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Are the big boards making a come back

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Created by laceys lane > 9 months ago, 31 Jan 2015
laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
31 Jan 2015 9:27PM
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i seem to be seeing a lot more longer boards ie sic bullets on fb and I know a goldie shop that sells sic have been selling quite a few.


have paddlers had enough of pretzel narrow rockerless boards for dw ing




or what , why



and are any of the other brands going to come to the party


excluding the 17'4 ace which I know nothing about other then it has no rudder

gregc
VIC, 1299 posts
31 Jan 2015 10:34PM
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Mate of mine has been on a DC 17 for a good while now, he loves it but he doesn't DW it. I am waiting for him to move on from that board and I will buy it :)

Towny
NSW, 903 posts
31 Jan 2015 10:43PM
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For the average Joe a ruddered board with rocker makes life easy

AndyR
QLD, 1344 posts
31 Jan 2015 9:57PM
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Never understood the 12"6 by 24 wide board thing.

gregc
VIC, 1299 posts
31 Jan 2015 11:12PM
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Good if you weigh like 40kg

DavidJohn
VIC, 17490 posts
1 Feb 2015 9:47AM
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laceys lane said..


Are the big boards making a come back





Starboard must think so..

WINDSURFnSNOW
NSW, 1612 posts
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1 Feb 2015 8:01PM
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If you ask me big boards like the Bullet are fast, stable, fun and easy. If you can take the time to remember to relax on them and focus on timing they will do the work for you but frantic paddling will exhaust you fast as they are big, heavy boards.

In most conditions over 12 knots or so in the ocean I've found they are faster the best race 14's with a much higher top end speed on bumps as they extend and open up. Once you got that speed and acceleration, linking become easier that you'd think and that's when you come in talking of best ever's.

The Ace GT is one I can't wait to paddle. Much more stable than it's 14' counterpart and the talk from people who know is that it gets on bumps easier like the 14' Ace but doesn't need as much wind and bumps as the Big Bullet. Won't have the top end legs of the Bullet but will almost certainly leave the Bullet in the marginal, fickle stuff. Time will tell on that one for me but it's good to have options.

Why more people aren't paddling them is sad. For all but the young elite who need to race 12'6" and 14's these bigger boards will make your ocean time more fun and you'll finish runs closer to the elite which just makes sense.

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
1 Feb 2015 7:59PM
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WINDSURFnSNOW said..
If you ask me big boards like the Bullet are fast, stable, fun and easy. If you can take the time to remember to relax on them and focus on timing they will do the work for you but frantic paddling will exhaust you fast as they are big, heavy boards.

In most conditions over 12 knots or so in the ocean I've found they are faster the best race 14's with a much higher top end speed on bumps as they extend and open up. Once you got that speed and acceleration, linking become easier that you'd think and that's when you come in talking of best ever's.

The Ace GT is one I can't wait to paddle. Much more stable than it's 14' counterpart and the talk from people who know is that it gets on bumps easier like the 14' Ace but doesn't need as much wind and bumps as the Big Bullet. Won't have the top end legs of the Bullet but will almost certainly leave the Bullet in the marginal, fickle stuff. Time will tell on that one for me but it's good to have options.

Why more people aren't paddling them is sad. For all but the young elite who need to race 12'6" and 14's these bigger boards will make your ocean time more fun and you'll finish runs closer to the elite which just makes sense.



yep, I agree. the trick with the bullets is to make them work for you.

and they will.

always a fun board to use. nothing much better than standing on the tail and motoring links together

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
1 Feb 2015 9:09PM
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Too many people have fallen for the great stand up paddle swindle that the fastest board is necessarily the most fun. Eventually they will all come to their senses and realise that downwinding and racing go together like spicy food and haemorrhoids. One may lead to the other but it isn't as enjoyable.

Nozza
VIC, 2864 posts
1 Feb 2015 11:04PM
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laceys lane said..

i seem to be seeing a lot more longer boards ie sic bullets on fb and I know a goldie shop that sells sic have been selling quite a few.
have paddlers had enough of pretzel narrow rockerless boards for dw ing
or what , why
and are any of the other brands going to come to the party
excluding the 17'4 ace which I know nothing about other then it has no rudder


SHHH Lacey, don't tell them.
I have 3 boards (OK I have seven, but for the purposes of the argument and as far as the wife knows, 3 will do)
12'6" X 30", 14' X 29", 17' X 26.75"
The longest is the narrowest, nicest to paddle, and the most stable.
But don't tell anyone else.
Image has gone in to the quote again so pretend it's below this.


hilly
WA, 7415 posts
1 Feb 2015 9:09PM
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PTWoody said..
Too many people have fallen for the great stand up paddle swindle that the fastest board is necessarily the most fun. Eventually they will all come to their senses and realise that downwinding and racing go together like spicy food and haemorrhoids. One may lead to the other but it isn't as enjoyable.


Totally agree

Wezzy
WA, 221 posts
2 Feb 2015 4:33PM
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laceys lane said..
i seem to be seeing a lot more longer boards ie sic bullets on fb and I know a goldie shop that sells sic have been selling quite a few.


have paddlers had enough of pretzel narrow rockerless boards for dw ing




or what , why



and are any of the other brands going to come to the party


excluding the 17'4 ace which I know nothing about other then it has no rudder


Yep!! At 6ft and 90+ kg's I had had enough of trying to find a 14ft that I enjoyed down winding, until I had one ride on the Sic Bullet!!!
The next week I did the Doctor on it and had my best run yet, even with no training under the belt at all.
The fun and froth has returned and isn't that what it is all ultimately about??
I remember Galvo telling me years ago that for bigger crew, 17 was the only way to go!!! Galvo the prophet!!

Pando71
NSW, 137 posts
2 Feb 2015 9:08PM
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Just come in from a DW run, three of us have the 17'4 sic and one on a 14' sic. Too much fun, runners runners galore, board does the work for you. My mate on 14' is with a doubt a quicker and fitter paddler, but the 17'4 just pulls away. Great boards, love em!

WINDSURFnSNOW
NSW, 1612 posts
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2 Feb 2015 9:23PM
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This topic got me reminiscing about Bullet's, Maui and the footage of Connor towards the end of the Maui 2 Molokai race.

Enjoy!!

magillamelb
VIC, 627 posts
2 Feb 2015 10:45PM
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16' x 30" Downwind Special for ELFB's, coming to a Melbourne downwind track soon...






crazybula
NSW, 99 posts
3 Feb 2015 8:39AM
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Pando71 said..
Just come in from a DW run, three of us have the 17'4 sic and one on a 14' sic. Too much fun, runners runners galore, board does the work for you. My mate on 14' is with a doubt a quicker and fitter paddler, but the 17'4 just pulls away. Great boards, love em!




It was fun yesterday...

Three big dogs and the puppy...


Helmy
VIC, 796 posts
3 Feb 2015 9:46AM
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Nozza said..





laceys lane said..

i seem to be seeing a lot more longer boards ie sic bullets on fb and I know a goldie shop that sells sic have been selling quite a few.
have paddlers had enough of pretzel narrow rockerless boards for dw ing
or what , why
and are any of the other brands going to come to the party
excluding the 17'4 ace which I know nothing about other then it has no rudder



SHHH Lacey, don't tell them.
I have 3 boards (OK I have seven, but for the purposes of the argument and as far as the wife knows, 3 will do)
12'6" X 30", 14' X 29", 17' X 26.75"
The longest is the narrowest, nicest to paddle, and the most stable.
But don't tell anyone else.
Image has gone in to the quote again so pretend it's below this.




Tell them the whole story Noz -
You haven't been on your 14 since you bought your first 17.
And you have 2 Naish 17' Glides now!

Helmy
VIC, 796 posts
3 Feb 2015 9:48AM
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Nozza said..





laceys lane said..

i seem to be seeing a lot more longer boards ie sic bullets on fb and I know a goldie shop that sells sic have been selling quite a few.
have paddlers had enough of pretzel narrow rockerless boards for dw ing
or what , why
and are any of the other brands going to come to the party
excluding the 17'4 ace which I know nothing about other then it has no rudder



SHHH Lacey, don't tell them.
I have 3 boards (OK I have seven, but for the purposes of the argument and as far as the wife knows, 3 will do)
12'6" X 30", 14' X 29", 17' X 26.75"
The longest is the narrowest, nicest to paddle, and the most stable.
But don't tell anyone else.
Image has gone in to the quote again so pretend it's below this.




Tell them the whole story Noz -
You haven't been on your 14 since you bought your first 17.
And you have 2 Naish 17' Glides now!

Kieranr
NSW, 526 posts
3 Feb 2015 3:18PM
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Unlimiteds Rock. :)
Sooooo much fun. :)

Maxeeboy
WA, 335 posts
3 Feb 2015 6:05PM
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Thanks for the Connor footage, he rocks!!
What a work ethic & family support team.

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
6 Feb 2015 5:48PM
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Borrowed my mates bullet. Ah nothing beats that feeling

chucktheskiffie
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26 Aug 2015 10:53AM
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crazybula said..

Pando71 said..
Just come in from a DW run, three of us have the 17'4 sic and one on a 14' sic. Too much fun, runners runners galore, board does the work for you. My mate on 14' is with a doubt a quicker and fitter paddler, but the 17'4 just pulls away. Great boards, love em!





It was fun yesterday...

Three big dogs and the puppy...




Are you guys DW'ing those in the lake? or going outside from there? ( i assume thats the carpark at the lake entrance, right?)

dtm
NSW, 1610 posts
26 Aug 2015 1:52PM
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I borrowed a bullet once from my experience and view point it was a great board but just too big for me , 70 kilos dripping wet ATM , but yeah the wind was really good a I did a quick short down winder and I'm pretty sure I got one of the longest runs I've ever had to date but getting out at the end was a friggin night mare and getting the board all alone up onto the roof racks was even harder in the wind
so for me I would never be able to use one the storage issues at home and the pure size of the board is most likely the reason you don't see too many off them around , I felt and most likely looked like a kook failing around carrying that board about that day

Casso
NSW, 3768 posts
26 Aug 2015 4:32PM
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dtm said...
I felt and most likely looked like a kook failing around carrying that board about that day

Not just "that day"!

Todzilla
189 posts
26 Aug 2015 3:33PM
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I for one seriously hope that Unlimited's make a bit of a resurgence, because when your my height/weight etc they're basically a 14ft-er!!!

Levels the playing field a bit…!

NNSUP
NSW, 1263 posts
26 Aug 2015 5:51PM
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Casso said..


dtm said...
I felt and most likely looked like a kook failing around carrying that board about that day



Not just "that day"!



Nasty Casso. Went through my mind though.


Seems to be more unlimiteds on the water all the time.
The NSW Downwind series or at least the Sydney component of it this year won't have a 14 foot category - just Unlimited....anything will go.

bradsdubs
QLD, 161 posts
26 Aug 2015 7:48PM
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The design philosophy of SIC's Mark Raaphorst is what got me onto a SIC 14 Bullet in the first place, and that is that "you're faster if you stay on your board". Hence they never did 24' wide boards.

tightlines
WA, 3486 posts
26 Aug 2015 7:58PM
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WINDSURFnSNOW said..
Stuff....then
Why more people aren't paddling them is sad. For all but the young elite who need to race 12'6" and 14's these bigger boards will make your ocean time more fun and you'll finish runs closer to the elite which just makes sense.



There is also the old blokes that are competing in the age categories races that are limited to 14'ers.
I must admit though that it is very tempting to forget about O40's O50's or whatever and just have some fun.
Especially for something like the Doctor.

surf4fun
WA, 1313 posts
26 Aug 2015 8:14PM
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Every day you are one step closer to pulling the trigger Kent......

Nozza
VIC, 2864 posts
26 Aug 2015 10:52PM
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Tell them the whole story Noz -
You haven't been on your 14 since you bought your first 17.
And you have 2 Naish 17' Glides now!



Interesting to see this one resurface.
As well as unlimited downwind boards, there are other unlimiteds.
17'6" JM Flatwater board has come on the scene, I'm obsessed.
24" wide, brilliant to paddle, effortless glide, challenging balance wise, but that's not a bad thing.
Want to paddle it rather than the others if conditions allow.
So my current daily quiver is 17'4" SIC if it's rough, 17'6" JM if it's flat. 17' Naish swaps for Bullet on a whim.
12'6" Bullet comes out infrequently, loads of fun.
No room for a 14'
Pictures in the quote, can't control.
Roof top quiver.
Helmy on the JM

tightlines
WA, 3486 posts
26 Aug 2015 9:27PM
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surf4fun said..
Every day you are one step closer to pulling the trigger Kent......


Maybe....but as tempted as I am I don't think it will happen yet.

Unless I decide to head to Hawaii next year in which case I would need to get some practice in steering and handling an UL during the summer.



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