Does anyone have experience with those foils?
I hear a lot of good things about them.
I am looking at the 1100 and the 900 for my 82kgs dry.
Can anyone tell me about the windrange of these foils?
This interests me as well. I'm a lake foiler so mostly flat water freeride with a focus on going fast and fluid transitions. Currently on sk8s and love them but keep wondering if I would benefit in anyway going to a higher aspect foll like the enduro for this style of foiling.
I am 90kg have the 700 and 900 with standard fuse and 142 silk tail. Mainly ride waves probably should have the Silks but they were way more expensive. The Enduros are really good at everything lots of lift, glide for ever but are stable and turn well. Highly recommend them. 900 gets up really easy so I am covered from 12 knots up using a 5m wing.
Select to expand quotepacoz said..
Does anyone have experience with those foils?
I hear a lot of good things about them.
I am looking at the 1100 and the 900 for my 82kgs dry.
Can anyone tell me about the windrange of these foils?
Comparison with KT on Damien LeRoy's Youtube channel with speeds.. Friend says Enduros are great and faster but has small preference for Silk in local swells and chop.
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I am 90kg have the 700 and 900 with standard fuse and 142 silk tail. Mainly ride waves probably should have the Silks but they were way more expensive. The Enduros are really good at everything lots of lift, glide for ever but are stable and turn well. Highly recommend them. 900 gets up really easy so I am covered from 12 knots up using a 5m wing.
Ok that's interesting. So I assume I can get the 1100 going under 10 kts maybe with a dw or midlength board.
Crazy how the perception about foil sizes change. In my mind a lightwind foil is still at least 1500cm2 - i guess that thought is outdated
I'm 87kg and I have demo'd the 700 Enduro and own the Silk lineup plus the Ultra 750.
I rode the Silk 650, Enduro 700, and Ultra 750, back to back to back on a big day. My takeaway was that if the Ultra 750 and Silk 650 had a baby it would be the Enduro 700. It's perfectly balanced between those two foils in speed, turning, glide, great takeoff. I think "balanced" is how I would describe them whereas the Silks are "extreme carving."
I should be doing a full Enduro quiver review in the spring but until then this is what I've been told:
Enduros are extremely user friendly all around foils with surprisingly good low end that perform extremely well on the high end.
All reports seem to say the Enduro 900 replaces the Silk 1050 for anyone who prefers glide over turns.
Very minimal reports about the 1100 that I've heard so far.
1300 apparently turns surprisingly well but more than anything it handles being overpowered really well. The day I demo'd the 700 I was told I could be out on the 1300 doing DW runs in the same big swell and still having fun.
I can imagine adding the bigger Enduros to my quiver next summer.
Select to expand quoteBWalnut said..
I'm 87kg and I have demo'd the 700 Enduro and own the Silk lineup plus the Ultra 750.
I rode the Silk 650, Enduro 700, and Ultra 750, back to back to back on a big day. My takeaway was that if the Ultra 750 and Silk 650 had a baby it would be the Enduro 700. It's perfectly balanced between those two foils in speed, turning, glide, great takeoff. I think "balanced" is how I would describe them whereas the Silks are "extreme carving."
I should be doing a full Enduro quiver review in the spring but until then this is what I've been told:
Enduros are extremely user friendly all around foils with surprisingly good low end that perform extremely well on the high end.
All reports seem to say the Enduro 900 replaces the Silk 1050 for anyone who prefers glide over turns.
Very minimal reports about the 1100 that I've heard so far.
1300 apparently turns surprisingly well but more than anything it handles being overpowered really well. The day I demo'd the 700 I was told I could be out on the 1300 doing DW runs in the same big swell and still having fun.
I can imagine adding the bigger Enduros to my quiver next summer.
1100 Enduro Review enjoy
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I had a write up here about the Enduro 1300 and Evo1650
www.pimpyourride.fr/forum-wingfoil/viewtopic.php?t=1800&start=20
I really considdering getting a 900 and 1100 for supfoil and maybe sell the Pure 1100 although I hate to sell stuff.
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I had a write up here about the Enduro 1300 and Evo1650
www.pimpyourride.fr/forum-wingfoil/viewtopic.php?t=1800&start=20
I really considdering getting a 900 and 1100 for supfoil and maybe sell the Pure 1100 although I hate to sell stuff.
Good stuff. How would you say it compares to the 1440? You said it's a huge step up but can you share a little more? The 1440 felt really stiff and slow to me.
First of all, we ride in quite different conditions :) Where I ride its Atlantic swell in the holidays, or slow shorter period, low energy wind generated Northsea-waves. I use the Kujira1440 with an Aloy Cedrus mast that is 19mm thick so that whole package is slower, but serious stiff.
I ride the Enduro 1300 and Evo1650 with the UHM80 mast that is a fraction less stiff but way less draggy so speedwise I can,t isolate it to just the frontwings. The whole AFS package feels in low end dragless and is faster compared to the Cedrus/Kujira set up, but not sure wich part has the biggest influence on the overal performance.With the E1300 I have clocked 30km p/h on a shoulderhigh slow wave, so the thing can go fast for its size. I never reaced that with the Kujira1440 and haven,t tried conditions like that with the Evo1650.
Lift:
The Kujira1440 has more initial raw lift and generates a lot more when on a steep wave. the faster it goes, the more front pressure you get.The E1300 has that effect less: less initial lift, so once you feel you have a bit of lift you have to pop it up a bit to take off where the 1440 pushes itself up. The Evo1650 has more initial lift than the E1300 but not as much as the Kujira and sits inbetween closer to the E1300 then to the 1440. Once on a wave, the lift of the E1300 is less progresive/ more controlable then the 1440, The Evo1650 sits inbeteween but is easier to get going in small waves and bumps then both.
Turning:The Evo1650 and 1440 are pretty much on par in turning radius and speed. The E1300 turns tighter on lower speeds, in higher speeds (28-30km p/h on a wave) its a bit harder to get of course but that is pretty much the same with the 1440 (havent used the Evo1650 in pushing conditions).
I also Use in Ocean swell my Pure1100. That one is a LOT faster but also need more speed before take off. When you are on the low end of the take off speed its wobly and nervous, once on speed a blast but for me in my conditions and being close to a 100kg more an wingfoil glidy conditions frontwing as an supfoil frontwing.
Can you give more comparison between the pure 1100 (which I know well) and the e1300? I find the 1100 fast but pretty pitchy. Also find the 1100 very locked into its own turn radius which I don't love (but is the nature of these wide span foils). How much less takeoff speed does the e1300 require vs the pure 1100? Thanks a lot
Also, which fuse, fuse setting and tail are you riding it with?
This is a really awesome breakdown/comparison. Thank you so much! Sounds like the 1300 could be a real gem for mellow gorge days where I'd probably be averaging 20kmh on it.
I'll try to report back in the spring when I get a chance on it.
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Can you give more comparison between the pure 1100 (which I know well) and the e1300? I find the 1100 fast but pretty pitchy. Also find the 1100 very locked into its own turn radius which I don't love (but is the nature of these wide span foils). How much less takeoff speed does the e1300 require vs the pure 1100? Thanks a lot
Also, which fuse, fuse setting and tail are you riding it with?
I just had today an awesome supfoil sess in shoulder to headhigh glassy waves with the E1300. a true treat here in the netherlands as groundswells are rare here.I,m using the medium fuse and HA43 tail. When the funds are there I wanna buy smaller (HA) tails.In this set up the E1300 is a lot less pitch sensitive as the 1100Pure and on low speeds easier to get of course and to change turn radius. Of course this is within a reasonable range. It won,t turn like a Silk1050, but I used other foils with a similar span that feel less maneuvrable.In feel: I need to turn the Pure1100 more from the hips, a bit flatter turning, while the E1300 can have just a normall technique with just a wider arc as an smaller foil like the Silk1050 but don, need to turn flattish.Regarding to the take-off. I don,t have exact numbers but especially when I Paddle up the 1300 is solid in slow waves while the Pure1100 is wobly and nervous till it got enough speed. In short period wind waves of lets say hiphigh i,m fine with the E1300 while I,m not able to paddle up the Pure1100. The difference is significant.
Again when I saved a bit (bought last month 3 new wings and have an Sunova Casey8.4x20x125l ariving in march) I wanna buy and try more different tails and seruously considder selling my Pure1100 and replave it for an E1100+E900.
For those who like to watch people ride gear to get insight I have a bunch of Youtube's on the 1300/HA43 with the UHM 80:
