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Created by scotty100 > 9 months ago, 21 May 2012
scotty100
QLD, 233 posts
21 May 2012 11:16AM
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help required with the onset of winter and stuff all light at 5am need to mix up my training with a gym workout. Does anyone have a good workout program or can refer me to where i can find one please. after strenght and circuit styles if possible

RJK
QLD, 622 posts
21 May 2012 12:57PM
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www.crossfitnoosa.com.au/

Adapt
QLD, 723 posts
21 May 2012 1:39PM
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Go see your local paddle coach (surf club, outrigger, ski club) and ask them or find yourself a good gym where they can guide you through a tailored program. All else fails their plenty on youtube and on the internet to help. Personal preference, body weight exercises or lighter weights allowing high reps, but most importantly consistancy, something I don't do as often as I would like

akhawk
WA, 1085 posts
21 May 2012 12:05PM
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I've been using the trx suspension system. It's under $200, provides full body workout, can make resistance as tough or as easily as you like, great for core, can be done at home indoors or out and really portable. Heaps of exercises on their site as well.

matt18
VIC, 534 posts
21 May 2012 2:07PM
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scotty100 said...

help required with the onset of winter and stuff all light at 5am need to mix up my training with a gym workout. Does anyone have a good workout program or can refer me to where i can find one please. after strenght and circuit styles if possible


i wish i lived in queensland for winter, a nice 3degrees in vic today.

RJK
QLD, 622 posts
21 May 2012 2:16PM
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Paddling requires the use of your entire body. Muscle groups supported by other muscle groups, if you train one specific area the others will fail around it.

No one routine/ exercise / machine is best for improving your paddling.

RJK
QLD, 622 posts
21 May 2012 2:20PM
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And focus on improving power not strength, no point in being the strongest paddler out there if your still coming in last.

Power=strength/time

Gorgo
VIC, 5033 posts
21 May 2012 2:25PM
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My two cents. If you have to ask for a gym program then it probably won't work. If you're self motivated enough to go to a gym 3-4-5 days a week then you're motivated enough to discipline yourself to go for a run, do push-ups, sit-ups etc.

Really, the specific exercises you do are kind of irrelevant. The fact that you do the exercise at all is much more important.

The best system by a long way is to find an alternate sport that you like to do and can do in the off season. I cycle to work most days through winter. Slow on the way in (so I don't get hot and have to shower) fast out then finish off with push-ups, crunches, maybe some dumb bell exercises and a bit of a stretch.

If you want a really good exercise program that will give you guaranteed SUP time in the season as well as heaps of sex (reps are weekly):
- 3 x vacuum the house (bonus points for two story house)
- 2 x wash, dry, fold and put away washing
- 5 x reps sweep garden paths
- 1 x alternate weeks mow the lawn.
- 1 x alternate weeks weed the garden the lawn.
- 5 x service the missus

akhawk
WA, 1085 posts
21 May 2012 12:58PM
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RJK said...

And focus on improving power not strength, no point in being the strongest paddler out there if your still coming in last.

Power=strength/time




Hi rjk, what's the difference between power and strength? Are they not the same thing?

RJK
QLD, 622 posts
21 May 2012 3:25PM
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akhawk said...

RJK said...

And focus on improving power not strength, no point in being the strongest paddler out there if your still coming in last.

Power=strength/time




Hi rjk, what's the difference between power and strength? Are they not the same thing?


Say I can press 50kg but inch it up bit by bit. I guess that's what people refer to a strength, I would be powerful if I could get it above my head in one swift movement. I think that's it..

Units for power are joules/second. Joules are a measure of energy. Strength is just transferring chemical energy in your muscles to kinetics in physical weights, weight is easier for the gym junkies to comprehend than energy. And that way they can walk around puffing up their chests boasting about how much they can bicep curl!

akhawk
WA, 1085 posts
21 May 2012 1:29PM
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RJK said...

akhawk said...

RJK said...

And focus on improving power not strength, no point in being the strongest paddler out there if your still coming in last.

Power=strength/time




Hi rjk, what's the difference between power and strength? Are they not the same thing?


Say I can press 50kg but inch it up bit by bit. I guess that's what people refer to a strength, I would be powerful if I could get it above my head in one swift movement. I think that's it..

Units for power are joules/second. Joules are a measure of energy. Strength is just transferring chemical energy in your muscles to kinetics in physical weights, weight is easier for the gym junkies to comprehend than energy. And that way they can walk around puffing up their chests boasting about how much they can bicep curl!



Gottya, cheers!

Adapt
QLD, 723 posts
21 May 2012 3:53PM
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akhawk said...

RJK said...

akhawk said...

RJK said...

And focus on improving power not strength, no point in being the strongest paddler out there if your still coming in last.

Power=strength/time




Hi rjk, what's the difference between power and strength? Are they not the same thing?


Say I can press 50kg but inch it up bit by bit. I guess that's what people refer to a strength, I would be powerful if I could get it above my head in one swift movement. I think that's it..

Units for power are joules/second. Joules are a measure of energy. Strength is just transferring chemical energy in your muscles to kinetics in physical weights, weight is easier for the gym junkies to comprehend than energy. And that way they can walk around puffing up their chests boasting about how much they can bicep curl!



Gottya, cheers!


So basically strength is how much weight you can lift once (one rm) and power (explosive) is how much force you use to move a weight. That was my understanding. There are different types of strength the most important thing is to find out what types of strength and cardiovascular fitness you require for the particular type of activity you participate in and replicate that during your training sessions. Plus a few more little bells and whistles that add to the equation. All ways good to research cause the wrong type of training can be counter productive to your goals.

Greenroom
WA, 7608 posts
21 May 2012 4:05PM
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If you've got a door... you've got a gym

boylos
NSW, 769 posts
21 May 2012 6:33PM
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Get Laird Hamilton's book some solid circuit workouts and a great read

Boylos

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
21 May 2012 6:59PM
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Adapt said...

akhawk said...

RJK said...

akhawk said...

RJK said...

And focus on improving power not strength, no point in being the strongest paddler out there if your still coming in last.

Power=strength/time




Hi rjk, what's the difference between power and strength? Are they not the same thing?


Say I can press 50kg but inch it up bit by bit. I guess that's what people refer to a strength, I would be powerful if I could get it above my head in one swift movement. I think that's it..

Units for power are joules/second. Joules are a measure of energy. Strength is just transferring chemical energy in your muscles to kinetics in physical weights, weight is easier for the gym junkies to comprehend than energy. And that way they can walk around puffing up their chests boasting about how much they can bicep curl!



Gottya, cheers!


So basically strength is how much weight you can lift once (one rm) and power (explosive) is how much force you use to move a weight. That was my understanding. There are different types of strength the most important thing is to find out what types of strength and cardiovascular fitness you require for the particular type of activity you participate in and replicate that during your training sessions. Plus a few more little bells and whistles that add to the equation. All ways good to research cause the wrong type of training can be counter productive to your goals.

from memory you normally peak power wise 18 to 25 years old.

peak strenght around 35 to 40 ish.

after that it's all downhill


ps please don't say such and such still does this and that- i'm talking normal

Piros
QLD, 7046 posts
21 May 2012 7:21PM
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I've recently got back in the gym and was amazed at how weak my legs were . I thought they would be strong from all the Supping but the multiple hour sessions have actually over worked them. My trainer targeted my legs and in just a couple of weeks of torture they are heaps stronger and I have really noticed in my surfing , tons more power.

Don't agree with the age thing just work on the areas you are weak. I've been doing re-hab work after the shoulder dislocation , it was light rubber band stuff and it feels great now and avoided getting the chop. You don't need to smash weights for Supping , just controlled light reps targeting the area.

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
21 May 2012 7:49PM
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Piros said...

I've recently got back in the gym and was amazed at how weak my legs were . I thought they would be strong from all the Supping but the multiple hour sessions have actually over worked them. My trainer targeted my legs and in just a couple of weeks of torture they are heaps stronger and I have really noticed in my surfing , tons more power.

Don't agree with the age thing just work on the areas you are weak. I've been doing re-hab work after the shoulder dislocation , it was light rubber band stuff and it feels great now and avoided getting the chop. You don't need to smash weights for Supping , just controlled light reps targeting the area.


what your vert leap now

Piros
QLD, 7046 posts
21 May 2012 8:13PM
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Vert Leap... no mate just XOS bucket chucking .....LOL leave the air to the grommies.

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
21 May 2012 8:14PM
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Piros said...

Vert Leap... no mate just XOS bucket chucking .....LOL leave the air to the grommies.


n8wx
NSW, 253 posts
21 May 2012 10:24PM
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I've started doing a spin class which I enjoy followed by 15min kettlebell routines a few times a week.

I'm finding kettlebells to be an excellent way to train the whole body in minimal time & the variation of exercises are endless with just 1 piece of equipment.

I think KBs are a great way to train which complement SUP as they work the core, build endurance, strength, & balance just so versatile...

smicko
WA, 2503 posts
21 May 2012 8:57PM
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akhawk said...

I've been using the trx suspension system. It's under $200, provides full body workout, can make resistance as tough or as easily as you like, great for core, can be done at home indoors or out and really portable. Heaps of exercises on their site as well.




Indoors may be best mmmkay???

akhawk
WA, 1085 posts
21 May 2012 9:24PM
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smicko said...

akhawk said...

I've been using the trx suspension system. It's under $200, provides full body workout, can make resistance as tough or as easily as you like, great for core, can be done at home indoors or out and really portable. Heaps of exercises on their site as well.




Indoors may be best mmmkay???




Clownfeatures
SA, 205 posts
22 May 2012 8:05AM
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Kettle bells???

petedorries
QLD, 700 posts
22 May 2012 9:30AM
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Good to see someone mention kettle bells/balls.Probabaly the best routine to get into that will be of the most benifit to the SUP racer
plus
someone mentioned TRX suspension system. Anoher great avenue to explore.

akhawk
WA, 1085 posts
22 May 2012 7:43AM
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petedorries said...

Good to see someone mention kettle bells/balls.Probabaly the best routine to get into that will be of the most benifit to the SUP racer
plus
someone mentioned TRX suspension system. Anoher great avenue to explore.


Hi Pete, what kettlebell moves would you recommend for paddling? Mainly swings?

petedorries
QLD, 700 posts
22 May 2012 10:52AM
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Yes
The swing up/down
& side to side movements. Plenty of info out there on this. All movements and exercises on kettle balls god.

jilimbilo
VIC, 16 posts
22 May 2012 7:47PM
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CrossFit.

n8wx
NSW, 253 posts
22 May 2012 7:50PM
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This is a great article on KB training for surfing / SUPing... articlesbase.com/health/

n8wx
NSW, 253 posts
22 May 2012 9:26PM
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Found some great KB vids.

How good is WaterMan Fitness!!! Lost more on his page...

















kiakaha
QLD, 472 posts
23 May 2012 7:20AM
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RJK
QLD, 622 posts
23 May 2012 12:26PM
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Good stuff!!

And to think I struggle doing that clasping a kb



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