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Anyone using a freeride foil board with race sail and foil?

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Created by cris21 > 9 months ago, 18 Nov 2023
cris21
WA, 46 posts
18 Nov 2023 1:06AM
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Hi, anyone have any experience using a freeride foil board like a JP freefoil 130L (77) with a race foil like the IQ from starboard? trying to set up an iq set up and will be using that board with the iq foils and probably the sail too while i find the board.
thanks

thedoor
2398 posts
18 Nov 2023 1:43AM
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cris21 said..
Hi, anyone have any experience using a freeride foil board like a JP freefoil 130L (77) with a race foil like the IQ from starboard? trying to set up an iq set up and will be using that board with the iq foils and probably the sail too while i find the board.
thanks


I have been using my wizard 125 with a race-ish foil. Seems to work fine except the straps could be more outboard

www.instagram.com/p/CugMwxYABCr/

cris21
WA, 46 posts
18 Nov 2023 2:10AM
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looks great, what size sail is that?

Awalkspoiled
WA, 510 posts
18 Nov 2023 11:05AM
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I ride an Alien 155 with either a Taaroa freeride/freerace foil or the IQ FOIL setup. It balances fine with either and the respective 95cm fuselages but with the IQ and the 115+ fuse I need to slide the mastfoot all the way forward and it still doesn't really balance all that well. The IQ board has the mast track quite far forward relative to most any freefoil board.

thedoor
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18 Nov 2023 12:26PM
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cris21 said..
looks great, what size sail is that?


The hot sails is 6.5m

The point 7 is 7.2

len024
NSW, 130 posts
18 Nov 2023 7:35PM
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cris21 said..
Hi, anyone have any experience using a freeride foil board like a JP freefoil 130L (77) with a race foil like the IQ from starboard? trying to set up an iq set up and will be using that board with the iq foils and probably the sail too while i find the board.
thanks


im selling a iq youth board in australia by the way

shaneNZ
42 posts
1 Dec 2023 4:33PM
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I have starboard freeride 150 (85cm wide). I started out on axis foils, which I think are better made, but they don't cater to windsurf foiling and will never do a longer fuselage than 89cm. So I switched to starboard foils. I have the old black 115fuse, 900 front and original 255 rear. I have found the board great and it's the one bit of kit I am not constantly tempted to change. I use an HGO 8m and a 7m hg4. That's the only thing about the smaller board, is the full 9m sail is too much. But I still getting going in the same light winds as the whole iq race crew (which is everyone where I live in NZ. I prefer the smaller/lighter/faster setup plus the board will actually fit in my car! I had a massive ifoil 100 in starlite, you couldn't pay me to back to the behemoth. My top speed to date is 24kts, and I average about 18kn hard upwind. So pretty happy with that. Once you go to the higher aspect race foils it's pretty hard to go back. Even trying my axis setup (ART999) which was no slouch, felt like riding with the handbrake on. I figure the newer slalom foil boards are basically closer to my board, so there can't be too much wrong with it. I just want simple, easy and fun - but still fast! Hope that is of some help/interest.

inalambrik
3 posts
29 Dec 2023 8:49PM
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I have been using a JP Hydrofoil PRO with a Starboard RACE PRO Foil and a Severne HGO 9m for 3 years. That combination works very well.

segler
WA, 1630 posts
30 Dec 2023 12:54AM
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Back to the OP's question. As always, you have to pay attention to the position of the front wing with respect to the footstraps and/or sail mast base. Most race foils have a lot more fuselage distance between the foil mast and the front wing. So, on a freeride board (designed for a shorter distance on a freeride foil) you have to move the footstraps and/or sail mast base further forward to balance it. (Another way to balance it is to put a great big heavy race sail onto it. It's all about sail mast base pressure, as usual in this sport.)

What I see hereabouts (USA Pacific NW) are windfoilers using old-style slalom boards and old formula boards with race foils. Those boards have the deep tuttle fin box further aft. This compensates for the more forward front wing, and they end up balanced.

If you buy a custom Roberts freeride board designed for a race foil, you will notice that he has placed the finbox way back there. I have a Roberts GT32 with a Moses/SAB race foil. It balances because the finbox is completely at the stern. Before I got the Roberts I had to stand forward of the footstraps to get balance. With this Roberts I cannot use a freeride foil. The wing is too far aft and it does not lift.

Again, it still is, and always has been, all about positioning the front wing somewhere between your feet. That's the definition of "balance."



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