hi Dave
I lost most of those vids when I transfered files to a new 6 TB hard drive.
The pics above were screen grabs I took before I lost the footage.
I never made a video of it cuz the waves were such junk and looking straight down at my feet makes you dizzy. 
Merry Christmas Breezeoids!
5-6' forecast for Christmas Eve around here 
rick
have you designed a bag for your boards yet??? i need one for my 9"1 please???
sunovasurfboards.com/en/accessory/board-bag-style-a1
Style A1.... size for 9'2
same bag all traditional shapes like Acid, Flow, Flash, Creek
Thanks rick
still learning the board as there hasn't been much surf around here of late...the creek is about subtly minor feet movement but use your weight where as the old hokua x32 you plonk yer big back foot to make it work ..
Just wondering, with so many size options for this model, is there a 'guide' for length to rider weight ratio.?
The Creek has good stability by volume.
If you have a volume where you are comfortable, look at the Creek that is close to that volume.
If you are not sure what volume to consider, it is fairly reliable to use standard weight to volume ratios.
Your weight in kg times "factor"
(See example at the end)
Pro factor is 1 to 1.1
Advanced is 1.2 to 1.4
Intermediate 1.5 to 1.6
Beginner = 1.7 and up
i am "advance" and weigh 107 kg
107 x 1.2 = 128 liters
To
107 x 1.4 = 149.8 liters
My winter Creek is the 148 liter 9'4to
My summer Creek is trickier
At 107 I fall right between the 8'10 & 9'1
8'10 = 125 liters
9'1 = 136 liters
I just went south to warmer water, so I need a smaller board. .
I just ordered the 9'1 because the 8'10 would be too much work for me and the 9'1 should be a a good move down from my 9'4
I hope this long answer give people a good way to choose a Creek.
Volume is the more important yardstick than length.
perfect ratio SHEET ...Creek ...
I'm 98 kg ...I know if i take my 130 litre sunova to the beach ,i will have a good surf
no matter what conditions ...
120 if nice off shore.
(thats if you over 50)
Have ordered the 9'4. Creek, the wait is going to be tough,just fizzing at the bung,looks unreal
Select to expand quoteragga said..
just fizzing at the bung
That is...... very vivid
Select to expand quotesupthecreek said..
Hi Bob,
So you are more stable on your 8'10 x 30.5 Mana than the 32LE....
Ahhhh, so it really isn't about size or liters.... it is the added quirkiness of the sharply drawn in nose and curvy outline.
If you are fine with your Mana, then I bet the 8'10 Creek would give you reasonably similar stability and paddling characteristics.... but with a ton more performance and you won't pearl.
The 8'10 Creek numbers are pretty darn close to the 8'10 Mana's ,
At your weight, I'm not sure that you would benefit from 5 liters one way or the other, since 126 Liters is a solid target volume for you.
YES.... Bert will make custom alterations to any stock design for a modest fee.
Possibly $200 additional, but don't quote me, as I am not sure.
It's won't break the bank, if you decide to go that way.
Actually, there is a huge difference between the LE32 and the Creek, from the handle backward.
The Creek has a "bump down hip" at the channels.
This is where the magic of the "Speeed" tail kicks in.
Yes, the Creek outline looks a tad short, but I only have the bottom outline, so it would look shorter than a top view... I tried to adjust as close to actual, but still more for seeing the added stability in the nose.
STC
I pulled the trigger on the Creek 9'1".
Thanks for your guidance.....
Bob
Just had a look at the new creek in the shop, sweet board, I think this will replace the JL worldwide in the quiver !
A creek it could be ...after thinking of a custom flow ...125/30.5/8.10 ..but then thought of a speed ..but a little narrow for me ..
the creek specs fall right in my pocket ...as i've improved i feel my 130 litre flow ,feels big some times ,but enjoy the easy catch of waves
also felt it was wide, in the pocket of the wave @ 31 and a bit ...
just wondering what differences the 8,10 /125 litre creek would surf to the 8,10 flow./130 litres .it is narrower
and it is 5 litres less ..will it be easier to throw around .?narrower boards usually are.?anyone ridden one
Select to expand quoteTardy said..
A creek it could be ...after thinking of a custom flow ...125/30.5/8.10 ..but then thought of a speed ..but a little narrow for me ..
the creek specs fall right in my pocket ...as i've improved i feel my 130 litre flow ,feels big some times ,but enjoy the easy catch of waves
also felt it was wide, in the pocket of the wave @ 31 and a bit ...
just wondering what differences the 8,10 /125 litre creek would surf to the 8,10 flow./130 litres .it is narrower
and it is 5 litres less ..will it be easier to throw around .?narrower boards usually are.?anyone ridden one
Tell you in a month or so......
Tardy,
The speed / creek tail (pulled in with channels) and higher rocker is where it's at for high performance waves.
My custom Creek (9'0x 30.75x129L- i'm nearly 110kg dry) is a weapon when waves are OH. I do feel that my Creek needs to be right in the pocket to really shine - as in it needs push in the water to boogie. (I'm using 105 sides and 94 centre fin). Snaps are super quick. Paddles really straight (which surprised me).
IMO, The flatter rocker and wider tail / hip of the flow suit fatter/ smaller waves, or if you prefer surfing the shoulder more than in the pocket.
So I guess it comes down to the conditions and style you prefer...
Well I'm off to test both 8'4 and 8'7 Creek...
I didn't think I'd be changing one of my boards so soon, but I'm now looking at parting with my 8'10 Speeed.. I never thought I'd say that 
Watching James cut some mighty fine moves on that Orange tint one has made me think either the 8'4 or 8'7 could replace my Speeed.. There's ten ltrs difference and an inch width, dilemma though is I've already got an 8'7 Flow which I love... and my Speeed which I also love... and the Flow might be too similar a size to the Creeks...
Argh 
Select to expand quoteSunnyBouy said..
I didn't think I'd be changing one of my boards so soon, but I'm now looking at parting with my 8'10 Speeed..
Sunny.......nooooo..........not the Speeed!!
I have an 8'7" Creek arriving in the next couple of days. If I like the Creek half as much as my 8'10" Speeed I will be a happy man.
Cheers
Bob
Select to expand quoteTardy said..
A creek it could be ...after thinking of a custom flow ...125/30.5/8.10 ..but then thought of a speed ..but a little narrow for me ..
the creek specs fall right in my pocket ...as i've improved i feel my 130 litre flow ,feels big some times ,but enjoy the easy catch of waves
also felt it was wide, in the pocket of the wave @ 31 and a bit ...
just wondering what differences the 8,10 /125 litre creek would surf to the 8,10 flow./130 litres .it is narrower
and it is 5 litres less ..will it be easier to throw around .?narrower boards usually are.?anyone ridden one
Tardy.... IMO, the Creek and Flow are two very different boards.
Not for me to say which one to ride... just that the way they surf is very different IMO.
I have an 8'10 Flow, which is super stable for me, but I struggle on an 8'10 Creek.... so it may fit your needs exactly, if you want less liters but like the 8'10 size.
The two differ greatly from the mid rail, back.... the Flow carries more width at the sidebites, exactly where the Creek bumps down.
If you are not using your 8'7 Flow a lot, you may benefit from trading it, for an 8'10 Creek without worrying about having 2 boards that are too similar.
Select to expand quoteHoppo3228 said..
Tardy,
The speed / creek tail (pulled in with channels) and higher rocker is where it's at for high performance waves.
My custom Creek (9'0x 30.75x129L- i'm nearly 110kg dry) is a weapon when waves are OH. I do feel that my Creek needs to be right in the pocket to really shine - as in it needs push in the water to boogie. (I'm using 105 sides and 94 centre fin). Snaps are super quick. Paddles really straight (which surprised me).
IMO, The flatter rocker and wider tail / hip of the flow suit fatter/ smaller waves, or if you prefer surfing the shoulder more than in the pocket.
So I guess it comes down to the conditions and style you prefer...
thanks hoppo ,i'm mainly in the pocket ,so it could be good going to the creek for my conditions ,reef break .
but yes the flow is good on fat waves ..
Select to expand quotesupthecreek said..Tardy said..
A creek it could be ...after thinking of a custom flow ...125/30.5/8.10 ..but then thought of a speed ..but a little narrow for me ..
the creek specs fall right in my pocket ...as i've improved i feel my 130 litre flow ,feels big some times ,but enjoy the easy catch of waves
also felt it was wide, in the pocket of the wave @ 31 and a bit ...
just wondering what differences the 8,10 /125 litre creek would surf to the 8,10 flow./130 litres .it is narrower
and it is 5 litres less ..will it be easier to throw around .?narrower boards usually are.?anyone ridden one
Tardy.... IMO, the Creek and Flow are two very different boards.
Not for me to say which one to ride... just that the way they surf is very different IMO.
I have an 8'10 Flow, which is super stable for me, but I struggle on an 8'10 Creek.... so it may fit your needs exactly, if you want less liters but like the 8'10 size.
The two differ greatly from the mid rail, back.... the Flow carries more width at the sidebites, exactly where the Creek bumps down.
If you are not using your 8'7 Flow a lot, you may benefit from trading it, for an 8'10 Creek without worrying about having 2 boards that are too similar.
hey creek ,good info..
i like my 130 flow ...but find it a little wide in the pocket ,,so looking for a similar 8'10 size but better at shaper turns and a bit more bite
a little less literage would be good ,but not too much less ..the 125.3 litre sounds great and the narrower width ..my main concern was the tail
i need it to sit down .just watched a vid and it said the tail does sit lower in the water than the flow.so good.
i have a flicky style ..but also like to slide ..i have never ridden a speed ,because ,i'm not the best at using boards under 30 wide .30,5
is perfect for me .
yes the 8,7 will go .a bit to small for this 98kg kid ..i did give it a good go ...but there was too much swearing involved.
i also have been thinking of the 9,1 acid .126 /30,5 or the new flash .8,9 ..but then again the flash @ 122 litres ,is similar low volume like the 120 flow ,
i think i'm getting creekie so need a creek.8,10 .
Select to expand quoteTardy said..supthecreek said..Tardy said..
A creek it could be ...after thinking of a custom flow ...125/30.5/8.10 ..but then thought of a speed ..but a little narrow for me ..
the creek specs fall right in my pocket ...as i've improved i feel my 130 litre flow ,feels big some times ,but enjoy the easy catch of waves
also felt it was wide, in the pocket of the wave @ 31 and a bit ...
just wondering what differences the 8,10 /125 litre creek would surf to the 8,10 flow./130 litres .it is narrower
and it is 5 litres less ..will it be easier to throw around .?narrower boards usually are.?anyone ridden one
Tardy.... IMO, the Creek and Flow are two very different boards.
Not for me to say which one to ride... just that the way they surf is very different IMO.
I have an 8'10 Flow, which is super stable for me, but I struggle on an 8'10 Creek.... so it may fit your needs exactly, if you want less liters but like the 8'10 size.
The two differ greatly from the mid rail, back.... the Flow carries more width at the sidebites, exactly where the Creek bumps down.
If you are not using your 8'7 Flow a lot, you may benefit from trading it, for an 8'10 Creek without worrying about having 2 boards that are too similar.
hey creek ,good info..
i like my 130 flow ...but find it a little wide in the pocket ,,so looking for a similar 8'10 size but better at shaper turns and a bit more bite
a little less literage would be good ,but not too much less ..the 125.3 litre sounds great and the narrower width ..my main concern was the tail
i need it to sit down .just watched a vid and it said the tail does sit lower in the water than the flow.so good.
i have a flicky style ..but also like to slide ..i have never ridden a speed ,because ,i'm not the best at using boards under 30 wide .30,5
is perfect for me .
yes the 8,7 will go .a bit to small for this 98kg kid ..i did give it a good go ...but there was too much swearing involved.
i also have been thinking of the 9,1 acid .126 /30,5 or the new flash .8,9 ..but then again the flash @ 122 litres ,is similar low volume like the 120 flow ,
i think i'm getting creekie so need a creek.8,10 .
maybe this will help see it better Tardy
Thanks Mr Creek ....i think your surfing better on that board 
Too.
it really does turn quite sharply ...and holds a nice speed after the turns ..looks great .
Select to expand quoteTardy said..
Thanks Mr Creek ....i think your surfing better on that board Too.
it really does turn quite sharply ...and holds a nice speed after the turns ..looks great .
want me to jump on the boat with nozza and bring mine over for you Tardy?
Whats some reviews on the 9'1 creek? Looking for something with a bit more glide on initial take off and obviously some wave performance while still retaining some form of stability while waiting for waves.
Will be testing a 8'10 speed and 9'5 speed as the local does not have a demo 9'2.. also no creeks to demo.
Currently riding a 9'2 x 32 148l evoke..
Select to expand quoteHelmy said..Tardy said..
Thanks Mr Creek ....i think your surfing better on that board Too.
it really does turn quite sharply ...and holds a nice speed after the turns ..looks great .
want me to jump on the boat with nozza and bring mine over for you Tardy?
yeah ..ok....just a vid of you ripping on it will be a good start...
i like the specs on hoppos..i have no probs with 130 litres really its the narrower tail width i like and a slightly extra rocker
on the nose ..which is one thing i would like on the 130 flow ,,it just loosens them up a bit .and you can get away with more crazier moves ,
love the gloss finish on these board ..sic.
Select to expand quotesupthecreek said..Tardy said..supthecreek said..Tardy said..
A creek it could be ...after thinking of a custom flow ...125/30.5/8.10 ..but then thought of a speed ..but a little narrow for me ..
the creek specs fall right in my pocket ...as i've improved i feel my 130 litre flow ,feels big some times ,but enjoy the easy catch of waves
also felt it was wide, in the pocket of the wave @ 31 and a bit ...
just wondering what differences the 8,10 /125 litre creek would surf to the 8,10 flow./130 litres .it is narrower
and it is 5 litres less ..will it be easier to throw around .?narrower boards usually are.?anyone ridden one
Tardy.... IMO, the Creek and Flow are two very different boards.
Not for me to say which one to ride... just that the way they surf is very different IMO.
I have an 8'10 Flow, which is super stable for me, but I struggle on an 8'10 Creek.... so it may fit your needs exactly, if you want less liters but like the 8'10 size.
The two differ greatly from the mid rail, back.... the Flow carries more width at the sidebites, exactly where the Creek bumps down.
If you are not using your 8'7 Flow a lot, you may benefit from trading it, for an 8'10 Creek without worrying about having 2 boards that are too similar.
hey creek ,good info..
i like my 130 flow ...but find it a little wide in the pocket ,,so looking for a similar 8'10 size but better at shaper turns and a bit more bite
a little less literage would be good ,but not too much less ..the 125.3 litre sounds great and the narrower width ..my main concern was the tail
i need it to sit down .just watched a vid and it said the tail does sit lower in the water than the flow.so good.
i have a flicky style ..but also like to slide ..i have never ridden a speed ,because ,i'm not the best at using boards under 30 wide .30,5
is perfect for me .
yes the 8,7 will go .a bit to small for this 98kg kid ..i did give it a good go ...but there was too much swearing involved.
i also have been thinking of the 9,1 acid .126 /30,5 or the new flash .8,9 ..but then again the flash @ 122 litres ,is similar low volume like the 120 flow ,
i think i'm getting creekie so need a creek.8,10 .
maybe this will help see it better Tardy
Rick bro, nice work.
If I'm still on the right side of the grass at your age, I wanna be doing that. Just that.
I just showed my 15 year old son, who is killing it on his mini mal, shortboard, and my minion on occasions, and he is in awe. He did the maths pretty quickly. Lots and lots of sessions to look forward to he reckons. 
I know you steered me towards the 9'1" Creek, but being a glutton for punishment I've gone the 8'10".
If it's anywhere near as good as I reckon it will be, I'll be stoked.
Keep inspiring us mate. 
Rick
Thanks for the video of the "Creek" in action! Wow.......that is ripping surfing.........for anyone at any age. I love the flow, speed and grace on the wave. I'm not sure how to express this but for me you "honoured" the wave. You are an inspiration. Wow.
Bob
Day 1- Onshore closeouts, low tide, shoulder high, Creek 8'7.
Admittedly not the best conditions to test it, but did want to take it out in stuff like this because it's conditions I sometimes get at home.
Nice board, took a little while to get used to getting out of the froth to find some green before it turned in on itself.. so good at paddle out straight line speed, stable once surf stance sorted, sharp tail turns to catch the mush proved similar to my Speeed with a sunk tail it'll turn very quickly but try and turn flat and it's a big old arch before it's finally done a 180, sharp paddle into waves and whoosh! Off it goes, wasn't really expecting it to go that fast but it proved great to head of of the crumble and throw a sharp bottom turn into the froth again.. I obviously need more time on it, I'll need some home conditions before committing but it's a beautiful looking board and I like it a lot.
Tomorrow on the hunt for a better face for the 8'4.. update to follow..
Creeky, bloody sensational mate. Wish I was half that good and also wish I had the funds to buy a "Creek". Ah well ... keep on dreaming Capt'n.
