Hi,
i have been riding Ezzy Sails for the last couple of years and most recently was really happy with my Ezzy Taka Quiver. As my Takas are 3 years old (and feel the beating over those years) and i have to update my quiver... I am thinking of switching to the Goya Banzai 2022/23 sails. I always was tempted by them but with the weight reduction in the new models they are now a real option and the Ezzy Taka and Wave seem almost unchanged compared to the previous year (???). With my Ezzy Taka i was able to have a quiver that was only consisting of 3 sail sizes 5.3m, 4.5m (key sail) and 3.8m and the 3 sail quiver worked well with me. I weight 73kg and usually sail in onshore conditions (light inside, strong and gusty outside).
3 Questions:
1) Do you have any recommendation what the best quiver could be if i switch to the Banzai? Do i need 4 sails to be well covered (would be ok, e.g. 5.3, 4.7, 4.2 and 3.7) or can i go with 3 as well (e.g. 5.3, 4.5 and 3.7)?
2) Should i start with 5.3 or rather go to 5.5 (the Ezzy Taka 5.3 was really good/powerful in light wind)?
3) I read a lot that Ezzy Masts and Goya Masts (both manufactured by nolimitz (?)) are very similar or even close to identical (??). Should i also buy new Goya masts or stick with my existing Ezzy masts for best performance?
Cheers!
For Goya, swapping between the top clew and bottom clew gives the sails good range, so I suspect 4.0/4.7/5.5 would work. And would fit on just 2 masts, 370 and 400. But I've never sailed the Taka so take my advice with a pinch of salt re: comparative sizing.
I have a 2020 5.3 complementing my 2019 5.7 5.0 sails and this size is very powerful. So i decided that the biggest sail in my next quiver will be the 5.5.
Me, 93 kg.
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Hi,
i have been riding Ezzy Sails for the last couple of years and most recently was really happy with my Ezzy Taka Quiver. As my Takas are 3 years old (and feel the beating over those years) and i have to update my quiver... I am thinking of switching to the Goya Banzai 2022/23 sails. I always was tempted by them but with the weight reduction in the new models they are now a real option and the Ezzy Taka and Wave seem almost unchanged compared to the previous year (???). With my Ezzy Taka i was able to have a quiver that was only consisting of 3 sail sizes 5.3m, 4.5m (key sail) and 3.8m and the 3 sail quiver worked well with me. I weight 73kg and usually sail in onshore conditions (light inside, strong and gusty outside).
3 Questions:
1) Do you have any recommendation what the best quiver could be if i switch to the Banzai? Do i need 4 sails to be well covered (would be ok, e.g. 5.3, 4.7, 4.2 and 3.7) or can i go with 3 as well (e.g. 5.3, 4.5 and 3.7)?
2) Should i start with 5.3 or rather go to 5.5 (the Ezzy Taka 5.3 was really good/powerful in light wind)?
3) I read a lot that Ezzy Masts and Goya Masts (both manufactured by nolimitz (?)) are very similar or even close to identical (??). Should i also buy new Goya masts or stick with my existing Ezzy masts for best performance?
Cheers!
Coming from the the Ezzy Taka (and weighngg 73 kg),I would suggest the Goya Fringe 20/21 - you would be blown away. Sizes ? -5.0,4.2,3.5.
I would not worry, best advice I ever had was "you can only have one sail in your hands at any time". So does it matter if you have a 5.2 "power" wave sail, or a less powerful / sideshore oriented 5.5? As a heavy guy I thought I had to have powerful wave sails and its not true. More stable yes, but sizes are irrelevant.
And this is even more true for you if you're only using 3 sails - as you will use every one of them underpowered at times, and overpowered at times. So why would you worry about 0.2m difference when changing brands? You will still use all those sails under or over powered at some time.
No NO NO on the 5.5 ...... ! what happens if its 5.0 weather ? ...... 5.5's for yr weight will just feel clunky , and weigh down yr board too much and make very move feel cr@p .... with very little gain over a 5.2 (for a 73kg ) ...
Make sure you get one of those new Goya booms with extra wide tail , will allow you to bag out an extra click of depth and add more bottom end to all yr sails (I've personally got a wide tailed enigma - its added so much bottom end to my sails ) .... Think about investment in components in general , like wide tail carbon booms , and maybe 100% masts for smaller days etc , as , in general they last many many seasons , vs overly investing in sails that degrade with Uv quickly etc ... The components can change quiver applications a lot ....
My pref (if 4.5 the key size for you ) , would be 3.7 / 4.5 / 5.0 ..... and have that 5.0 share in some of the heavy lifting sessions wise (vs a 5.2) ....
2ND pref would be yr current working arrangement of 3.7 / 4.5 / 5.2 ....
Even if I was going 4 sails quiver - I still wouldn't go 5.5 , would much rather 3.7 / 4.2 / 4.7 / 5.2 , and get the mid sizes sharing some of the work load .... 5.5's for yr weight feel just sh&t , much better to invest in a faster rockered board as a light wind alternative rather than loading up on a 5.5
You also have to look at how much your using the 5.2 and 3.7 .... if the 4.5 is getting smashed , then maybe a 5.0 is a better bet to spread that session loading / use of sails .... Think there's a lot of goodness in the middle bandwidth of quivers ,,, so maybe 4.0 / 4.5 / 5.0 would be golden !
Hi, I've been using a spread of 3.7, 4.2 Goya Guru, 5.0, 5.7 Banzai. Coupled with a 2 board quiver with roughly 20l spread 87-106l Quattro cubes. I have not yet felt a need for anything in between the 4.2 and 5.0 and this is my second quiver with this sizing. My reasoning for Gurus in the smaller sizes is they are slightly more geared for high winds where max power isn't a priority. Max control in high winds and more power in lighter conditions. Both ranges of sails have a huge wind range. I nearly always use the bottom clew setting with enough tension to keep the sail just off the boom. Resist the temptation to bag out the sail too much as this has a negative effect and actually makes the sail slower to plane. Downhaul to the recommended dot +/- about 5mm depending on the wind and simply raise or lower the boom for lower to higher wind strength. I'm about 86 kg so adjust your sizes if you're lighter. At 73 kg a 5.0 or 4.7 banzai will have loads of power for you on light wind days.
I'm using maverex masts , I have tried Goya and loft masts as well and all work on Goya sails so your Ezzy masts could well work. Hope this helps
Cheers Rob
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Hi,
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3) I read a lot that Ezzy Masts and Goya Masts (both manufactured by nolimitz (?)) are very similar or even close to identical (??). Should i also buy new Goya masts or stick with my existing Ezzy masts for best performance?
Cheers!
Unifiber says Goyas are flex top and Ezzies are pretty much 12% cc.
You'd expect Goya sails on Ezzy masts to set with a lot of upper leach tension and probably a high centre of lift. These aren't things you would particularly notice until you tried both masts in the same sail. Also the downhaul dots on the sail would be wrong for the wrong mast.
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I would not worry, best advice I ever had was "you can only have one sail in your hands at any time". So does it matter if you have a 5.2 "power" wave sail, or a less powerful / sideshore oriented 5.5? As a heavy guy I thought I had to have powerful wave sails and its not true. More stable yes, but sizes are irrelevant.
And this is even more true for you if you're only using 3 sails - as you will use every one of them underpowered at times, and overpowered at times. So why would you worry about 0.2m difference when changing brands? You will still use all those sails under or over powered at some time.
Haha. So true. However, if you are advanced, not sure we can advise here..
Personally, if walk to the beach where I sail (one block away) I can only carry 2 sails roped to the boom and they better cover good range. I'm very rarely wrong with 2. If I drive to some spot, I usually take 2 sometimes 3 sails. Less is more... I would get 3 unless 4th sail is on tap. lol
Also wind min-max during any session is usually such that, the dif between 4.5-4.2 may not be material. And for 3.7 to feel awesome it should equally blow strong and even. I do have 3.7 but where I sail 3.7 wind is very uncomfortable and rare. So if I dropped 3.7 from my range I would maybe miss 1 session a season.
I think you can easily do with a three sail quiver. I use Banzais 2020 4.0, 4.5, 5.0 and 5.5 (rigs on two masts 370/400) I am 100 kilos, and think I would be fine with 4.2, 4.7, 5.3. The Banzais have a huge rigging range! But ofcourse it also depends on wind conditions you usually sail in !
