This to say that nShoreSlider should try to find much thinner gloves, I do not think you need think ones for SUP, and even try ones with no neoprene on the inside (either open, of cloth or a mesh)
Winter surfing for me has air temperatures between 20-30F (-7 to -1C) and water temps down to 35-40F (1-4C) and if the wind is whipping or it's snowing that air temp can feel much colder. I pour steaming hot water in my gloves and boots before every session and sometimes I have to get out of the water early because my hands are numb in 5mm gloves.
I wear 1.5 mm Xcel gloves in winter, fine w/ Infinity handle for me w/ 100L boards. Infinity boards popular among small group of SUP surfers here
When I was a student (a looong time ago), I was windsurfing on inland lakes where the water got down to 4C, and the air was freezing.
I had 2mm gloves with all the underside open, being just some kind of net. And it worked surprisingly well. My hands got cold from first encounter with the water, but then warmed up and were protected from the wind by the top neoprene layer. Plus the grip on the boom was really great with only a fine mesh between it and the fingers.
Alas, I do not think they are made anymore. They would have been great for SUP.
Also, I once windsurfed and SUPed in 0C in the same session without gloves. My fingers hurt terribly while windsurfing, but I had no problems SUPing. Maybe because the grip while SUPing is looser and hands move more, making the blood circulate better?
This to say that nShoreSlider should try to find much thinner gloves, I do not think you need think ones for SUP, and even try ones with no neoprene on the inside (either open, of cloth or a mesh)
E.g:
dietzpaddling.com/products/open-palm-gloves
Or open mittens where it is easy to slip the fingers out to grip the handle:
en.saintjacques-wetsuits.com/products/moufles-paumes-ouvertes-neoprene-3mm
We all have different tolerances. I have 7/8 C water temps and around -2 to 10 C air temps in the winter. I can survive 2 hours on most days in a high quality (taped + gbs) 3/2 wetsuit, unless there is a bitter wind around, but I need 5mm boots and gloves (mittens are best for warmth imo) when it gets to around 5 C and lower. I also usually paddle out when it's still dark in the morning, so there is no warmth from the sun. I grew up in a sub-tropical climate, so maybe if I was conditioned from an early age, things would be different.
I wear 1.5 mm Xcel gloves in winter, fine w/ Infinity handle for me w/ 100L boards. Infinity boards popular among small group of SUP surfers here
When I was a student (a looong time ago), I was windsurfing on inland lakes where the water got down to 4C, and the air was freezing.
I had 2mm gloves with all the underside open, being just some kind of net. And it worked surprisingly well. My hands got cold from first encounter with the water, but then warmed up and were protected from the wind by the top neoprene layer. Plus the grip on the boom was really great with only a fine mesh between it and the fingers.
Alas, I do not think they are made anymore. They would have been great for SUP.
Also, I once windsurfed and SUPed in 0C in the same session without gloves. My fingers hurt terribly while windsurfing, but I had no problems SUPing. Maybe because the grip while SUPing is looser and hands move more, making the blood circulate better?
This to say that nShoreSlider should try to find much thinner gloves, I do not think you need think ones for SUP, and even try ones with no neoprene on the inside (either open, of cloth or a mesh)
E.g:
dietzpaddling.com/products/open-palm-gloves
Or open mittens where it is easy to slip the fingers out to grip the handle:
en.saintjacques-wetsuits.com/products/moufles-paumes-ouvertes-neoprene-3mm
We all have different tolerances. I have 7/8 C water temps and around -2 to 10 C air temps in the winter. I can survive 2 hours on most days in a high quality (taped + gbs) 3/2 wetsuit, unless there is a bitter wind around, but I need 5mm boots and gloves (mittens are best for warmth imo) when it gets to around 5 C and lower. I also usually paddle out when it's still dark in the morning, so there is no warmth from the sun. I grew up in a sub-tropical climate, so maybe if I was conditioned from an early age, things would be different.
I grew up in this climate in northern New England that I referenced earlier and tend to wear a tshirt when it's snowing (I always run hot) and I still need high quality 5mm booties and gloves/mittens for deep winter surfing. It's not you... it's our cold climates. ;)
I'm in a hooded 6/5, 7 mm boots and thermal vest under the wettie. Air temp can be anywhere a bit above the zero centigrade to a few below. Water temp seldom less than 4/5 centigrade. I really hate being cold when I'm surfing...it's just miserable. If you are constantly active it helps keep you warm and the hands too..but regardless of all the above..i still think Infinity's weak spot is the handle. Make it deeper and a little wider and that's what would get me buying another one..until then my New Deal will remain the one and only Infinity I ever buy..regardless of how good it is otherwise. I have to walk 10/15 mins to the beach...my JL, Starboard and Fanatic sups are all easier to manage that with their better handles, especially when the wind blows a bit. I'm not dissing Infinity..its the best surfing sup I have ever had..but if you want to make it perfect then change the handle. Just my opinion though.
i still think Infinity's weak spot is the handle. Make it deeper and a little wider and that's what would get me buying another one... I'm not dissing Infinity... its the best surfing sup I have ever had
I agree to all of that
@scsuperfrank - Score! Hope you enjoy your new RNB 7'11!
i still think Infinity's weak spot is the handle. Make it deeper and a little wider and that's what would get me buying another one... I'm not dissing Infinity... its the best surfing sup I have ever had
I agree to all of that
@scsuperfrank - Score! Hope you enjoy your new RNB 7'11!
First surf on my new 7'11" 98L Infinity RNB today.
We had decent waist high swell ( with the odd chest high set) from hurricane Tammy .
first impressions:
28" width a little challenging first hour or so but got better and caught nice waves first time out
Very fast down the line
I used the quad setup and this board turned so easy ..the 28" width must make the difference
I had to watch front foot to be closer to stringer than on wider nose Super Frank
I can see this board becoming my go-to board 80% of time at my beach break
Put a smile on my face
Nice!!!! I love the feeling of dropping width and having it more responsive on the wave, bet you get used to the wobbles real quick.
Condolences to our cold water friends I tip my lid. I've done stints in Tassie which isn't as cold as EU but brass monkeys nonethe less -at least we could get a beach fire going.
Back to topic I've got an 8'5" RNB still getting my head around it as a going smaller and improving challenge thing, so far so good. Haven't changed the set up from a quad, (such a big butt!). Wondered if any of you folks have toyed with either a 4+1 nubster or thruster (I've got the original centre fin) and your thoughts. Don't think my current skillset would provide an accurate picture.
i still think Infinity's weak spot is the handle. Make it deeper and a little wider and that's what would get me buying another one... I'm not dissing Infinity... its the best surfing sup I have ever had
I agree to all of that
@scsuperfrank - Score! Hope you enjoy your new RNB 7'11!
First surf on my new 7'11" 98L Infinity RNB today.
We had decent waist high swell ( with the odd chest high set) from hurricane Tammy .
first impressions:
28" width a little challenging first hour or so but got better and caught nice waves first time out
Very fast down the line
I used the quad setup and this board turned so easy ..the 28" width must make the difference
I had to watch front foot to be closer to stringer than on wider nose Super Frank
I can see this board becoming my go-to board 80% of time at my beach break
Put a smile on my face
Awesome. I am waiting for my own thinner adventure to start. New board coming at the end of November.