Aren't these edits looking so dam good. They're all just like music vids nowadays. Very cool.
WOW they look sick. would love to see and try a 9' x26 at 93l.
i often wonder if something like this is the future or 'my' next shape, see i love riding my 7'11 at same sort of width and volume, turns unreal but as said in movie i sit down a lot or my sessions are short lived. that extra foot should help there with balance for longer standing sessions. that being said i do think it is more social to sit and chat to fellow surfers whatever they ride.
I been loving my style 10 footer also but takes a while to get used to it after riding the 7'11 as it is just massive. i do find tho after riding it i get back to my 7'11 and try different things like nose riding at end of waves and moving around board in say fat sections to get to the next section. could a board like this do it all then just prone short board when its pitching hard?
hmm i like.
carbon layups make sense. after riding a JL carbon and IOPS carbon, found the carbon experience dead and unlively. just too stiff and yeh no feel compared to my current balsa board.
does anyone in WA, or even Aus do infinity yet?
Great Vid Rawz... and great looking board! But like Caution said, Anyone in WA stocking this gear that you know of??
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WOW they look sick. would love to see and try a 9' x26 at 93l.
i often wonder if something like this is the future or 'my' next shape, see i love riding my 7'11 at same sort of width and volume, turns unreal but as said in movie i sit down a lot or my sessions are short lived. that extra foot should help there with balance for longer standing sessions. that being said i do think it is more social to sit and chat to fellow surfers whatever they ride.
I been loving my style 10 footer also but takes a while to get used to it after riding the 7'11 as it is just massive. i do find tho after riding it i get back to my 7'11 and try different things like nose riding at end of waves and moving around board in say fat sections to get to the next section. could a board like this do it all then just prone short board when its pitching hard?
hmm i like.
carbon layups make sense. after riding a JL carbon and IOPS carbon, found the carbon experience dead and unlively. just too stiff and yeh no feel compared to my current balsa board.
does anyone in WA, or even Aus do infinity yet?
Yeah mate. Based in WA. Got the 10 x 27 in demo.
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Stinging to Try the 29... Have spoken with timmy.
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WOW they look sick. would love to see and try a 9' x26 at 93l.
i often wonder if something like this is the future or 'my' next shape, see i love riding my 7'11 at same sort of width and volume, turns unreal but as said in movie i sit down a lot or my sessions are short lived. that extra foot should help there with balance for longer standing sessions. that being said i do think it is more social to sit and chat to fellow surfers whatever they ride.
I been loving my style 10 footer also but takes a while to get used to it after riding the 7'11 as it is just massive. i do find tho after riding it i get back to my 7'11 and try different things like nose riding at end of waves and moving around board in say fat sections to get to the next section. could a board like this do it all then just prone short board when its pitching hard?
hmm i like.
carbon layups make sense. after riding a JL carbon and IOPS carbon, found the carbon experience dead and unlively. just too stiff and yeh no feel compared to my current balsa board.
does anyone in WA, or even Aus do infinity yet?
If you want HP longboard with the balsa unique feel, ask Bert one like this!
Although I have several boards, they have been hibernating since this toy came around in Autumn last year.
It works in all conditions, but excels in bigger waves.
It's almost like going back to one board quiver. My fav board ends down :)
9'1 ? 26" 3/4 96 lts
Perfect rocker with the most refined rails.
thanks for the PM's! to cover a few questions around performance, weight and construction -
Finally a surfboard manufacturer has made a SUP that performs as a surfboard, as near a dammit. Others have had a good shot but there's always something slightly off, I'm not going to point out what, if you've ridden a few boards over the years there always seems to be small and sometimes large compromises, that is not the case with the New Deal. Mine rides like a bigger surfboard simple as that. It's fast, responsive, lively, you can feel it in your feet and toes, no corkiness. I'd attribute this to the refined rails, pulled in nose and tail (it still catches the smallest of waves easily and I reckon would be great in the big stuff too). I'm not the best surfer but I'd compare it to some of the more memorable surfboards I have owed over the years in terms of special feeling on a wave. Nice arched tail pad where you can plant your back foot and smash it around. Or walk up near the front (it's not a noserider) if you like.
Weight - super light, watch the wind doesn't blow it away. Haven't weighed mine but the lightest 10ftr I've had.
Construction - bullet proof. I've banged mine into the car/carport/wall without a mark, super tough, again the toughest I've owned. Carbon handle is awesome, feels great, quality product.
This is a special, unique board and they should sell a bucket load.
All I can say is bring on the B-Line.
I am not affiliated, paid or receive free sticks.
That's a big call Grenfell as I see you've just sold your 10' Nalu LE, which I rate as the best longboard SUP shape I've ridden. How do the two compare?
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That's a big call Grenfell as I see you've just sold your 10' Nalu LE, which I rate as the best longboard SUP shape I've ridden. How do the two compare?
Im not gonna bag the Naul, great shape. Try for yourself and ye shall see.
Wish I could try but I'm doubting the availability of demo's in Vic anytime soon.
Anyways nice looking board, have fun!
I was lucky enough to ride the 10 x 27 demo at Noosa Fest of surf.
It was great and felt lively due to it's construction. Definitely a fun option in the class.I have a question to all performance longboard owners or future owners.
Especially those riding low volume models.
Do you own/plan on buying a long board, hoping that you can do turns like a shortboard?
or
Do you own/plan on buying a longboard, so you can longboard? (noseride, sidestep, catch little runners etc)
I feel that a lot of this market has gone towards developing a "10ft shortboard".
I thought the point of a 10ftr is so you can traditional longboard ride.
I'm 75kg and ride a 10 x 30 (135L) compared to a 7"10 x 27 (92L) shortboard.
Its large in size and volume for me but works great with a flat rocker, concave nose and rolled to thin rails.Just a thought...
fox - looks nice
JBFletch - i see where u are going, for some yes they want a longer sup for stability, versatility and shredability. i see the fun of a 10 foot longboard sup, however after riding low volume high performance sups you go on a 135litre board and it feels like a barge. THO, the fun-ness of walking up and down, standing again etc is fun so you get to think about these things and combining, guessing that is what these shapers are doing.
RAWZ - where are you in WA? Perth? have never seen infinity around apart from vid's on tube of THE MAN shredding. those know who i mean.
Greenfell - big call re selling a bucketload and dominating. look wikid, however i saw on one aus website retail price of 2900, dreaming. they going down starboard path and look where it has got them...
if they are lighter, there is less glass and less resin and less product yeh? so why so $$$
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JBFletch - i see where u are going, for some yes they want a longer sup for stability, versatility and shredability. i see the fun of a 10 foot longboard sup, however after riding low volume high performance sups you go on a 135litre board and it feels like a barge. THO, the fun-ness of walking up and down, standing again etc is fun so you get to think about these things and combining, guessing that is what these shapers are doing.
This is the thing most people are doing (coming from working for a SUP brand and hearing diverse feedback)."they want a longer sup for stability". In most cases width is a fair bigger factor in stability then length. Take a raceboard for example. 14ft x 200L. @ 24-25" width, most people will struggle."after riding low volume high performance sups you go on a 135litre board and it feels like a barge" This is the major issue affecting peoples perception on the market. The 2 boards (longboard and shortboard) should not be compared to each other. They both have positive traits that lead to each style excelling in its designed segment. And also have negatives that result in you choosing the opposite style of board. (in most cases)
"the fun-ness of walking up and down, standing again etc is fun so you get to think about these things" exactly right! this is what people need to realise when looking at the 10ft (longboard) range.I hope this helps. Just my 2cents and how i see it.
So please don't take any of this to heart.
Select to expand quoteJBFletch said..CAUTION said..
JBFletch - i see where u are going, for some yes they want a longer sup for stability, versatility and shredability. i see the fun of a 10 foot longboard sup, however after riding low volume high performance sups you go on a 135litre board and it feels like a barge. THO, the fun-ness of walking up and down, standing again etc is fun so you get to think about these things and combining, guessing that is what these shapers are doing.
This is the thing most people are doing (coming from working for a SUP brand and hearing diverse feedback)."they want a longer sup for stability". In most cases width is a fair bigger factor in stability then length. Take a raceboard for example. 14ft x 200L. @ 24-25" width, most people will struggle."after riding low volume high performance sups you go on a 135litre board and it feels like a barge" This is the major issue affecting peoples perception on the market. The 2 boards (longboard and shortboard) should not be compared to each other. They both have positive traits that lead to each style excelling in its designed segment. And also have negatives that result in you choosing the opposite style of board. (in most cases)
"the fun-ness of walking up and down, standing again etc is fun so you get to think about these things" exactly right! this is what people need to realise when looking at the 10ft (longboard) range.I hope this helps. Just my 2cents and how i see it.
So please don't take any of this to heart.
AGREE on some points. yes width definately helps stability, but it deters from real surfing. IMO you dont really surf a wave proper on a board over 29" wide. Yes you can have fun and i wont take that away from anyone, it does help anyone surf waves. my opinion. go narrower and on a wave they feel so much better, like a narrow long board or a shortboard that has both evolved over years.
SO, narrow width, thin refined rails and less thickness like a performance shortboard/longboard for that true surf board, you need to add length to get that volume at around 90-110 litres, that is what i see these guys like Sunova and infinity producing. lets face it to have the above in a 7-8 foot board litrage is around 60-80l. An extra 1-2 foot gives you an extra 20l so the average weight intermediate can ride a high performance board, not needing to be fly weight.
I dont think these will take over, its another natural progression in design for SUP surfing.
Theres still plenty of room for 10'x29-32" boards for anyone and everyone.
Agree but width is not all bad.For majority of waves we surf, it's realistic to use a board that is 30"+. Don't forget the majority of the population cannot paddle (or can't be assed) paddling a board with volume below 100L.
I have used 26-27" wide boards before and find i have way more fun on boards that are more around 29 or 30" with better rails rather then rails that resemble milk cartons. (as often happens with small boards when they try to squish the max litres in).All to there own, but its all about fun and wave catching.
If you want surf board performance, ride a surf board.
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Sounds great!
Thanks for sharing
1fox I think you should buy one and um well I'll take that Sunova off your hands
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Sounds great!
Thanks for sharing
1fox I think you should buy one and um well I'll take that Sunova off your hands
great but not so great to part from my beloved :D
Regarding size vs performance, I find lower width essential.
Although the nalu is 28'5 130 lts, it feels nimble. I think these dims are the acceptable upper limit.
The main downside of the Nalu might be the bit excessive nose kick. I would flatten it exchanging shortboard for more traditional longboard behaviour.
That's why the new deal 10' x 27" 122lts sounds nice. Both dimensions and shape are according.
Regarding longboard trend, I think that the 10' size is a bit like the 12'6. Just size, Not necessarily the best.
You guys down under established a standard that are biasing the market :)
For instance, 9'6 is a great compromise and just Sunova and JL are putting something in that range. (The 9'6 of infinity is too large).
I think I must be thankful to the 10+ comps for bringing back this thing. I'm completely into it. Back to basics.
So talking on the width thingy (and I'm no pro) but I've been surfing a 8.8 speed x 28.5 - 8.3x29.5 smik - 8.9x29.5 prowave and the speed is miles less snappier than the smik & pro ...
So me feels its not just the width .. But a mixture of all ... ?????
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So talking on the width thingy (and I'm no pro) but I've been surfing a 8.8 speed x 28.5 - 8.3x29.5 smik - 8.9x29.5 prowave and the speed is miles less snappier than the smik & pro ...
So me feels its not just the width .. But a mixture of all ... ?????
The speed has parallel rails which deliver speed but implies a tail centric surf.
(This is mostly theory since I just rode briefly a custom speed :) ).
Mr. Blur looks like he has made another good board here.
The "New Deal" looks like the real deal... it will be interesting to see how carbon construction works on a longboard shape.
He has always been very keen on deckpad innovation... this one looks right.
Great production values and info from Dave B. in this clip.
9' x 27 under 100 litres, would love to demo that one.
Bigger Surface area with low volume sounds fun.
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So talking on the width thingy (and I'm no pro) but I've been surfing a 8.8 speed x 28.5 - 8.3x29.5 smik - 8.9x29.5 prowave and the speed is miles less snappier than the smik & pro ...
So me feels its not just the width .. But a mixture of all ... ?????
Rocker, concaves, outline and fins will all affect the speed of a board.Width is not the be all and end all.
Select to expand quoteJBFletch said..
I have a question to all performance longboard owners or future owners.
Especially those riding low volume models.
Do you own/plan on buying a long board, hoping that you can do turns like a shortboard?
or
Do you own/plan on buying a longboard, so you can longboard? (noseride, sidestep, catch little runners etc)
For me the biggest advantage of a longer board is glide. Being able to get into big waves early and also catching smaller waves you wouldn't normally be able to get. Also being able to keep up with shifting peaks.
Whatever style you prefer - Shifting weight to different parts of the board is important with a 10ft'er. So being able to cross-step and move up and down with some style, even if you are surfing mainly off the back foot, looks a lot nicer than just shuffling around.
Select to expand quoteFor instance, 9'6 is a great compromise and just Sunova and JL are putting something in that range. (The 9'6 of infinity is too large).
Colas post reminded me that Gong has its noseriders precisely in the 9'0 to 9'6 range...and a 10' surfboard that can be sup surfed :)
If you want a true Australian made performance 10 ftr that can nose ride and surf like a short stand up then your all barking up the wrong tree with overseas brands
Whilst most of the major offshore brands are making fun to surf 10 ftrs....DEEP ( an Ozzie company ) is really setting the bar with the 10 ft Jackson Close models
Proofs in the ridability..and.. well.. in the vids produced
Look em up sometime you might be surprised
