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Severne Dyno 115L ongoing review

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Created by aeroegnr > 9 months ago, 9 Mar 2021
aeroegnr
1649 posts
9 Mar 2021 11:48AM
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I finally got a chance to ride this board in planing conditions.

It's rated up to 7.5m2 sails, but I took it out with an 8.0 Ezzy Cheetah, testing it back to back with my Fanatic Blast 145.

The board that I've sailed that feels most similar is my older JP 102 freewave/freestyle wave board that I have sailed on high wind days.

My weight, yesterday, was about 191lbs when I was done, or about 86.6kg

First impressions:
This is a great board. I put the mast base right at the marked location on the deck an just went for it. I set up the stock thruster fins at the grippiest position, which was the smallest fins as far back as they could go. This was fine for the 8.0 sail, and I only spun out when I was pushing too hard on the back foot too early. I haven't sailed a thruster before, and it was interesting seeing how it felt.

After planing around a bit with the stock thrusters, I also tried a Black Project Kraken single fin (32cm) with the blankout plates provided with the board. If I was really ginger with my back foot, I could accelerate through 20mph and get going. But, I'm not super skilled, only an aspiring intermediate, and definitely overweighed and thus spun out that single a bunch of times. The stock thrusters had a lot more hold for sloppy mistakes by me.

I was sailing in fairly flat water conditions, as I've been recovering from multiple injuries and didn't want to push it too hard in waves and swell, I just wanted to get the board planing finally. I took it out in subplaning conditions with a 6.6 goya mark and I could uphaul it. That's what I wanted, a wave board an option of thruster fins that I could uphaul, and this board delivered on that.

Hardware:
I really really like the use of hex keys on the footstraps, fins, and the severne battens. It is so much less likely to strip out, and I can use the same supplied tool with all the severne gear.

Jibing:
I'm admittedly a klutz with jibes. I have not maintained a full planing jibe. I crash most of my jibes on the Blast when at planing speeds.

BUT

This board surprised me a lot. The volume seems much further back than the Blast, and more floaty than my JP. I actually succeeded in a slow jibe, meaning I was planing and then fell of during the jibe, on my 2nd or 3rd attempt ever on this board. This shocked me. If I can do a planing entry and stay dry on the exit after completing a jibe, the board SHOULD be easy to jibe for just about everyone.

Durability:
This is a concern of mine. Somehow, and I don't know how, I managed to take the paint off an area on the side of the board. I'm not sure if it happened while I had the board on the roof of my car or if my harness hook did the damage while I clumsily clambered on the board to uphaul it, but I took off the paint in a scrape somehow. So, having the board out only twice, and getting a good mark on it the second time, does have me a bit worried. I've scraped the crap out of my Blast, but it's never gone all the way through the paint like that. I really like the paint on the Dyno, so this was a bit heartbreaking. It's a VERY good looking board, red and sexy, so I didn't want that kind of damage right away.

That said, the board came with a stock nose protector, and I hit it a couple of times yesterday and that didn't seem to cause any damage. I just wish I knew what exactly caused the paint to come off completely on the side. It doesn't look like a dent, just a total removal of the paint in one area.

Waves:
Due to injury recovery I've been avoiding pushing through shorebreak to try this board out in the waves. But, I'm planning on updating this review as soon as I am able to get out in waves again.

Videos
On Thruster:



On the single:


Me playing around with video editing/music:

gorgesailor
608 posts
10 Mar 2021 4:29AM
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Um... 8.0 sail on a 32cm fin... there's your problem. If you plan on sailing the board with the 8.0 very often you will need more fin... Good review though!

aeroegnr
1649 posts
10 Mar 2021 7:07AM
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Um... 8.0 sail on a 32cm fin... there's your problem. If you plan on sailing the board with the 8.0 very often you will need more fin... Good review though!


You are correct, I just wanted to see if it was doable

I expect more time on thrusters and 6.6 and below on this board, especially in float and ride conditions.

inglis2021
45 posts
10 Mar 2021 2:22PM
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A few tips to improve your gybing - you need to rotate the sail a lot earlier relative to the amount you have carved the board.

Your weight should transfer forward much more towards the nose as your gybe progresses to balance the board better.

Your foot should come out of the front strap as you release the back hand from your boom. Your front foot should then pivot allowing you to balance the board better by allowing your body to move forward earlier.

Good luck with your gybing.

aeroegnr
1649 posts
11 Apr 2021 10:30PM
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Got out a bit underpowered with the 5.0 blade. Got everything dialed in. This was really relaxing to ride in these conditions, which were gusty float and ride. Sometime there will probably be a storm here and I can get out totally lit up in bigger waves, but this handled out of strap wave riding and just easy chill rides without much drama. Grabs these tiny waves and just lets you go.

Easy to shlog around with the front foot out by the mast base. Got in the straps a few times but it just wasn't enough for this sail. Probably would've been screaming on my 6.6 or maybe at least mostly planing on my 5.8 but it's a long walk to the car from this beach and I was having too much relaxing fun like this after practicing foil pumping a bunch recently.Here's a 7min clip, not that exciting but I caught some small waves at the end.

mariachi76
130 posts
16 Apr 2021 7:34AM
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Looks nice!

In the video, most of time you are like half-planing, nose high up, tail too low, plowing through the water with 15 mph.
From the water conditions, your weight and 8.0 sail size I would guess wind speeds were around 15-16kn. In such conditions you should easily reach 25 mph.

Two suggestions:
- when starting to plane, go more downwind in the beginning to get more speed and fully release the board from the water, only then you go upwind again. Thew Dyno has a strong Vee, like my Fox, and has this "plowing" tendency at lower speeds. So go downwind to get some speed, create lift from the fin and fly over the water.
- for freeriding, use a bigger (carbon) fin. Your fin might not get you the lift you need.
- for such freeride-conditions, use a 4 footstrap configuration, with footsraps in the outer positions if you can.

Jibes already look good, as many already said: put your body weight more forward, bend your knees slightly. It is a natural "defensive" reaction to keep the body weight back to not fall over, but by doing so, you sink the tail and loose all speed. For full planing jibe, bring your weight forward and let the sail pull you forward.

have fun!
mariachi76

PhilUK
1011 posts
16 Apr 2021 3:29PM
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I'd stick with the Blast 140 if it were me. Its nice to try out new toys but a Dyno isnt the board for those conditions.

aeroegnr
1649 posts
25 Apr 2021 9:11PM
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I was able to get the board out yesterday in mostly 5.8 conditions, except for some lulls.

Honestly, I struggled quite a bit to get planing. The first problem which took me a while to get sorted, as I've spent most of my time foiling lately due to conditions just not being good for small sail waveriding, was the mast foot position. I had to move it around 1-1.5cm forward to get planing when heading outbound. I had it set up dead center every other time I used it, but also struggled to get planing. Once I did that, it released way better.

The other issue was weeds. Yesterday in particular was very messy water in the gulf filled with weed clumps, and the stock thruster fins just grabbed everything that came close. I would get up sub-planing, feel like the board wanted to release, then realize and then need to clear a huge bunch of clumps from the board.

Anyway, kind of annoyed that I didn't realize the mast foot needed to be so far forward, earlier.

Aside from that, now that it's less about rig trimming and more about my own skills, it feels a lot better catching the small waves here than the other boards I've got. Can't wait to get it out again and focus on getting the most out of this board and improving my own skills, instead of figuring out either sail, board trim, or something else. And hopefully less weeds on the next time I take it out.

I'll probably re-visit the outboard straps again in single fin mode with the mast foot further forward. Just don't know when it'll be blowing hard enough again to ride this vs. just riding a foil. There's a great spot that I think I would really like going screaming around on here on the right wind/tide, more of a bump and jump situation. Will probably need another cold front to get the most out of it.




snorkel962
QLD, 470 posts
20 May 2021 8:36PM
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Not the 115 but I've now had my Dyno 125 for six months and it's great. Today was out in stupidly variable breeze - huge near-zero holes- and some boom-high waves. Set up as a single fin though today's conditions may have been a good thruster day. Planes up early and despite the volume jumps well and is really fun as a chuckaround. When the lulls hit it dredges well and as soon as it's planing can be pushed upwind to get back to the bit of reef where the waves were. It's a very big freewave for my size but sailing in super variable winds it's been a great find.

aeroegnr
1649 posts
20 May 2021 7:38PM
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I took it out again with both the 5.8 and 5.0 and 33cm single Black Project Kraken . Felt like it should have been well powered. Maybe my skills have atrophied due to so much foiling, but if I swapped to the 145L blast with the same sail, I could get that planing way easier than the Dyno. I've had to set the mast foot forward to get the Dyno going instead of at the center. I'm also re-visiting the tips here: www.severnesails.com/dyno-board-setup-with-simon-bornhoft-part-4-super-early-planing-for-all-levels/

It's definitely more technical to get it planing than the Blast. Not entirely sure how I feel about it because clearly I am doing something wrong when I can easily waterstart with 5.8 or 5.0 but try to aim downwind for the push and am just not getting going. Maybe I have my weight too far back to begin with. It was very choppy but not deep swells, with really patchy gusts supposedly from 20-35kts (wind meter was probably a little high but it's right there nearby).

Also I've noticed that when I set it up with the stock thrusters I have an easier time than with the single. Looks like similar conditions this evening, so I'll likely set it up with thrusters this time and try again.

Late edit:I just remembered that one of the main annoyances of this board is that the mast base is very difficult to slide in on this board compared to my others. The nut gets jammed and is very difficult and frustrating to get into the track all the way.

mariachi76
130 posts
26 May 2021 10:22PM
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aeroegnr said..
I took it out again with both the 5.8 and 5.0 and 33cm single Black Project Kraken . Felt like it should have been well powered. Maybe my skills have atrophied due to so much foiling, but if I swapped to the 145L blast with the same sail, I could get that planing way easier than the Dyno. I've had to set the mast foot forward to get the Dyno going instead of at the center. I'm also re-visiting the tips here: www.severnesails.com/dyno-board-setup-with-simon-bornhoft-part-4-super-early-planing-for-all-levels/

It's definitely more technical to get it planing than the Blast. Not entirely sure how I feel about it because clearly I am doing something wrong when I can easily waterstart with 5.8 or 5.0 but try to aim downwind for the push and am just not getting going. Maybe I have my weight too far back to begin with. It was very choppy but not deep swells, with really patchy gusts supposedly from 20-35kts (wind meter was probably a little high but it's right there nearby).

Also I've noticed that when I set it up with the stock thrusters I have an easier time than with the single. Looks like similar conditions this evening, so I'll likely set it up with thrusters this time and try again.

Late edit:I just remembered that one of the main annoyances of this board is that the mast base is very difficult to slide in on this board compared to my others. The nut gets jammed and is very difficult and frustrating to get into the track all the way.


- For a 115L board/86kg, a 33cm single fin is too small for freeriding and blasting. Try a 36cm fin or even larger, that helps you to get planing.
- in all your videos it seems that you have too much weight in the back of the board. When start planing, position your front foot to the mast foot. Go real downwind until you have the feeling that the sail pulls you forward close to a catapult. All weight in the harness, front leg fully stretched. When you want to go upwind again (maybe out of self-preservation instinct in tough conditions :-) - don't do it! Stay downwind until you really are at full planing speed, and you feel the board is flat on the water, with sufficient lift from the fin. Only then you go upwind again. Thats how to do with smaller boards with a a strong Vee. You just cant compare it to a 145L Blast.

best regards
mariachi76

aeroegnr
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26 May 2021 11:57PM
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- For a 115L board/86kg, a 33cm single fin is too small for freeriding and blasting. Try a 36cm fin or even larger, that helps you to get planing.
- in all your videos it seems that you have too much weight in the back of the board. When start planing, position your front foot to the mast foot. Go real downwind until you have the feeling that the sail pulls you forward close to a catapult. All weight in the harness, front leg fully stretched. When you want to go upwind again (maybe out of self-preservation instinct in tough conditions :-) - don't do it! Stay downwind until you really are at full planing speed, and you feel the board is flat on the water, with sufficient lift from the fin. Only then you go upwind again. Thats how to do with smaller boards with a a strong Vee. You just cant compare it to a 145L Blast.

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mariachi76


Yes, thank you, I think you are right. I went back out the next day on only the blast and the conditions were extremely tough, so it was also the huge wind range that I was dealing with. I'll try to keep that in mind, but we don't get a whole lot of rideable days in conditions suitable for the Dyno. Hopefully more soon but in the meantime I'll be foiling. I'll spend more time with others when I take it out because on similar boards and sails they plane earlier than me, and this is 100% my fault for stance and pointing too high upwind.

aeroegnr
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18 Aug 2021 9:33AM
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- For a 115L board/86kg, a 33cm single fin is too small for freeriding and blasting. Try a 36cm fin or even larger, that helps you to get planing.



Ended up getting a 40cm k4 for fun. Will try to push it on a 6.6 or my 8.0 again when the wind gets to that appropriate level and I don't want to foil. I've considered getting a goya mark 7.4 or another sail rated to the max 7.5 per the board specs with the straps outboard but we'll see. I have been underfinned a bit on my blast when I got on the 9.5 and I can recognize it a bit better now when I'm underfinned, but I know that even with the 8.0 I can plane on the 33cm and the dyno but it's challenging and very touchy. I think with the 40cm I should be able to actually get some more regular time on the dyno and have a much much easier time in the chaotic bay chop than what pounds me to death on the blast.

Also grabbed some 12cm k4 dugong fronts for weedy wave days. Will need a weed center fin to match, wasn't quite satisfied with what i could find and I was surprised k4 doesn't make a powerbox center weed fin that would go with those.

stehsegler
WA, 3477 posts
18 Aug 2021 11:48AM
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I have a 115 Dyno and use it with sails up to 6.2. Personally I feel that's probably the max sail size I would use. The returns are diminishing with much bigger sails and the weight of the rig is starting to become a problem. I am significantly heavier than you but find once it gets "too windy" for me to foil I can swap the same sail straight onto the 115 Dyno and it works well.

Also, for free riding I would switch the straps to the outboard position and use double straps at the back. I would also run the straps a touch further back for free riding. There is quite a difference in top speed using that setup. Only use inboard / single strap if you know you'll be riding waves.

aeroegnr
1649 posts
29 Aug 2021 3:46AM
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Finally had conditions good enough to take out the Dyno again.

Tried 2 different sails (blew a hole in my 6.6 Goya Mark almost first thing in the day because I fell clumsily straight onto my knee). I ended up using an older 6.5 Ezzy Wave of my friend's, he basically saved the day.

Also tried 3 different fins: 33 Black Project Kraken, 37 True Ames Weed, 40cm K4 Fang.

I spent most of my time on the 40cm K4 Fang. It caught a little bit of weeds, but it really, really helped getting it going. It was very up and down and I would've liked to have more of a 7-7.5 for the lulls. Figured out how to pump onto plane, a little trickier than my more voluminous boards, but I got it over the hump a few times. Almost tried the 8.0 again but decided against it today with how the wind was behaving.

Thoughts:
The board feels great powered up on the K4 with those outboard straps. I just wish there weren't as many weeds today, or the wind was in a little more favorable direction so I could avoid the shallower area where they grab the tip.

It eats up chop and feels controlled, lively, and comfortable compared to the Blast in similar conditions. I wasn't 100% dialed because I'm just not as used to this board, but that larger fin made all the difference.

The only downside of that fin was that it definitely didn't respond to jibing inputs as well. Felt much stiffer on the K4. I'm not the best on fin now with all of my foiling time but it was noticeable.

The 37 True Ames (my friend's) was almost there, but I could feel the deficit in lift compared to the 40.

The 33 Kraken felt unsuited for this purpose. I got it over the hump but the lift wasn't there. Probably would've felt a lot better on waves.

Looking forward to the next time I can take this board out, and try the wave setup again. Conditions aren't there yet.

Board setup:
4 outboard straps, middle hole in all positions
Mast base tried in a few places from ~1.5cm forward of center back to center marks. Center mark was best. With it at the furthest forward setting it didn't pump onto plane as easily as when it was on the center, felt sticky, so I moved it back.
Blanking plates in outer fin slots

Short clip:

PhilUK
1011 posts
29 Aug 2021 5:20PM
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From the way the spray is coming off the underneath of the board so far forward I'd suggest putting the straps in the rear holes and moving the mast back a bit. It also looks like the windward rail is lower than the leeward rail. Sail it flat or better still with the leeward rail lower.
Then the board will then sail off the fin more instead of ploughing through the water.
Or it could be that the wind is just too light.
If the wind is too light to be properly powered up with a 6.5m, your 8m & 145 Blast would be a better choice.

aeroegnr
1649 posts
29 Aug 2021 9:30PM
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From the way the spray is coming off the underneath of the board so far forward I'd suggest putting the straps in the rear holes and moving the mast back a bit. It also looks like the windward rail is lower than the leeward rail. Sail it flat or better still with the leeward rail lower.
Then the board will then sail off the fin more instead of ploughing through the water.
Or it could be that the wind is just too light.
If the wind is too light to be properly powered up with a 6.5m, your 8m & 145 Blast would be a better choice.


Yeah it was up and down. The gusts were well powered on 6.5. I may try adjusting the straps some aftward, it responded well to mast base getting pushed further back but I didn't do it more.

It would've been good on the Blast as long as I was in the protected area. Similar conditions, running outside of the sandbar, the Blast is too wide and too flat it seems, very unpleasant. I did it before in similar conditions and I didn't stick out there for a reason.

A little more wind or a little more sail and I would've ventured outside more, but it wasn't quite there. At least I got it going.

Kind of wondering if I should ditch my 102JP which I haven't used since I got the Dyno and swap for a Fox 120 or something with a little more width/float than the Fox for that reason, that'll really stand more sail, and leave the Dyno as my main wave board. I loved the way it felt in the waves, it's just starting to enter that season soon.

Sea Lotus
320 posts
30 Aug 2021 8:27PM
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Fox 120 should carry 8.0 without problem, its +35lt from your weight so it should be enough to be your big board. I would have sold the blast 145, and keep the 102jp fsw for future when you will have stronger winds, blast would bring in good money too instead of old jp, so you can replace the jp with that money later on if you wish, but if jp is the polakov version one, i think they are very nice boards even if they are old, they are light too, worth keeping, not easy to find single fin fsw boards these days.

That spot looks like its flat, blast is already dull imo, so it would be a little boring, fox is definitely more exciting to ride and its faster.
If your sail range is 5.0-8.0, two boards can cover, 5.0 and 6.5 for dyno 115 (105lt would have been a better size) and bigger sails for fox 120.

If you are worried about build quality in dyno, you should be more worried about fox, they have the white version now but i doubt paint job and outer shell is stronger. I had no issues with dynos durability (except the goretex auto vent taking in water) or paint, but i did have problems with fox.

About single fin, narrower (leading edge to trailing edge) and upright fins work nice with dyno. Definitely not bp kraken, they are too wide and too stiff, doesn't feel good at all. K4 feeling stiff is interesting, they are plastic and should be way softer than g10, maybe its because its too big. I am using dynos oldest version fins for thruster setup, they are narrower and softer, olso originals are too big and slows the board unnecessarily, that is for smaller board sizes though. Its like they were too lazy to design different size fins, 12,5 side fins from 85lt to 115lt, no 19cm center for 85lt, just lazy imo.

aeroegnr
1649 posts
30 Aug 2021 9:36PM
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Fox 120 should carry 8.0 without problem, its +35lt from your weight so it should be enough to be your big board. I would have sold the blast 145, and keep the 102jp fsw for future when you will have stronger winds, blast would bring in good money too instead of old jp, so you can replace the jp with that money later on if you wish, but if jp is the polakov version one, i think they are very nice boards even if they are old, they are light too, worth keeping, not easy to find single fin fsw boards these days.

That spot looks like its flat, blast is already dull imo, so it would be a little boring, fox is definitely more exciting to ride and its faster.
If your sail range is 5.0-8.0, two boards can cover, 5.0 and 6.5 for dyno 115 (105lt would have been a better size) and bigger sails for fox 120.

If you are worried about build quality in dyno, you should be more worried about fox, they have the white version now but i doubt paint job and outer shell is stronger. I had no issues with dynos durability (except the goretex auto vent taking in water) or paint, but i did have problems with fox.

About single fin, narrower (leading edge to trailing edge) and upright fins work nice with dyno. Definitely not bp kraken, they are too wide and too stiff, doesn't feel good at all. K4 feeling stiff is interesting, they are plastic and should be way softer than g10, maybe its because its too big. I am using dynos oldest version fins for thruster setup, they are narrower and softer, olso originals are too big and slows the board unnecessarily, that is for smaller board sizes though. Its like they were too lazy to design different size fins, 12,5 side fins from 85lt to 115lt, no 19cm center for 85lt, just lazy imo.


Right now the Blast works really well for off days when I don't want to IQFoil, not sure if I want to sell it since I still use it for up to 9.5 in flat water and also with my slingshot foil. I may swap that for a dedicated freeride foil board, but I'm not in a rush.

Yeah either the fin felt stiff in jibes because it is too big or my technique sucks. It felt better in jibes with the stock thrusters and an 8.0 when I tried it, but it was definitely underfinned with that big of a sail.

So far that big paint chunk that came off is the only issue. I wonder if it was road debris hitting it on my roof while driving to the beach.

aeroegnr
1649 posts
11 Oct 2021 6:51AM
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Took the Dyno out again yesterday, 40cm K4 Fang again with the 7.5 Gator. I think I had too much downhaul on Gator, but other than that it felt great once I got it going.

Mast track about .5cm from the center mark. Straps outboard and all the way back.

It felt GREAT when cruising over the small waves and steering up and down the backsides of them. Much more maneuverable than the Blast, and didn't feel like I was getting beat up when smacking into/over them.

Rear straps definitely feels more lively.

Wind was just borderline. One of my buddies was on a Goya 116L, also with a 7.5 Gator but was about 20lbs lighter than me and much more experienced. Had to push much deeper downwind to stay on plane even with the big fin. He was using a 31cm that looked more like a freeride with a little more sweep to it.

I think that the 40cm is a bit to big honestly. Trying to carve a jibe at speed is extremely difficult. I can get some light wind jibes okay but I definitely feel the fin fighting me as soon as I have planing speed. Next time I may even try just going with the stock thruster or the weed thruster on the same sail to see how it performs better.


aeroegnr
1649 posts
19 Oct 2021 7:29PM
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We're finally getting some wind here after a long lull in the summer. Took the dyno out with a weed thruster arranagement, which was:

12cm K4 Dugong fronts
25cm, MFC Weed Wave
5.8 Ezzy Legacy rigged at center
Straps back inboard in 3 strap arrangement

The board feels completely different compared to the 40cm K4 Fang as expected. Much looser.

I did notice that with the thrusters and my setup I wasn't getting as upwind as the other guys out, but they were on single fin weed arrangements so maybe that's expected?



aeroegnr
1649 posts
31 Oct 2021 9:34AM
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This isn't really a review, more indicative of my skill level.

Conditions were varying between underpowered to overpowered with the 5.0 Blade, on stock thruster setup. Wind was dead onshore for a while, and I got burned out trying to get out of the inside, unsuccessfully, until I launched further upstream of the rip current.

After the wind shifted to be more side short, I finally got on the outside. One of the crashes, my shin hit the board so hard that it dented/split the composite and cut my leg severely. I didn't realize how bad it was, as it didn't hurt, until I saw the blood streaming down my leg.

This is a long video. It's frustrating a bit because I think I chose my launches poorly for a while and spent a lot of energy on the inside, while other guys on smaller volume boards were pushing on the outside. Was having a hard time getting planing because I was getting trapped between shallows and eating waves. If I dropped downwind to get on plane, I would strike the fins.

I've had much more success with more side shore conditions. But, the guys out there sailing further out are a lot more experienced than me.


aeroegnr
1649 posts
31 Oct 2021 11:08PM
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I've been told a single larger fin would've been better. I'll have to do that next time with straight onshore conditions.

aeroegnr
1649 posts
25 Nov 2021 9:36AM
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Had a really good morning with the Dyno.

6.6 conditions, weedy so I used a 25 MFC Weed Wave and 12 K4 Dugong fronts.

Was too lit up on the 6.6 at first with it at the center of the mast track but 1cm forward of there calmed it down quite a bit. I'm still pretty crappy about jibing in the waves but that's mainly because I don't get to use these small boards that often.

Had a bunch of fun catching 1-2ft swells on the outside of the protected area. It feels great properly trimmed, way more fun than my Blast in those conditions and I can shlog a bit in the straps to catch waves even in a 4:3 wetsuit.


More damage:

I had a goofy forward fall, not a catapult, catching a wave wrong and my knee hit the board on the side/center in front of the mast track. It'll need glass to repair. Kind of annoying because it didn't even seem like that hard of a hit.

Still like the board of course but I guess I'm hard in gear and will likely give this lots of scars.



First and last clips are on a different board but the rest are all Dyno.






PhilUK
1011 posts
25 Nov 2021 6:15PM
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More damage:

I had a goofy forward fall, not a catapult, catching a wave wrong and my knee hit the board on the side/center in front of the mast track. It'll need glass to repair. Kind of annoying because it didn't even seem like that hard of a hit.

Still like the board of course but I guess I'm hard in gear and will likely give this lots of scars.




A local here has the 85l Dyno, V1 or V2. He did a small jump on the way out through the whitewater with the back foot out of the strap and cracked his board like yours with a the heel of a bare foot. He is around 70kg. He fixed it with epoxy. Another with a V2 dropped the rig on a gybe, he fell off the back, the mast hit the nose and split it open horizontally and also with a crack deck and hull. Someone else has turned up with the latest rounder nosed version and they look better, (the square nosed stubby boards seem to have disappeared from most brands). They do look very thin at the edges, will a crack on the deck almost certainly go all the way around as its not thick enough to absorb the impact?
Not sure why they reinforce the nose with carbon, glass is more impact resistant. After a few unfortunate catapults on my Exocet carbon freerace board in the first few months to repair a crack I put several layers of very lightweight glass woven cloth and 5 years later I havent damaged it at all. I'm sure I've had a few catapults since fixing it. The weight of the resin and cloth was minimal.
I was looking for a replacement smallest board recently, 59-60cm wide, secondhand as new is off the list as I dont use them much, and the Dyno was one I was thinking of but small design and construction issues so I crossed it off the list. The 2 I know who sail them like the boards, they do get good user reviews on the web, but are faults always reported?

Basher
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25 Nov 2021 8:36PM
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As someone who has owned a lot of Dynos I feel I should add some background facts here, most of which are already known by Dyno owners and longer term fans of this board.

Firstly the Dyno is perhaps THE success story of recent board design, outselling many other cross-over boards from other brands.

It's also worth noting that the Dyno started off purely as a performance wave board, for wave sailors who might occasionally want to blast about with bigger sails on flat water days. As such, it was never intended as a beginner or intermediates' board.

The early ones (V1?) were made in a new factory in China, in a mold, and some of the early ones did split on the rails due to excessive sanding ahead of the painting process.
My own Dyno 95 split on one rail by the back strap and I was immediately offered a replacement under warranty. I had no problems with my Dyno 85 which came from the same factory. But I understand that V2 production was moved to the Cobra factory in Thailand.

Supply delays meant there was a wait for my replacement board, and so I stuck gaffer tape over the non-structural crack and continued to sail the board until the new one arrived.
I then slightly regretted giving up on the first board, because it was super light! Whereas the replacement was a more normal weight at 6.6kgs.

As more and more intermediates took to the Dyno, the squared off nose became a problem for those with a habit of doing catapults. So the current version (V3) has a pointy nose, making the hull slightly longer but with no performance loss. Fanatic made the similar nose design decision with their Stubby.

V3 of the Dyno is still a performance board, but a more user-friendly one.
If you are heavy on your gear, or like many of us have numpty moments, you can also buy a 'heavy duty' build version of the Dyno, and that has a black and white livery, instead of the red version. This comes out a little heavier, but not so much that most will notice.

aeroegnr
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25 Nov 2021 11:28PM
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Basher said..

V3 of the Dyno is still a performance board, but a more user-friendly one.
If you are heavy on your gear, or like many of us have numpty moments, you can also buy a 'heavy duty' build version of the Dyno, and that has a black and white livery, instead of the red version. This comes out a little heavier, but not so much that most will notice.


Yeah the HD wasn't available yet when I got this one.If anything, if I decide to get a Fox (instead of something else) for conditions too choppy for the 145 Blast I've got then I'd go for HD. But so far I'm not sure I'm ready to get another board yet.

PhilUK
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26 Nov 2021 6:51PM
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Basher said..
As someone who has owned a lot of Dynos


A lot?

Basher
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28 Nov 2021 7:17PM
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PhilUK said..


Basher said..
As someone who has owned a lot of Dynos




A lot?



Well 4.
Maybe that's not a 'lot', but it must be more than many people.

leto
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1 Dec 2021 3:39AM
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Basher said..

It's also worth noting that the Dyno started off purely as a performance wave board, for wave sailors who might occasionally want to blast about with bigger sails on flat water days. As such, it was never intended as a beginner or intermediates' board.


Interesting writeup and delam/mold split info. Good to know. Also naughty of you to belittle intermediate riders.I would have just used my 100L freestyle board that planes on the spot.
I would have never gotten Dyno in 125 though. I weigh 90kg with winter suit and find my 85L dyno pretty efficient with a single fin. My stupid logic with big boards and waves is like this: rider's weight + gear weight is basically 0 against the wave's mass but board size is not. So once big board is slapped with a 100 ton wave off the rider flies and flies far and fast..



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