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New F-One Midlength Foil Board

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Created by Zasby 5 months ago, 12 Aug 2024
Zasby
WA, 59 posts
12 Aug 2024 5:38PM
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F-One is launching a new midlength foil board on August 19th. You can see some early details and a video review of the board (particularly how it compares to the Armstrong midlength) @ Foilers-community.com

foilers-community.com/2024-f-one-rocket-midlength-board/

You can also sign up to join the FOILERS COMMUNITY on the site, for news on all the latest product releases across the foiling gear brands. There are quite a few new products being launched in September in line with the AWSI event, which kicks off on September 4th in Hood River. Should be interesting : )

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Mikedubs
230 posts
12 Aug 2024 5:46PM
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They've been out for a couple of months???!

Zasby
WA, 59 posts
12 Aug 2024 6:06PM
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They are not on the F-One website yet? but yes people like Oceanbound have been testing them.

MilesH
165 posts
12 Aug 2024 11:33PM
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Foil track looks short compared to a lot of boards these days (10inch?)

Mikedubs
230 posts
13 Aug 2024 12:10AM
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Zasby said..
They are not on the F-One website yet? but yes people like Oceanbound have been testing them.


I've owned mine for 2 months plus?

miamiwngr
71 posts
13 Aug 2024 2:24AM
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Smallest volume is 78l. I think they're totally missing the mark on this one. The whole point of the mid length in my opinion is that you get an efficient board so you can get rid of volume. The largest armstrong mid is 85. I'm riding a 60l mid length myself in most conditions.

Retina
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13 Aug 2024 4:26AM
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Smallest volume is 78l. I think they're totally missing the mark on this one. The whole point of the mid length in my opinion is that you get an efficient board so you can get rid of volume. The largest armstrong mid is 85. I'm riding a 60l mid length myself in most conditions.


Weight? - 10l best?

northy1
451 posts
13 Aug 2024 4:10PM
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Mikedubs said..

Zasby said..
They are not on the F-One website yet? but yes people like Oceanbound have been testing them.



I've owned mine for 2 months plus?


Whats the feedback Mike?

northy1
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13 Aug 2024 4:17PM
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Smallest volume is 78l. I think they're totally missing the mark on this one. The whole point of the mid length in my opinion is that you get an efficient board so you can get rid of volume. The largest armstrong mid is 85. I'm riding a 60l mid length myself in most conditions.



Depend on if you are wanting this as a single do it all board, or if you want a ML board to complement a smaller one? (and dont want a 7ft plus DW board)
I for example (86kg) use a 70 rocket S as my only board....so interested in the 105 (maybe 90) as a light wind complement to the 70 (and then could potentially swap 70 for even smaller...)

Mikedubs
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13 Aug 2024 6:07PM
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Mikedubs said..


Zasby said..
They are not on the F-One website yet? but yes people like Oceanbound have been testing them.




I've owned mine for 2 months plus?



Whats the feedback Mike?


It's great, I've owned 54l rocket S before and Amos nitro 60l. I then got a 65l Amos sultan prone, which is awesome, and got the 90l f one midlength as a light wind board.
I'm finding though, I'm riding it most of the time as its just so easy, and only marginally less responsive than the Sultan.

I am tempted to sell both and just get the 78l midlength as a one board quiver.

Another good rider who rides a 48l rocket S, and same weight as me 80kg, rides his 105l midlength all the time now.

NordRoi
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13 Aug 2024 9:18PM
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miamiwngr said..
Smallest volume is 78l. I think they're totally missing the mark on this one. The whole point of the mid length in my opinion is that you get an efficient board so you can get rid of volume. The largest armstrong mid is 85. I'm riding a 60l mid length myself in most conditions.




Weight? - 10l best?



For me a mid-length is a board for mediocre conditions...low wind...or super gusty wind with lulls and you need to stand on the board and schlog. For the comparaison of army vs f-one...I think army decided to make a board for winging and surfing and the trade-off is you cannot really fulfill for what I'm looking for, unless you are 75kg and less. A mediocre conditions board that will bring you home when the wind shut down or practicing moves and don't be afraid to come out off foil because the lull are too long to get you up on foil when the wind sucks...and for my local inland spot...this is 90% of my conditions.It's a cross between a shortbard and a DW...where army is more a cross of a shortboard and a surfboard with less width. So if surfing is in your parameters, army might be better.I'm really happy with my short and compact board when wind is good...when wind is relatively constant, get on foil is not an issue.So to answer your question...what is a good volume. Depend what you are aiming for. Is you are jumping and throwing tricks, the smaller the better...if it's a board to wave rider, get up early...pass whitewater schloging...it needs to be at least your weight...to your weight + 10-15. I think swing weight and delay in response was more an issue with older boards with foil track really far back or foil brand who were mounting back in the track...with a lot of nose and foam in front of the track...now... 65L or 90L...not a super big difference on how fun is the board on foil.

northy1
451 posts
13 Aug 2024 10:28PM
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thanks for the feedback Mike, NordRoi - i (@86kg and will have 3mm to 6mm wetty) going to spk to my importer to see about the 105 i think

5'8 x 19.0'' / 172.7 x 48.3 cm / 78 L
5'10 x 20.0'' / 177.8 x 50.8 cm / 90 L
6'0 x 21.0'' / 182.9 x 53.3 cm / 105 L
6'2 x 22.0'' / 188.0 x 55.9 cm / 120 L

northy1
451 posts
13 Aug 2024 10:32PM
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Or would the 120 be better as i can Sup foil it also?(i already Sup surf, using a 8'3 x 29" 113 liter JP Surf pro - dont think i could use the ML 105 unless it was glassy)

Mikedubs
230 posts
13 Aug 2024 11:32PM
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Depends what you want to do with it. If SUP too more volume, light wind 105, all round 90/78 depending on your conditions.

They're good in light, gusty and strong winds especially 19/20 wide ones and I have just as much board in front of the mast on my 90l as I did with my 54l rocket S.

Other great benefit, as they foil up quick is you can ride a smaller foil and or wing. Like today, I was out on my 90l early 20' s knots, with lulls, I was on 3.6 flux and 850 sk8, on my rocket S I'd have been on 4.3 flux and 1050.

Mike

Thatspec
383 posts
Thursday , 23 Jan 2025 2:50AM
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Apologies to bring this back to the top but there's no hands on info out there, just marketing fluff that contradicts itself.

Did anyone ever get a real world weight on the 2024 78L? Or any of them?

I'm assuming the "light bamboo construction" is the same on the '25s so they should be similar weights as the like volume. I like the shape of the '25 82L for parawing.

Suspicious the way their marketing photos show a custom like finish with "something black" showing through... There's not an ounce of carbon in the board according to the brochure. Then the AWSI video shows it with a standard solid orange finish.

My guess would be the 78L was about 6Kg, can anyone confirm?

Thatspec
383 posts
Thursday , 23 Jan 2025 2:10PM
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Did find the weight of the 105 L in a Gleiten tv video at 6.2 kg, quite a bit lighter than I expected. That could mean that the 78 L was as light as 5.2 kg?

MrPieMan
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Thursday , 23 Jan 2025 3:24PM
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Interestingly I found this somewhere on the internet and looks like F-One are changing the design for 2025 and also introducing a crossover board



Mikedubs
230 posts
Thursday , 23 Jan 2025 3:24PM
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New ones out in April, narrower and longer plus the crossover boards, wider and shorter, they look good.

northy1
451 posts
Thursday , 23 Jan 2025 5:36PM
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Interesting!

Crossover could be the single do it all board?

(I have a 70 rocketS and was thinking about getting a 120 mid length to pair with it for light winds and also potentially sup foil as well but now wondering if I can be bothered and just stick with one board eg a 83 crossover?)

I'm about 85kg...90kg in winter wetty etc

Thatspec
383 posts
Thursday , 23 Jan 2025 5:48PM
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I was promised mid March in Europe on the 82L but we know how that goes....

Was also promised an Ensis Pwing mid December... then mid Jan...

Still would be interested to know the weight of the 2024 78L. I'm seriously considering another Aero (skywalker) custom. Same dimensions roughly and the 75L is 4.9Kg even with handle and inserts. I'd go without and it should come in around 4.5Kg. A little cheaper, it's got at least one complete carbon layer and the core is semi hollow XPS. It's not on their website yet, just the previous version.

Bob_along
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Thursday , 23 Jan 2025 7:49PM
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So, longer and narrower than the 2024 version (which I thought were already pretty narrow compared to some). I suppose these changes help justify the inclusion of the crossover range. Does the 2025 mid-length still have the stepped bottom?

Thatspec
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Friday , 24 Jan 2025 2:52AM
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So, longer and narrower than the 2024 version (which I thought were already pretty narrow compared to some). I suppose these changes help justify the inclusion of the crossover range. Does the 2025 mid-length still have the stepped bottom?


They eliminated the forward step to accomodate a foil drive

Thatspec
383 posts
Sunday , 25 Jan 2025 11:02PM
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Still looking for the weight of the '24 78L

Here's the whole catalog;
drive.google.com/file/d/1U3vu_XSZ-sAyC9BRZW8lltOOTsAnSlZ3/view?usp=sharing

NikOnFoil
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Sunday , 26 Jan 2025 5:07PM
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Still looking for the weight of the '24 78L



The 5'10 I had on the scales matched the F-One specification on the website pretty closely. I would assume the same applies to the 5'8. The shape of the F-One Midlength 2024 is very easy to ride due to the boxy design, but gets going noticeably later than the KT Ginxu Super K or Armstrong Midlength.

northy1
451 posts
Sunday , 26 Jan 2025 6:56PM
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Why do you think it's slower to get going than the KT and Army? What's the design considerations?

I might look for a 2nd hand KT (assuming they work with Fone foils)

Mikedubs
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Sunday , 26 Jan 2025 8:41PM
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Been on my mates armstrong, didn't feel it got going any quicker.

JakeDawg69
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Sunday , 26 Jan 2025 9:12PM
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Why do you think it's slower to get going than the KT and Army? What's the design considerations?

I might look for a 2nd hand KT (assuming they work with Fone foils)


My friend has the KT SuperK 80L and the whole range of Fone foils. It works fine. Great board. He also has an Omen Flux 60L. I have the Omen 60 and 84. Great boards. Quick get up. The 84 is my all around board but at 95 kg, it's not a light wind slogger. I have to be patient and wait to get enough wind to stand but once I'm standing it shoots up quickly. If you weigh less than 84L, it would be a good light wind alternative. Same idea goes with the KT. If you live in a place where the wind is consistent, even if a little light, then a ML board about 10L below your weight is a one board quiver. I use my 84L 75% of the time while my 60 L needs high, consistent wind over 20 knots which is rare where I live. I did buy the Fone 105L ML for super light wind but it doesn't offer me any advantages over my 84L. It doesn't get up quicker and it's a pain to slog. ML boards 10L under your weight are good to go if you get a 11 knot gust if you know how to pump. Otherwise for super light wind, go for the Dragonfly.

Thatspec
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Monday , 26 Jan 2025 11:17PM
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Thatspec said..
Still looking for the weight of the '24 78L





The 5'10 I had on the scales matched the F-One specification on the website pretty closely. I would assume the same applies to the 5'8. The shape of the F-One Midlength 2024 is very easy to ride due to the boxy design, but gets going noticeably later than the KT Ginxu Super K or Armstrong Midlength.



Thanks! So 5.1Kg for the 78L. I'll expect no more than 5.3 for the 82L then. I'd be happy enough with this. The 2025 is significantly higher aspect than the '24 so should get up even quicker.



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