Now using foil on 2009 RRD X-Fire 122L and as a 'winged keel' on 1990s Speed 250L race board.
I just needed to figure out how to use a 2017 foil designed for a deep Tuttle box on a 2009 board with a standard (shallow) Tuttle box that wasn't designed to take the load of a foil.
The solution* (*you can just buy a board with deep Tuttle box and get foiling) is to redistribute the load away from the standard Tuttle box and create a load-bearing 'sandwich' - to spread the load between the top (deck) and bottom of the board.
This should work for all foils with a flange - such as Starboard GT, Slingshot & Fanatic. It's a new option for people with older boards still in great condition and perfect for foiling, but limited by having a standard Tuttle box.
Note: It won't work on foils without a flange - such as Neil Pryde Alu Flight or Starboard racing foils.
This 'sandwich' method also works well with longboards with open centreboard boxes such as the 25-30 year old Speed 250L race board from the 1990s. You just need 150mm long M6 bolts.
For those looking for a more straightforward approach, Zeeko among others offers a regular tuttle compatible adapter.
zeeko-kites.com/gb/kitefoil-series/351-tuttle-deep-tuttle-adaptater-foil.html
Kudos for the effort, Zoltan! I'll be the first to confess having taken the less straightforward approach a few times.
Thanks Paducah,
thats great to hear - and maybe the best thing to come out of this whole forum thing is more people will be aware they can buy the deep Tuttle to Tuttle adapter from Zeeko and others, in which case I'll think I've done my job and will move on. I've been windsurfing 30+ years and never heard of or saw Zeeko before - but then I never had a reason to until now. I'll definitely check them out.
Thanks again!
z
Zoltan, Thanks, that's very kind of you. I don't own a zeeko but they seem well regarded. As I mentioned, I think a few brands have something for regular tuttle. Hopefully, others with more knowledge will chime in.
But you have to tell us what a foil on a longboard is like.
OK. How does it feel?
Simply beautiful.
Super stable.
Super smooth.
The faster you go, the more stable it gets. If it gets too scary, I'll just drop down a sail size or 2! My go-to sails are 8.5m up to 20 knots and 7.7m over 20 knots. I've yet to use smaller.
The best local foiler here uses 9.5m sail on Formula boards and flies rings around the rest of us at 50-75 cm up on his 105cm racing foil carbon mast. Also super smooth & beautiful to watch! He's been foiling for 2 seasons now and has everything under perfect control.
Theres now about bout a dozen regular windsurfing foilers in Canberra that I know of. Probably more who just go to the coast. Also some Canberta kite foilers, but they usually chase the more steady sea breezes and avoid the more gusty winds we get here on the lake.
thanks Zoltan - needed a pic of the FW 1.4 to update my list of BIC boards over time !!
joewindsurfer.blogspot.com/2017/07/bic-windsurf-boards.html
Foil adapter kit on 2009 RRD X-Fire with standard Tuttle box. Mon 7.1.19https://www.facebook.com/100004231339520/posts/1266493463501686/
Tues. 8.1.19 update: Foil switch from 2010 RRD X-Fire V2 122L (standard Tuttle box) to 1990s Speed 250L Race Board (Centreboard slot) demonstrating my new Foil Adapter Kit.
www.facebook.com/100004231339520/posts/1267199733431059/
waitin for the video in action on the raceboard
where did you get the top black plate ??
no comment on the grass - know others will cover that for me !!
while you are experimenting with this ...
i am experimenting with third person videoing on ice n snow
naturally the wind died when i filmed at the end of my session !!
but i am sailing into the sunset :-)
Got GoPro video on the Speed 250L RB + foil using 8.5m sail in a 20 knot easterly that was bloody awesome.
And just as evil boy King Joffrey in Game of Thrones named his newly forged Valarian steel sword "HEART EATER" - made from half the melted steel from the innocent yet executed Eddard Stark's noble sword; I'm re-naming my Speed RB "BOLT BREAKER" after it broke a second back bolt on the foil mast head. But this was no ordinary 80c bolt from Bunnings. This was a $14 High Tensile Steel bolt !!!
So, I'll edit down 2 hours of GoPro video and upload Friday night. Stay tuned.
Got GoPro video on the Speed 250L RB + foil using 8.5m sail in a 20 knot easterly that was bloody awesome.
And just as evil boy King Joffrey in Game of Thrones named his newly forged Valarian steel sword "HEART EATER" - made from half the melted steel from the innocent yet executed Eddard Stark's noble sword; I'm re-naming my Speed RB "BOLT BREAKER" after it broke a second back bolt on the foil mast head. But this was no ordinary 80c bolt from Bunnings. This was a $14 High Tensile Steel bolt !!!
So, I'll edit down 2 hours of GoPro video and upload Friday night. Stay tuned.
Sat 12.1.2019 New Videos:
1. Speed 250L Race Board + Foil - Passing yacht:
www.facebook.com/100004231339520/posts/1269479619869737/
2. Speed demo + short flight & touchdown
To be added.
* More to follow over time.w
Sat 12.1.2019 New Videos:
1. Speed 250L Race Board + Foil - Passing yacht:
www.facebook.com/100004231339520/posts/1269479619869737/
2. Short flight & touchdown at high speed on race board with foil:
www.facebook.com/100004231339520/posts/126954832986
3. Search & Destroy on Speed 250L race board with foil:
www.facebook.com/100004231339520/posts/1269682933182739/
hey CAN17
where on Lake SImcoe are you ??
spent my teenage years in Keswick/Sutton/Jackson's Point
and NO windsurfing - were on motor boats - crazy teens
now dream of windsurfin on water and ice there
ice was > 12 inches thick where fisherman was
in the middle of the river were snowmobile tracks
less than -20 degrees C this weekend
with westerlies and 10 cm snow on ground
ALL are telling me to stay home :-)
we will see ...
Georges used to windsurf and went to the dark side
in the winter, kiting on snow makes SO much more sense !!
Sat 12.1.2019 New Videos:
1. Speed 250L Race Board + Foil - Passing yacht:
www.facebook.com/100004231339520/posts/1269479619869737/
2. Short flight & touchdown at high speed on race board with foil: