure to step back more towards the tail because I have the bad habit of surfing more mid board than back. Once I nailed this into my head It was on! Took some nice drops & out ran the close outs to hit the lip & take the drops again.
I just love hanging on the lip as long as possible before dropping down.
Also was amazed how I could spin a very fast 180 degree turn off the wave at the shore break with back foot on tail pad.
I was told by a few foilers that getting back on a SUP will be slow & boring. How wrong they are! I had quite a few, Hang on for Dear Life! moments!????
So not selling my SUPs! A change is as good as a holiday.??
I love my O'neal gloves. But they need reinforcing around the thumb & finger that grips the paddle. Showing signs of wear just after about 4 sessions. I have glued strips of neoprene around these areas. Covered with bandaids to hold in place. The bandaids should drop off soon.??
Welcome back to water level SeaJ!
Ahhhh, does my heart good to hear tales of a foiler returning to SUP surfing and loving it!
Flying seems like it would be fun indeed, but surfing has been my life blood since 1964 and there is never a time it was boring or anything less than spectacular!
Stoked that you are pushing your limits on the Creek... I agree with Tardy and colas on the fins.
I haven't used anything but a smallish center for a few years.... especially on the Creek and Soul.
I have some Quobba Two Tabs coming just in time for the next Hurricane swell, and am super stoked to run the Mixed Carbon Glass Set on my 9'4 Creek.
The only Quobba's I have now are single Tab (Futures box)
The Quobba's have changed EVERY (Futures) board I own for the better.
So much so that I won't even ride my FCS box boards until I get the two tab Quobba's.
So yeah.... medium center and large sides for the Creek should do the trick. (even the Larges are not all that big)
I am interested to see how the interact with the channels.
the Mixed Carbon Glass Quobba's on my 9'6 Kanga (large sides, medium center)
Thanks again guys for your feedback. Looks like I will start with the Large sides & medium rear quobbas. Then later may get the mediums all round for the fun of it.
And from now on I have to get my future surfing timetable set up. When surf is up, it's SUP. When surf is just mainly rolling & waves are just capping, it's foiling. When windy its Wingding.
But I gotta say. I so much like the grab & go of SUP surfing. No time wasted in setting up & packing up.
Cheers.??
Quobbas ordered! The black Large sides medium rear. (Mix set). Will be interesting.
Just a thought. How would the large quobba sides with small rear ordinary fin go?
Select to expand quoteSeajuice said..
Just a thought. How would the large quobba sides with small rear ordinary fin go?
As I said, once I discovered the Quobba, I never could use anything else :-)
I made smaller fins by cutting/sanding Quobbas rather than using normal fins...
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/SUP/SUP-Alternative-Fin-Setups?page=1
This said, I have seen people doing it, and it should work.
It is encouraging to hear that you could make the transition so easily. I tried foiling but struggled when I took my surf-sup out the next time. I did not try making the transition back and forth for long - I just gave up on foiling.
While on the topic, have people had the same challenge transitioning from wing ding to sup surfing, or is it just foil-sup-surfing that messes with your brain?
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It is encouraging to hear that you could make the transition so easily.
In my experience, it was very hard to transition back to SUPing while learning to foil.
So much so that I stopped SUP surfing.
However, once I could reliably foil (turn, manage my fly height, even some pumping on wave exit), after about 10-20 sessions, I had no more trouble switching between supports. Sometimes I even started a session foiling, and switched mid-session because the conditions changed.
Select to expand quotecolas said..Seajuice said..
Just a thought. How would the large quobba sides with small rear ordinary fin go?
As I said, once I discovered the Quobba, I never could use anything else :-)
I made smaller fins by cutting/sanding Quobbas rather than using normal fins...
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/SUP/SUP-Alternative-Fin-Setups?page=1
This said, I have seen people doing it, and it should work.
Thanks Colas. I'll soon find out after my fins arrive. Hopefully report my experience.
I still remember some of your posts on the subject of Quobbas. And your positive review.
Select to expand quotecantSUPenough said..
It is encouraging to hear that you could make the transition so easily. I tried foiling but struggled when I took my surf-sup out the next time. I did not try making the transition back and forth for long - I just gave up on foiling.
While on the topic, have people had the same challenge transitioning from wing ding to sup surfing, or is it just foil-sup-surfing that messes with your brain?
Where SUP foiling really improved my SUP surfing permanently was my stance. I now feel quite comfortable in a semi surf stance just standing waiting for a wave. Just before I catch a wave I can be in the surf stance & be paddling hard. Great for that late drop or being ready very early at the bottom turn. My front foot usually stays in place. My back foot is closer to the rail. But it goes central when starting to paddle for a wave. It feels more comfortable now to prepare for that approaching wave to catch.
Learning to SUP foil I new had to have my feet in the surf stance as best as I could before catching a wave. Otherwise the imbalance would throw me off instantly. And once up on foil it is quite difficult to rectify a bad stance.
But my new stance did come with some pain around my hip & places in my legs that I endured for over a year. Every session I made sure & forced my self to do it. But no pain now. And glad I did it.
When I first get onto my SUP it feels quite unstable for around the first 20 minutes at the most. And I'm cautious on the first few waves. But after that, it all clicks into place. Wave riding doesn't make me think I am foiling & my usual SUP surfing memory takes over.
Yes. I must say the Quobba fins work!
I went out two days in a row. Head high waves with some power & volume.
No difference in paddle speed & catching waves are the same.
I think the speed increases when half way down the wall on a drop. But cannot be totally sure.
But after the bottom turn & down the line the Creek felt slippery forward. That is I even fell off backwards whilst riding a few times. I hardly ever do this??
The Creek held tight in turns also. Which is what I want in bigger waves.
But don't expect more glide at slow speeds. This was still the same as my basic Sunova fins.
Because the speed is faster I found I had travelled too far forward away from the pocket of the wave which had me waiting for the wave to catch up where I should have done a cutback much earlier than expected to keep in the power zone.
So basically to sum it up. The Quobbas are going to need me to turn quicker unless I need to speed down the line to avoid a close out.
Looking forward for more comparisons.
But in my view. These fins are good for the Creek. A touch more higher speed. Good hold.
