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Starboard 87 BLACK BOX Review

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Created by Stev0 > 9 months ago, 30 Oct 2014
Stev0
419 posts
30 Oct 2014 6:08AM
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I have been riding the Starboard 87L Black Box for a year now and thought I can post a thorough review as it is different…very different! Even the marketing spiel points this out: “The Black Box is not a wave board for all conditions. It is not about top speed. It is not about jumping. The Black Box is the board that excels in small, mushy waves and light winds.”

So now we know what this thing is not good at - but WTF is this short, stubby thing with loads of junk in the trunk actually good at!?: Well first up, it is short …very short at 215cm and it is wide…very wide @62cm and has a tail width of a whopping 42.3cm! It has a flat deck and a wide stance that is really nice for wavesailing. It has a mono concave feeding into a flat double concave in the standing area for lift, quick acceleration and speed on the wave with Vee in the tail for a responsive feel when engaging the sharp rails and a fish style shape. (It is like the midget bastard lovechild of a year 2001 Starboard Fish waveboard and an old HyperSonic slalom board!?…see photos of the 87L Black Box next to its Dad the 90L Starboard Fish circa 2001) So how does it sail?...

Onshore: For on-shore wave riding in crappy gutless waves this thing does something a bit special – it generates loads of drive from the big concaves in the hull and the wide tail and ‘twin + trailer’ fin cluster. It gets really vert up the face when going up clew first and lets you unload all that torque off the top with a fast whippy top turn that is also rewarded with a unique weightless sensation, as the COE in the rig doesn’t have time to pull you over the front. So where other boards get bogged down in the top turn, on the BB you can crank turns so hard that you can end up sliding backwards off the nose on the wave at the end of the turn, but then the twin + trailer fins re-engage back on to a reach again - without needing to wrestle the rig around! Cool sensation and as close as I'll ever get to freestyle slides or Takas.

Side-shore: Finally got to sail it in side-shore, 20 knots and half-mast in Taranaki and was stoked with how it sailed in great down-the-line conditions. The BB is not designed for classic waveriding but coped well and the bottom turn was solid and the top turn was pretty slidey – but that was really fun in half-mast waves. Changing the front fins from the upright MB fins to a set of K4 Ezzy Asymmetric fins would really improve the DTL riding ability of the Black Box.

Blasting: Sailing in a straight line it is like a loose twin fin rather than a tri-fin and while it is quick to plane the top end is pretty slow and it’s not that exciting or engaging to sail around on. It sails like a freestyle board in a straight line and you have to sail it hard off the front foot as it so skatey off the back foot. It goes up wind ok with good technique. It has a few quirks like I find you can kind fall into 'holes' in the water where the nose will bury and get you hoisted over the front. In fact I haven’t been catapulted as much for a long time.

Jumping: The Black Box is ok for jumping but in dead onshores and into the wind I find it doesn't generate as much lift in the air compared to longer boards. Looping is fun when you get more side shore conditions as the compact shape really whips around fast with a reduced ‘swing weight'. So for me it is not a jumping board but with a decent ramp and more side shore angles it is fun.

Comparisons: Compared to a twin, tri or quad fin waveboard the Black Box is very different in the way it sails as it is basically designed to ride waves down wind and clew first in onshore conditions. It sort of surfs effortlessly on top of the water/wave rather and requires less effort and technique to do front side turns in onshore waves compared to standard waveboards that often need speed to bury the rail to really generate any drive in turns.

Verdict: It aint a plug'n'play board or very versatile like most waveboards these days as it is not designed to do a lot of things and for high wind bump’n’jump/blasting conditions it is rubbish. It is a specialist ‘quiver’ board for good sailors who prioritise wave riding but have to put up with wave riding crappy waves. If you only wavesail in onshores then it could be a good option but it also could be really fun for light wind days at sideshore spots but it has too much tail width for hardcore waves and/or high winds.

So overall, the Black Box makes onshore feel more sideshore and you look like ‘Brawzinho’ throwing buckets of spray…well makes me feel like I look like ‘Brawzinho’. Anyway…it does some very exciting and surprising things on mushy waves that you don't expect and that opens your mind to new angles of attack on the wave and it really does create new possibilities for onshore wave riding. In fact I have done turns I’ve never experienced before at onshore spots I have sailed for 25 years!

Check out what Danny Bruch can do with a Black Box in light winds and mushy waves which look more like Auckland than Maui!



The Black Box is a radical board for ****ty conditions! As they say, once you go black you…

Cheers, Stev-0

(By the way, I got the Black Box second hand while in the UK as an experiment, I am not a Starboard fanboy, just obsessed with waveboards, fins and new design concepts that keep me stoked on windsurfing – always something new to learn!)

Below are photos of the 87L Black Box 2014 next to its Dad the 90L Starboard Fish circa 2001...



Finn0
NSW, 50 posts
30 Oct 2014 1:21PM
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Great review Stev0,

Have a Black Box 107 myself, makes light wind 2/3ft cross on a lot of fun.

Found its pretty good in cross/cross off as well with a set of equal size thruster fins.







barn
WA, 2960 posts
30 Oct 2014 12:00PM
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Die hard seabreezers will remember I built this thing back in 2010. Much to the amusement of the local sailors, 215cm long, twin weed fin - black... I had a bit of a chuckle when I saw one of the Black Boxes in person..

It was about 107, and was perfect for sailing in 14cm of water. No nose meant there was nothing to smash into the sand while rotating through freestyle moves. Didn't cross my mind to try it in waves..

I ended up sanding the crappy stripe off and spraying a big CCCP? stencil.








Stev0
419 posts
30 Oct 2014 12:21PM
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Great shot of the BB hitting the lip! I also reckon setting it up as a proper tri fin for DTL wavesailing is the way to go. I used the stock MB fins in similar sized waves as in your photo and the top turn was too skatey really - but it made for some really fun lip slides and it recovers from the slides really well. I'd use 2x 12cm or 2x 14cm K4 Ezzy Asymmetrics with 2-degrees of toe-in and a similar sized symmetrical back fin. I have used this set up in onshore slop but for general use it was too draggy but the grip and torque in the turns was phenomenal! In side/side-off this set up would be way grippier in the bottom/top turns and could set the BB alight in half mast DTL riding conditions. Looking forward to trying this fin set up out again in proper DTL waves...

Stev0
419 posts
30 Oct 2014 12:29PM
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barn said..
Die hard seabreezers will remember I built this thing back in 2010. Much to the amusement of the local sailors, 215cm long, twin weed fin - black... I had a bit of a chuckle when I saw one of the Black Boxes in person..



Hmmmm...Barn could be on to something here……oppps, Starboard reinvented it!

IWB
210 posts
1 Nov 2014 8:20AM
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Great review Stevo,
There is not a whole lot of write ups on this BB 87L or 107L so great to see your solid input. My main interest if for messy onshore waves. How do you find getting back upwind after riding the waves in planning and non planning conditions?

Stev0
419 posts
1 Nov 2014 3:05PM
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IWB said..
Great review Stevo,
There is not a whole lot of write ups on this BB 87L or 107L so great to see your solid input. My main interest if for messy onshore waves. How do you find getting back upwind after riding the waves in planning and non planning conditions?



Thanks. I have read every review I could find before getting the BB and know from my experience they all agree on the abilities of the BB which is good. I sail it in very onshore crap and I'm always hunting for a wave wiggle so need to sail up wind a lot. The BB sails up wind pretty good but you need good technique as it is so skatey. I have been sailing a Mistral 2009 twin fin for ages so used to sailing up wind hard off the front foot. The BB needs the same technique - but this is important - because you can ride front side in on shores better than ever you also end up downwind further than you are used to so you need to haul yourself back up wind harder than before! I have done a few 'walks of shame' as I got too excited about hacking front side hits in parts of the wave and beach I'e never managed to do before and then run out of beach or got mowed down and washed in - but as I trudge back up beach I have a big grin on my face as managed to do a ride I've never done before at a beach I have been wavesailing at since 1984!

Knottedup
573 posts
27 Dec 2014 2:40PM
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Having sailed Finno's 107 Black Box for 45 minutes at the Mambo this board really does interest me.
Look at this years Mambo results:
Open Men's 1st Finno using the Big Black Box
2nd Tom White using the Big Black Box.
The conditions were three days of light side to side off winds in very nice waves.
These boards are designed to stay on top of the water. While all other boards bogged down as you were bearing away in light side shore. The same thing also happens a lot in onshore bear away bottom turns, especially when it's a bit light.I frankly love the way some companies, especially Starboard, are prepared to look at less than perfect Wavesailing conditions and find a way to make these conditions way more fun.
There is no way I'd have it as my one and only board. However if you lived at a place where light winds prevail and Xon is normal then maybe this is your go to board.
Let's face it these are what most Aussie wavesailors get most of the time.



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