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North Platinum Aero Boom vs Maui Sails Carbon Boom

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Created by dextersurf > 9 months ago, 16 Dec 2015
dextersurf
SA, 114 posts
16 Dec 2015 10:40PM
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2016 North Platinum Aero 140-190 vs Maui Sails Carbon Wave 140-190

Weights:
Platinum Aero - quoted=1.85kg - actual=1.87kg
Maui Sails - quoted=2.20kg - actual=2.34kg

Further feedback to follow after testing!
The Maui Sails has been perfect for about 6 to 7 years and, apart from the grip, is still almost like new.
Looks like we have a new acronym 'ULAC' - Ultra Light Aerospace Carbon.











petermac33
WA, 6415 posts
16 Dec 2015 10:08PM
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Thou shalt not want....

masse
49 posts
17 Dec 2015 6:04PM
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Low weight sure is nice. Any idea on how durable the North PA boom is?

Apart from the Enigma (and will see about that one since it now is in the hands of our local #1 gear Terminator), a number of light, sub 2 kgs or so, carbon booms that I've come across have not lasted very long. Considering the price of these things, durability sure is an issue for me at least.

KJ
VIC, 157 posts
26 Dec 2015 8:54PM
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can you get it in 150-200 size?

also does any one know what the new 160 looks like? they say its got a "hybrid" curve what ever that means

joe windsurf
1481 posts
27 Dec 2015 12:22AM
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if the North is a 140-190 why the wide tail ??
can u put them on top of each other in a pic to compare shapes ??

dextersurf
SA, 114 posts
29 Dec 2015 8:42PM
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joe windsurf said..
if the North is a 140-190 why the wide tail ??
can u put them on top of each other in a pic to compare shapes ??



When I rigged sails to the recommended specs, they occasionally rubbed against the boom arms on the Mail Sails boom, so it seems like a good idea to widen the back-end.

Sure, here are a few pics to compare the curves. I was surprised that the North boom is narrower at the front. I might try moving from 28" to 30" harness lines to compensate and see how it feels. Maybe that it part of the reason why Victor F uses 34" harness lines.







uweh
311 posts
29 Dec 2015 6:23PM
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thanks for pics !

dextersurf
SA, 114 posts
29 Dec 2015 11:36PM
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By the way, the boom heads are centered above each other in the photos. It is just the photo angles that makes it look misaligned.

uweh
311 posts
29 Dec 2015 10:39PM
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how wide is the boomend inside north in cm ? thanks in advance

Yves
WA, 134 posts
30 Dec 2015 7:43AM
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Hi, is it possible to fit an SDM adapter into the North 140-190 boom? Websites states included adapter RDM but does this mean an SDM adapter could not be fitted instead if required? Thanks

seanhogan
QLD, 3424 posts
30 Dec 2015 9:48AM
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Never heard of a SDM adapter, I think the head is SDM and can fit a RDM mast with an adapter

dextersurf
SA, 114 posts
30 Dec 2015 10:29PM
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uweh said..
how wide is the boomend inside north in cm ? thanks in advance



Sure. This was quicker to markup than explain in words, so a quick sketch is below :)

I also measured the boom diameters as follows (with a ruler but it felt reasonably accurate)...

Maui Sails carbon = 30mm with grip (quoted 30mm for 2016 website)
2016 North Platinum Aero = 29mm with grip (quoted 27.5mm)
2016 North Silver Slalom = 32mm with grip (quoted 30mm)
2016 North Red Slalom = 32mm with grip (quoted 30mm)

I think Maui Sails quote diameters with grip whilst North quote diameters without grip.

It is surprising that you can feel the 1mm difference between the Maui Sails 30mm and North 29mm.




uweh
311 posts
30 Dec 2015 10:32PM
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Hi dextersurf ,

thanks for sketch and specs !

thanks uwe

p.s. and again tailwide ms boom ?

Mark _australia
WA, 22736 posts
30 Dec 2015 10:34PM
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I am wondering why they call it 100% carbon - when the trace threads (blue and white) gives it away as having something else...... glass, kevlar, innegra, polyester etc can all be dyed but carbon can't.
So it ain't 100% carbon.

Not saying that is a bad thing, many things benefit from the stiffness of carbon but need a mix of materials to get the best of both worlds.
Just seems a bit deceptive...?

Then the reason we can see it is the grip not running all the way to the front ....... which makes me think why DO we grip booms all the way where it is not needed...?


Widetail on wavebooms is inexplicable, can see it will be the thing to have next season.....

uweh
311 posts
30 Dec 2015 10:55PM
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hi mark ,

widetail on waveboom ist great when sails are really rigged for light wind etc...i like it even for 3 batten sails , dont like sail is scarching the boom...

dextersurf
SA, 114 posts
31 Dec 2015 9:16AM
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uweh said..
p.s. and again tailwide ms boom ?


Hi uweh,
Sorry but I no longer have the MS boom as it was shipped off yesterday.

Yves
WA, 134 posts
31 Dec 2015 8:25AM
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I guess I wasn't clear in my question... Can you fit the North 140-190 Wave boom on an SDM mast?

Website says "adapter: RDM" whereas on other larger boom sizes it says "RDM+SDM" or just "SDM".

This implies the boom head is RDM specific and cant be used with an SDM mast. Is this correct?

So I guess my previous question was can you fit an SDM boom head to replace the RDM specific one.

Cheers.

dextersurf
SA, 114 posts
1 Jan 2016 12:30AM
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Yves said..
Hi, is it possible to fit an SDM adapter into the North 140-190 boom? Websites states included adapter RDM but does this mean an SDM adapter could not be fitted instead if required? Thanks



Hi Yves,
Yes, an SDM adapter can be fitted if required.
Below are comparison photos with a 2016 North Red 180-230 which comes with a SDM adapter.

http://www.north-windsurf.com/eng/nodes/display/pages/boom-technology
"This exceptional fit is guaranteed on SDM as well as RDM masts as the iFRONT 2.0 can be adapted within seconds through the exchange of 2 different friction pads."

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Yves
WA, 134 posts
1 Jan 2016 11:02AM
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Thank you dextersurf for clearing that up, appreciate it. Cheers

Mark _australia
WA, 22736 posts
4 Jan 2016 10:24PM
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gawd - iFront? Does that have a usb connector...?

chinookRandD
18 posts
6 Jan 2016 6:24AM
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Mark _australia said..
I am wondering why they call it 100% carbon - when the trace threads (blue and white) gives it away as having something else...... glass, kevlar, innegra, polyester etc can all be dyed but carbon can't.
So it ain't 100% carbon.

Not saying that is a bad thing, many things benefit from the stiffness of carbon but need a mix of materials to get the best of both worlds.
Just seems a bit deceptive...?

Then the reason we can see it is the grip not running all the way to the front ....... which makes me think why DO we grip booms all the way where it is not needed...?



I guarantee that tiny bit is only there on the very front for looks. It would be stupid to use any woven material - let alone Kevlar/Carbon hybrid as the structural component. Undoubtedly, it is all Unidirectional carbon(stronger & cheaper) & the claim is the "Aero" version uses higher than standard modulus...



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