Just got my 900/185 V2 Glide. Looking forward to first session on it. On the Duotone website they say that for the V2 Glides you want to choose a size that is the next size down from the previous Glide range to fully benefit from the enhancements of the Glide 2.0. Eg V2 900/185 is next size down from V1 1085/200.
I'm-not quite sure what they mean by this.
This sounds like they're saying that the size down in the V2 range from the size in the V1 range ,eg v2 900/185 from v1 1085/200, is equivalent. So if you have a v1 1085/200 and want the next size down but can only get V2 , getting the v2 900/185 would be a waste of money as the two wings are equivalent.
Obviously this is not what they're saying.
can someone please explain what they mean by this ? I'm assuming if you go down in size from V1 1085/200 to V2 900/185 there will be a significant difference in feel ? Ie increased wind range , at least on the top end, among other changes in performance. Sounds like bottom end range could be equivalent or close to v1 1085/200 due to design change ? Maybe this is what they're saying in the product description ?
Does anyone know about any of this ?
Also, why are the stab shims that come with a new V2 wingset cut off at the halfway point of the screw holes . This obviously leaves a gap between the stabilizer and the fuse throughout the area of the shim that has been shortened. Maybe I've got dud shims ?
Also , are the shims that come with the V2
glides the same that come with V1 Glides?
Ive been using the .25 & .50 shims on my V1 Glides that came with another model Fanatic Wingset I have. Either the Old Fanatic Flow or the Aero HA. They work fine but if the V2 Glide shims are the same as the V1 Glide shims then I might get better performance using those on my V1 Glides?
The degree amount is also slightly different for the V2 Glide shims than for the older Fanatic Flow or Aero HA shims I've been using on my V1 Glides( don't know why I wrote this paragraph)
Also do the Duotone shims have to be used with Duotone Stabs for the Glides ?
What's the situation with shim compatibility between V1 and V2 and Duotone and Fanatic stabs if that makes any sense ?
I just watched some you tube on this. This is what I got from it.
For a step down in size from v1 to v2 you nearly comparably have the same amount of lift , so you can use a smaller wing in less wind or the same amount of wind you used the 1085 in.
The deign changes also give this smaller size more glide and more speed in the same wind you would have used the 1085.
Because the area is less (900 vs 1085)you also have more manoeuvrability, but the design changes allow good or comparable stability to 1085.
Im hoping top end wind range is also increased. Maybe less drag than 1085 translates to this too.
The easiest thing would be for me to try both these wings back to back. Might do that this arvo.
If any one can add to or correct any of this feel free.
A few good you tubes from uk dealer, Nick Baker. there is a fb group Duotone & Fanatic foil riders.
I have just got a 900 and whizz 1000, only had one session on each though. Not sure about shims, let us know how you get on.
Select to expand quotergmacca said..
A few good you tubes from uk dealer, Nick Baker. there is a fb group Duotone & Fanatic foil riders.
I have just got a 900 and whizz 1000, only had one session on each though. Not sure about shims, let us know how you get on.
Thanks. Will do.
I had 905, 1085,1305 V1s, now got 750, 900 V2s and 1085V1 on 60 fuse. I sold the 1305 as after getting a 7m. I'm 88-90kg wet, can gybe and on a good day get most toe-to-heel footswaps, sometimes ride knee to head swells. Here are my impressions as well as a much better friend with same foils.
Duotone are talking about low-end lift and how easy they are to get onto foil. The 750 low end is like 850 V1 (if they made one) and the 900 like a 1000 V1. That might be conditions and gear, slogging into chop is noticeably harder to build take-off speed on 900 than 1085, hence feels like a 1000 V1, but in flat sections or running with chop much smaller difference as can build speed, so I kept 1085 for light winds. The 750 feels close to 905 as only used in strong winds so not problem getting speed despite chop.
Once up the 750 and 900 feel better in every way; smoother, less affected by turbulence, faster, and more gentle stall. With V1s I sometimes felt torsion in the Dlab 90 mast but haven't with (smaller span?) V2s. They are more roll and particularly pitch sensitive. I adapted to 900 in a session and got the 66 fuse for the 750 after trying a friends old 68 fuse with the 750 which was too pitch sensitive for me; I could sail 750 OK, but couldn't relax with 60 fuse so will use with 66 fuse.They take a bit of tuning to get mast and stance after V1s. My 90l board has plenty of track to move forward into but my friend has had to shim+0.3 to get front foot pressure after running out of box on Duotone Style 75l. I've not used V2s on my 2022 75l Style yet and might have same problem. I think 2024 onward Styles have boxes more forward so OK.
Duotone moved from full length shims to shorter. I didn't notice the gap in the missing half, the joins aren't seamless anyway.
Select to expand quotepatronus said..
I had 905, 1085,1305 V1s, now got 750, 900 V2s and 1085V1 on 60 fuse. I sold the 1305 as after getting a 7m. I'm 88-90kg wet, can gybe and on a good day get most toe-to-heel footswaps, sometimes ride knee to head swells. Here are my impressions as well as a much better friend with same foils.
Duotone are talking about low-end lift and how easy they are to get onto foil. The 750 low end is like 850 V1 (if they made one) and the 900 like a 1000 V1. That might be conditions and gear, slogging into chop is noticeably harder to build take-off speed on 900 than 1085, hence feels like a 1000 V1, but in flat sections or running with chop much smaller difference as can build speed, so I kept 1085 for light winds. The 750 feels close to 905 as only used in strong winds so not problem getting speed despite chop.
Once up the 750 and 900 feel better in every way; smoother, less affected by turbulence, faster, and more gentle stall. With V1s I sometimes felt torsion in the Dlab 90 mast but haven't with (smaller span?) V2s. They are more roll and particularly pitch sensitive. I adapted to 900 in a session and got the 66 fuse for the 750 after trying a friends old 68 fuse with the 750 which was too pitch sensitive for me; I could sail 750 OK, but couldn't relax with 60 fuse so will use with 66 fuse.They take a bit of tuning to get mast and stance after V1s. My 90l board has plenty of track to move forward into but my friend has had to shim+0.3 to get front foot pressure after running out of box on Duotone Style 75l. I've not used V2s on my 2022 75l Style yet and might have same problem. I think 2024 onward Styles have boxes more forward so OK.
Duotone moved from full length shims to shorter. I didn't notice the gap in the missing half, the joins aren't seamless anyway.
Thanks for the info. Sounds like I might still get some use from my 1085 V1. Looking forward to my first session on the V2 900 tommorrow.
Select to expand quoteSambo # said..patronus said..
I had 905, 1085,1305 V1s, now got 750, 900 V2s and 1085V1 on 60 fuse. I sold the 1305 as after getting a 7m. I'm 88-90kg wet, can gybe and on a good day get most toe-to-heel footswaps, sometimes ride knee to head swells. Here are my impressions as well as a much better friend with same foils.
Duotone are talking about low-end lift and how easy they are to get onto foil. The 750 low end is like 850 V1 (if they made one) and the 900 like a 1000 V1. That might be conditions and gear, slogging into chop is noticeably harder to build take-off speed on 900 than 1085, hence feels like a 1000 V1, but in flat sections or running with chop much smaller difference as can build speed, so I kept 1085 for light winds. The 750 feels close to 905 as only used in strong winds so not problem getting speed despite chop.
Once up the 750 and 900 feel better in every way; smoother, less affected by turbulence, faster, and more gentle stall. With V1s I sometimes felt torsion in the Dlab 90 mast but haven't with (smaller span?) V2s. They are more roll and particularly pitch sensitive. I adapted to 900 in a session and got the 66 fuse for the 750 after trying a friends old 68 fuse with the 750 which was too pitch sensitive for me; I could sail 750 OK, but couldn't relax with 60 fuse so will use with 66 fuse.They take a bit of tuning to get mast and stance after V1s. My 90l board has plenty of track to move forward into but my friend has had to shim+0.3 to get front foot pressure after running out of box on Duotone Style 75l. I've not used V2s on my 2022 75l Style yet and might have same problem. I think 2024 onward Styles have boxes more forward so OK.
Duotone moved from full length shims to shorter. I didn't notice the gap in the missing half, the joins aren't seamless anyway.
Thanks for the info. Sounds like I might still get some use from my 1085 V1. Looking forward to my first session on the V2 900 tommorrow.
I'm curious how you positioned the mast and stance. I used 900 V2 for first time on 2022? Sky Style 75l yesterday and with mast at front of box my stance was far back on board. Adding a +0.3deg shim helped a lot in standing closer to footstrap positions.
Select to expand quotepatronus said..Sambo # said..patronus said..
I had 905, 1085,1305 V1s, now got 750, 900 V2s and 1085V1 on 60 fuse. I sold the 1305 as after getting a 7m. I'm 88-90kg wet, can gybe and on a good day get most toe-to-heel footswaps, sometimes ride knee to head swells. Here are my impressions as well as a much better friend with same foils.
Duotone are talking about low-end lift and how easy they are to get onto foil. The 750 low end is like 850 V1 (if they made one) and the 900 like a 1000 V1. That might be conditions and gear, slogging into chop is noticeably harder to build take-off speed on 900 than 1085, hence feels like a 1000 V1, but in flat sections or running with chop much smaller difference as can build speed, so I kept 1085 for light winds. The 750 feels close to 905 as only used in strong winds so not problem getting speed despite chop.
Once up the 750 and 900 feel better in every way; smoother, less affected by turbulence, faster, and more gentle stall. With V1s I sometimes felt torsion in the Dlab 90 mast but haven't with (smaller span?) V2s. They are more roll and particularly pitch sensitive. I adapted to 900 in a session and got the 66 fuse for the 750 after trying a friends old 68 fuse with the 750 which was too pitch sensitive for me; I could sail 750 OK, but couldn't relax with 60 fuse so will use with 66 fuse.They take a bit of tuning to get mast and stance after V1s. My 90l board has plenty of track to move forward into but my friend has had to shim+0.3 to get front foot pressure after running out of box on Duotone Style 75l. I've not used V2s on my 2022 75l Style yet and might have same problem. I think 2024 onward Styles have boxes more forward so OK.
Duotone moved from full length shims to shorter. I didn't notice the gap in the missing half, the joins aren't seamless anyway.
Thanks for the info. Sounds like I might still get some use from my 1085 V1. Looking forward to my first session on the V2 900 tommorrow.
I'm curious how you positioned the mast and stance. I used 900 V2 for first time on 2022? Sky Style 75l yesterday and with mast at front of box my stance was far back on board. Adding a +0.3deg shim helped a lot in standing closer to footstrap positions.
For my first two sessions I've had my mast in the same position I have it for my V1's, which is 4cm back from fully forward position. ( 60L V2 Cabrinha Code) This gave me my normal stance/ foot placement on my board ,but I think I might need to move it back a little bit as it felt a bit lifty at times. The wind was a pretty gusty wnw though so I'm not sure. Some times it also felt pretty good when nicely powered in the 4cm back from front of box position. So need to play around with it a bit.
I haven't used the V1 1085 a lot. I've had some fun sessions on it though and can say that the V2 900 feels , for me at least anyway, very different, but in a good way. Felt faster, smoother ( I think this is less drag), more manoeuvrable and easy take offs with out too much effort. Will be good to play around with some tuning in more consistent wind over the summer.
Select to expand quoteSambo # said..rgmacca said..
A few good you tubes from uk dealer, Nick Baker. there is a fb group Duotone & Fanatic foil riders.
I have just got a 900 and whizz 1000, only had one session on each though. Not sure about shims, let us know how you get on.
Thanks. Will do.
Just had my first session on 900 in a decent sea breeze. These wings are AWESOME !!! 
Hi how much less drag and more.efficient is the new V2 compared.to.V1 and other leading.brand, such as armstrong
Is.the duotone foil as.good.quality as.other brand.such as F-one,.armstrong and.axxis
Select to expand quoteSurfmad said..
Hi how much less drag and more.efficient is the new V2 compared.to.V1 and other leading.brand, such as armstrong
Is.the duotone foil as.good.quality as.other brand.such as F-one,.armstrong and.axxis
The following info is based on foiling on relatively flat fresh water on a lake.
I can't comment on other brands as I've only ever used Fanatic and now Duotone. Apart from the V1 Glides that I'm currently using along with the V2 Glide 900, the other wings I've used are Fanatic Flows, Fanatic Aero HA and Aero Free, and without a doubt I definitely prefer the V2 900 over these wings.
As I've only had one session on the 900 in one decent Seabreeze, i can't really say how much less drag and more efficient it feels than the V1's generally, as I've mainly ridden the V1 725 and much less so the 1085 and 1305.
I will say that generally speaking it (V2 900) feels quite a bit nicer in every way than my larger size V1's. I can't make a comparison to V1 725 yet.
The V2 900 definitely feels very glidey (not sure about spelling there) and it's definitely very efficient if you use the explanation of foil wing efficiency I got from Chat gpt.
It's a pretty smooth and sweet ride when nicely powered, and I definitely prefer the feel from V2 over V1. It's not hard to make that decision either. Not to take anything away from the V1, but in my opinion that's how much better the V2's are. To me they feel like they have quite a bit better all round performance.
Im getting a new quiver asap !
Hi! I can compare the Glide V2 900 and 1100 with other foils like Axis Art 999, North SF 930, Unifoil progression 170 and Armstrong HA 980 and I can say they are in no way inferior. The glide V2 can compete in both, quality and performance. Ofc every foil is different at least. But I think DT is Up to date with there foil.
I have to say the 3Bs Fuselage is pretty well done. The screw inserts are equipped with steal helicoils out of the box. Thumbs up for this as I had troubles with other brands in the past.
When it comes to foiling glide, lift and speed of the glide V2 are great. Breaching behavior is good and turnability also nice. I tried the 900 in different condition like turbulent knee high wind chop at north sea, lightwind and also heavy gusty lake conditions. I can say I didn't miss anything. Ofc in turbulent whitewater foils like the carve or Spitefire are better but this is the same for other high Aspect foils.
What I really want to point out at least is the glide, lift and stall speed. I had one session where I used the handwing just to go upwind and then foiled downwind on the 900 in the wind chop for long distance. That was a pretty cool session. Sorry at least for the formulation here as english isn't my mother tongue.
Anyone have feed back on the V2 1350.
I have 900 and whizz 1000.
looking for a nice light wind foil, I did use Axis 1050 hps from about 8knts with mid length board at 82kgs.
Anyone have feed back on the V2 1350.
I have 900 and whizz 1000.
looking for a nice light wind foil, I did use Axis 1050 hps from about 8knts with mid length board at 82kgs.
I like light wind foiling and have the 1350.
Me 74kg plus wetsuit etc, with 7m Dlab Ventis I can foil on lake water from 6kn and a bit less once on the foil. I have done 18kn speed in upto 8/9 kn wind.
I also have to 900 and 750, 750 is my 80% go atm.
Select to expand quoteSurfmad said..
Hi how much less drag and more.efficient is the new V2 compared.to.V1 and other leading.brand, such as armstrong
Is.the duotone foil as.good.quality as.other brand.such as F-one,.armstrong and.axxis
The V2 900 glides further than V1 905 and 1085 in weak, knee/thigh swells. In head high swells I was over-foiled on 900, 750 was much better (88kg wet) and with 66 fuse pitch stable for my skills. Once riding swells they both feel smooth and manoeuvrable particularly if you use 60 fuse with 900.
Hi
So the glide V2 is better in every aspect. THANKS!
If the upgrade from V1 to V2 is let say 100% improvement, what would you say in % improvement to take the foilset of V2 from SLS to Dlab ?
DLAB slim mast and dlab fuse.
Select to expand quotewarwickl said..
I like light wind foiling and have the 1350.
Me 74kg plus wetsuit etc, with 7m Dlab Ventis I can foil on lake water from 6kn and a bit less once on the foil. I have done 18kn speed in upto 8/9 kn wind.
I also have to 900 and 750, 750 is my 80% go atm.
Thanks for info. so 1350 and 900 a good combo. were you tempted by the Whizz as light wind foil?
Select to expand quoteSurfmad said..
Hi
So the glide V2 is better in every aspect. THANKS!
If the upgrade from V1 to V2 is let say 100% improvement, what would you say in % improvement to take the foilset of V2 from SLS to Dlab ?
DLAB slim mast and dlab fuse.
Never used DLab foils and suspect I don't push hard enough to find benefit. The V2s are a bit less pitch stable, and roll (less span).
I noticed some torsion on old DLab mast with V1 1085, but not V2 900.
Select to expand quoteSurfmad said..
Hi
So the glide V2 is better in every aspect. THANKS!
If the upgrade from V1 to V2 is let say 100% improvement, what would you say in % improvement to take the foilset of V2 from SLS to Dlab ?
DLAB slim mast and dlab fuse.
I'd say 30% improvement dlab over slsSelect to expand quotergmacca said..warwickl said..
I like light wind foiling and have the 1350.
Me 74kg plus wetsuit etc, with 7m Dlab Ventis I can foil on lake water from 6kn and a bit less once on the foil. I have done 18kn speed in upto 8/9 kn wind.
I also have to 900 and 750, 750 is my 80% go atm.
Thanks for info. so 1350 and 900 a good combo. were you tempted by the Whizz as light wind foil?
I went back on Whizz 850 today after riding Glide2 dlab 750 in light winds last month and the Whizz felt slow and draggy but way looser and tighter turns. if you want to do tight turns in the pocket on small waves then the Whizz 850 is better. if you want to ride bumps and glide or do arcing speed turns on bigger waves the Glide 750 is better. Low end is about the same, stall speed lower on Whizz 850, Glide dlab 750 way faster. I use both with short fuse and s165 tail, +0.3 shim when using on glide
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Is the 30% improvement noticeable for a very average lake windwing foiler?
Also what are the improvement characteristics?
I am trying to decide if the additional expense is worth it for me.
Select to expand quoteleepasty said..Surfmad said..
Hi
So the glide V2 is better in every aspect. THANKS!
If the upgrade from V1 to V2 is let say 100% improvement, what would you say in % improvement to take the foilset of V2 from SLS to Dlab ?
DLAB slim mast and dlab fuse.
I'd say 30% improvement dlab over slsrgmacca said..warwickl said..
I like light wind foiling and have the 1350.
Me 74kg plus wetsuit etc, with 7m Dlab Ventis I can foil on lake water from 6kn and a bit less once on the foil. I have done 18kn speed in upto 8/9 kn wind.
I also have to 900 and 750, 750 is my 80% go atm.
Thanks for info. so 1350 and 900 a good combo. were you tempted by the Whizz as light wind foil?
I went back on Whizz 850 today after riding Glide2 dlab 750 in light winds last month and the Whizz felt slow and draggy but way looser and tighter turns. if you want to do tight turns in the pocket on small waves then the Whizz 850 is better. if you want to ride bumps and glide or do arcing speed turns on bigger waves the Glide 750 is better. Low end is about the same, stall speed lower on Whizz 850, Glide dlab 750 way faster. I use both with short fuse and s165 tail, +0.3 shim when using on glide
www.instagram.com/reel/DDC6w3coZU0/?igsh=Z2p1YzZrY3Zrenpj
Lee, why shim 750 and just not move mast forward? Is that with 60 fuse? Do you shim 900 too?
Select to expand quotepatronus said..leepasty said..Surfmad said..
Hi
So the glide V2 is better in every aspect. THANKS!
If the upgrade from V1 to V2 is let say 100% improvement, what would you say in % improvement to take the foilset of V2 from SLS to Dlab ?
DLAB slim mast and dlab fuse.
I'd say 30% improvement dlab over slsrgmacca said..warwickl said..
I like light wind foiling and have the 1350.
Me 74kg plus wetsuit etc, with 7m Dlab Ventis I can foil on lake water from 6kn and a bit less once on the foil. I have done 18kn speed in upto 8/9 kn wind.
I also have to 900 and 750, 750 is my 80% go atm.
Thanks for info. so 1350 and 900 a good combo. were you tempted by the Whizz as light wind foil?
I went back on Whizz 850 today after riding Glide2 dlab 750 in light winds last month and the Whizz felt slow and draggy but way looser and tighter turns. if you want to do tight turns in the pocket on small waves then the Whizz 850 is better. if you want to ride bumps and glide or do arcing speed turns on bigger waves the Glide 750 is better. Low end is about the same, stall speed lower on Whizz 850, Glide dlab 750 way faster. I use both with short fuse and s165 tail, +0.3 shim when using on glide
www.instagram.com/reel/DDC6w3coZU0/?igsh=Z2p1YzZrY3Zrenpj
Lee, why shim 750 and just not move mast forward? Is that with 60 fuse? Do you shim 900 too?
30% improvement is due to less drag, more speed and stiffer.
shimming tail is for winging where the + shim helps due to speed. I find the +0.3 shim better with the h tails on the glides but prefer the s tail as it is way looser in turn and similar speed. My new fave on the 750 dlab is s145 with +0.3 still prefer the s165 on 620 as gives lower stall speed, I am 87kg
The h tail is better for pumping though so if you downwind paddle or prone use h tail with no shim if wing and are over 80kg use +0.3 shim.
the shim gets rid of the twitchiness when winging and allows you to go faster and turn harder due to being more locked in. this is with short fuse 60/37 dlab
im making a video on shimming tails will be out soon 
Select to expand quoteleepasty said..patronus said..leepasty said..Surfmad said..
Hi
So the glide V2 is better in every aspect. THANKS!
If the upgrade from V1 to V2 is let say 100% improvement, what would you say in % improvement to take the foilset of V2 from SLS to Dlab ?
DLAB slim mast and dlab fuse.
I'd say 30% improvement dlab over slsrgmacca said..warwickl said..
I like light wind foiling and have the 1350.
Me 74kg plus wetsuit etc, with 7m Dlab Ventis I can foil on lake water from 6kn and a bit less once on the foil. I have done 18kn speed in upto 8/9 kn wind.
I also have to 900 and 750, 750 is my 80% go atm.
Thanks for info. so 1350 and 900 a good combo. were you tempted by the Whizz as light wind foil?
I went back on Whizz 850 today after riding Glide2 dlab 750 in light winds last month and the Whizz felt slow and draggy but way looser and tighter turns. if you want to do tight turns in the pocket on small waves then the Whizz 850 is better. if you want to ride bumps and glide or do arcing speed turns on bigger waves the Glide 750 is better. Low end is about the same, stall speed lower on Whizz 850, Glide dlab 750 way faster. I use both with short fuse and s165 tail, +0.3 shim when using on glide
www.instagram.com/reel/DDC6w3coZU0/?igsh=Z2p1YzZrY3Zrenpj
Lee, why shim 750 and just not move mast forward? Is that with 60 fuse? Do you shim 900 too?
30% improvement is due to less drag, more speed and stiffer.
shimming tail is for winging where the + shim helps due to speed. I find the +0.3 shim better with the h tails on the glides but prefer the s tail as it is way looser in turn and similar speed. My new fave on the 750 dlab is s145 with +0.3 still prefer the s165 on 620 as gives lower stall speed, I am 87kg
The h tail is better for pumping though so if you downwind paddle or prone use h tail with no shim if wing and are over 80kg use +0.3 shim.
the shim gets rid of the twitchiness when winging and allows you to go faster and turn harder due to being more locked in. this is with short fuse 60/37 dlab
im making a video on shimming tails will be out soon
Thanks for the Tip leepasty i tried the + 0.3 Shim on the 1450 Whizz and the 60 cm fuse and it really stabilised the pitching sensitivity and still had the same playfulness
