Hi
I've been looking for a wave board which gets planning early in light on shore conditions and can also turn tight in side shore float&ride conditions (small-medium waves). It's difficult because both features coud be against each other. Looking for a compromise. Volume around 95 l, weight 70 kg. Best candidates so far:
- Tabou Pocket 2014-2017
- Fanatic freewave. I've tried one and it surfs well but not as a wave board
- Goya One
- RRD freewave from 2021
- Stb kode?
I have discarded fanatic stubby, mamba and tabou last pocket and da bomb because they are too short in my opinion for getting planning early in on shore conditions and float&ride. Colleagues who own them say they need to go very far downwind to get planning.
There are some boards like exocet xwave and fanatic triwave which get planning early but don't think turn tight easily for a light guy.
I prefer a us-box, although it's not mandatory. I want to be able to move the central fin. Only trifin. Maximum sail 5,7 m2.
Besides, many freewave boards change the wavesailing performance thoroughly from one year to another. On the other hand the impression of a heavy guy about a board can be completely different from a light guy.
Thanks.
I got to try a Quatro Power for the first time today. Cross onshore light wind conditions. I was very impressed. Was surprisingly good in the waves. But it's a powerbox so that sucks big time.
The starboard is pretty good and a bit bigger for its stated volume.
The custom 3 I think is a great recommendation. Just watch out varies from year to year, same for the one.
I'd add the JP freestyle wave.
How about the Patrik QT wave or if you wanted something like you said that planes early then they have the F-wave too, check out his website, theres a video. I've got the 113 QT, planes fairly early but not as quick as a freewave, their F-wave is really quick.
Maybe you saw my earlier topic similar to yours. I ended up getting the Goya one. Problem is it's a bit too wavy! The later versions are more freewave. A friend of mine has the custom 3 2020 in both 81 and 91. He uses bigger sails like 5.3-5.8 and he's about 76kg? Maybe one day I try it.
Anyway, I was given a tabou 3s (stubby version) and it's actually working quite well but 86 only. 96 and over it's really freeride oriented.
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Maybe you saw my earlier topic similar to yours. I ended up getting the Goya one. Problem is it's a bit too wavy! The later versions are more freewave. A friend of mine has the custom 3 2020 in both 81 and 91. He uses bigger sails like 5.3-5.8 and he's about 76kg? Maybe one day I try it.
Anyway, I was given a tabou 3s (stubby version) and it's actually working quite well but 86 only. 96 and over it's really freeride oriented.
Hi Manuel7
Which year were stbd kode and goya one you tried? Could you compare both in planning and surfing?
Starboard freewave I'd say something like 2014 on and goya one 2018+. The surfing abilities depends on the rider and volume. I thought the starboard was easy and the one may be sharper at least on the older models. Also the rental guys prefer the JP fsw over the Goya one, whatever that may mean! (Probably because it's faster)
I meant your opinion with your skill and comparing similar volumes. Which sizes of these two models you tested? Do you think your goya one is turny enough to be used as float&ride board for small-medium waves?
My fear is that, as I want a 95l board, many freewave boards are more freeride focused in the biggest volumes. I don't know if this is the case with goya one or stbd kode.
The Goya One 3 is a nice board and it will work for float and ride however the Quatro Power Pro is in my opinion the answer. Compared to the Quatro the Goya One 3 is much more freeride orientated. I've owned the One 3 (2022). I still own the Quatro Power Pro. The Power Pro has much more of a wave heritage (if that makes sense).
The Quatro has a powerbox but if you can live with that: look no further.
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How about the Patrik QT wave or if you wanted something like you said that planes early then they have the F-wave too, check out his website, theres a video. I've got the 113 QT, planes fairly early but not as quick as a freewave, their F-wave is really quick.
I was to recommand the Patrik F-wave as well. In 85L, I think its more than enough for 70kg.
I have the Patrik TWW 83, which is the predecessor of the F-wave. I use it intwin with a pair of MFC TF 16cm. I'm around 75kg. It floats A LOT, almost like my fanatic skate 100 2010. It glides very well off the plane and then planes very early with little power. It pops well for basic freestyle like vulcans.
It's pretty stiff on the wave,( especially with the fin all the way to the back of the box) but it is still much much better than the skate. Actually not that far from my pyramid 86 2016/17.
It 's pretty good for side off float n ride, way easier than the pyramid. It's not so good for powered up side to sideOn, where you want to turn tighter. But then the pyramid does the job very very well.
The 92 TWW or 95 F-wave, must be a very big board for someone below 80kg, to the point it's probably wingfoil weather want you want to reach for it...
Volume is great for bigger guys in no wind or paired with at least a bigger sail. Otherwise, it's a waste of weight and size which will hurt other aspects of sailing.
I hardly felt a difference between a 95fsw vs 85 in the same conditions with the same sail. Again confirmed with the Tabou 3S.
Now if you're using it with 5.7 the bigger board will perform better but not so much with 5.3/5.0 and down. What size waves?
Sometimes I just give up on planing and go for a pure wave board to enjoy riding because it's more connected, sharper, just more fun to ride a wave board then a few in the waves.
The 96 One at Vela is from 2018. It's quite chunky but setup as a multi fin, you may be able to get it turn and bite.
Starboard Freewave has been pretty well received by many. The 86 would probably do well with a 5.7, just not as easy to balance when really light of course. Unfortunately I have yet to test the recent versions.
Hi
I usually go float&ride with my 84 goya quad, but I can't uphaul it and for very light conditions I prefer a bigger one because:
- More confortable floating
- Easier uphauling
- You get planning earlier in light on shore conditions with the same wave sail and bigger board. I prefer bigger board than bigger sail
- You catch more waves with bigger boards in very light conditions
- I tested my son's ultrakode 105 and it surfed incredibly well with my weight. I didn't miss my 84 at all. The only problem was the board was so wide that my feet are a bit short to get my heel on the rail for planning and getting upwind. That's why I look for a bit smaller one.
Old big boards didn't surf as present ones. Now I don't find any reason to make to myself our sport tougher than it is.
Going out in conditions requiring uphauling is going to be very physical and technical to catch waves. But I understand that if you travel or have limited schedule then you want to get on the water at all cost.
Although still, if you can't waterstart then getting through the waves or out of the waves is going to be very difficult too.
Technically speaking, uphauling small boards becomes easier when they start sinking because they aren't as affected by the water surface imperfections which can make bigger boards tilt and rotate under current etc. Plus when you get tugged by a big board it can be a bit crazy!
The latest Windsurf magazine might be a nice read. 105 liter crossover boards reviewed. Some of the above mentioned boards included. You can buy this (or any other) issue online and read it online.
Got a JP free wave single fin it's old 8'+ 98ltr not as as good as my wave board but still wave rides. planes quick good up wind. It's probs outa fashion but Im old it has a classic rounded pin surfboard shape.
