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AC 2024

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Created by Brent in Qld 9 months ago, 14 Apr 2024
fangman
WA, 1712 posts
14 Oct 2024 4:20AM
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Agreed, plenty clinical. Pick the right headsail, be aggressive at the start seems to have INEOS on the back foot.

Brent in Qld
WA, 1120 posts
14 Oct 2024 2:21PM
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Saw a striking similarity to SF this morning with a NZ article discussing why the Cup should be raced in AKL next go round! Talk about tempting fate...

Shifu
QLD, 1987 posts
14 Oct 2024 8:06PM
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515 said..

Called the kiwi commentator a "****en wanker"


Well, to be fair, I wish he'd shut the **** up too.

Brent in Qld
WA, 1120 posts
14 Oct 2024 9:48PM
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The rout continues, ETNZ making it look easy at 4-0. Day off tomoz, a GB regroup, then a single race on Wednesday.

fangman
WA, 1712 posts
15 Oct 2024 2:04AM
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Was interesting for the first leg, but the Kiwis seem close to perfection on all counts. As per previous posts; clinical execution and win.

Brent in Qld
WA, 1120 posts
16 Oct 2024 3:31PM
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Have heard that the race committee are aiming to get a result this weekend, ideally finishing Sunday. Appears if ETNZ pickup 2 wins today the next racing might be Sunday, all weather dependant and day to day.

515
822 posts
16 Oct 2024 6:27PM
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Shifu said..

515 said..

Called the kiwi commentator a "****en wanker"



Well, to be fair, I wish he'd shut the **** up too.


Agree he's a dick, bit pretentious. He used to be a NZ Sky Sports presenter and league game new sideline commentator goes over to you Steve and his reply was "Best you call me Stephen", the sideline guy never returned!

I enjoy Glenn and Shirley's comments as they are sailors. But also listen to onboard comments and kiwis are talking with more input from trimmers. Along with Pistol Pete and Nathan (he's really a kiwi now!).

Yeah Brent, they want to finish during a weekend for local support.

TBH I'm a bit concerned Ineos will win races after the rest day!
Study Mossy Sail latest video on the difference with tacking speed and adapt to be faster.

Brent in Qld
WA, 1120 posts
16 Oct 2024 10:41PM
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F'n game on people. One day off, nervs gone and bit between the teeth. Kiwis have there SF faces on...

Brent in Qld
WA, 1120 posts
17 Oct 2024 3:11PM
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So 4-2 with another lay day. Boot is on the ETNZ foot to regroup after the 2 losses. It looked like coming off the foils pre-start in race 5 was the result of over confidence for ETNZ. Just trying too much in tricky light conditions. They handed GB the opportunity and it was just the tonic they needed. Race 6 was the strongest start for GB and they did not look back.

So a day off for ETNZ to collect themselves. They need 3 wins to lift the cup, half the races on offer this Fri-Sat-Sun. GB are in the fast lane now and need to stay composed to gather 5 more wins.

There is a decider scheduled for Monday if necessary. Hopefully this weekend should see a great contest unfold.

fangman
WA, 1712 posts
17 Oct 2024 8:03PM
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You could almost hear the collective groan from the crowd when the Kiwis fell off the foils at the start after a late entry into the box.
I have got so used to seeing the boats just charging around regardless, I was a bit surprised the sloppy sea state and light wind was such a challenge. Boat speed of 4 x wind speed still seems outrageous to me.
Now I am a bit nervous for the Kiwis.

Brent in Qld
WA, 1120 posts
18 Oct 2024 10:21PM
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What a day!






515
822 posts
19 Oct 2024 5:01AM
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Must be awesome to be there
One more race to win but keeping it cool and realistic that kiwis may still lose races.

Brent in Qld
WA, 1120 posts
20 Oct 2024 12:46AM
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And that's all she wrote for AC 2024. ETNZ too strong in the end on a beautiful Barcelona day. Ineos have nothing to be ashamed about with tight racing and improvement all the way. Enormous crowds all being well behaved and great comradery amongst all the supporters.
Caio until next time.

Shifu
QLD, 1987 posts
20 Oct 2024 8:07PM
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Kiwis just faster and smarter in all respects. The number of times they were able to find the strongest wind on the course was almost unnatural.

Brent in Qld
WA, 1120 posts
20 Oct 2024 11:38PM
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Kiwis just faster and smarter in all respects. The number of times they were able to find the strongest wind on the course was almost unnatural.



Nothing unnatural, their names are Roger Badham off the water and Nathan Outterage on the boat.

Shifu
QLD, 1987 posts
21 Oct 2024 1:12PM
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Brent in Qld said..

Nothing unnatural, their names are Roger Badham off the water and Nathan Outterage on the boat.


Two Australians. AC is such a cosmopolitan sport.

Ian K
WA, 4094 posts
22 Oct 2024 9:33AM
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Leaked America's Cup Data Reveals Controversial Team New Zealand Advantage

Mozzy sails' theory on why ETNZ was a faster boat. Looks like they had a few seabreeze style foilers on the design team. We knew that. Too much lift, cant the T foil windward. And his explanation of why a 90 degree Y foil is so stable - the lift and leeway are decoupled. Which is exactly why a slapper is so stable.... and slow. And maybe most importantly, trimming with cant angle uses battery power, trimming with sail sheeting requires the cyclors to work harder.

Leaked America's Cup Data Reveals Controversial Team New Zealand Advantage - YouTube

morts
WA, 182 posts
22 Oct 2024 3:53PM
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Brent in Qld said..
And that's all she wrote for AC 2024. ETNZ too strong in the end on a beautiful Barcelona day. Ineos have nothing to be ashamed about with tight racing and improvement all the way. Enormous crowds all being well behaved and great comradery amongst all the supporters.
Caio until next time.


I was there for the LV semi finals & agree supporters all got on well & there was a really good vibe in the village area.

Never seen so many floating palaces & super yachts in one place.

Kiwis were a class above, would have liked to have seen one day at upper wind limit just to see if that made any difference

515
822 posts
26 Oct 2024 7:04AM
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So Barcelona is off the table for the next round. Plenty of protest from locals.
As a kiwi I would love to see the racing back in Auckland and government is open to discussion with TNZ to spend money which would pump up our economy. There's always the argument that AC is rich man's sport and spending tax payers!

Great article below

www.yachtingworld.com/americas-cup/like-riding-in-a-tea-pot-through-moguls-why-well-miss-glenn-ashbys-americas-cup-commentary-154993

Brent in Qld
WA, 1120 posts
26 Oct 2024 1:00PM
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Interestingly not a single Barcelona local I spoke with was anti-AC, got a few sideways stares on public transport and I didn't speak with them... Generally it sounded like the same complainers that bemoan everything and contribute nothing anywhere else in the world. Mostly I heard how well behaved and likeable the sailing fraternity was, nothing like the usual football hooligans or average tourist that rolls into town. Locals were also happy money was spent transforming an average area of the port into a clean usable set of new spaces.

As for cup battle returning to NZ, the event management was spectacular in Barcelona, not to mention the weather and the sangria. Wherever it goes next will have to meet the high standard/expectation the AC Cup management team has set working with Barcelona. Maybe if the city of fails can get their act together with the the upcoming SailGP event, things might start looking better for NZ.
FYI here's a shot of the fleet and headquarters that ran the event. Logistical nightmare seamlessly executed.





Ian K
WA, 4094 posts
28 Oct 2024 10:36PM
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Well now that that's all over for a while you can tune into the Vendee Globe. Starts on Nov 10th. Always a bit of drama. The boats are tested to be self-righting these days, but they can snap in two. 40 competitors. Alex Thomson, the great hope of the British, doesn't seem to have entered. Jean Le Cam is going around again! It's usually won by a mad Frenchman. The lone sailors will have plenty of drones and the appropriate communications to transmit Southern Ocean videos to your computer screens.



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