I have had my Stingray 140 for over 3 months now. I've had 25 sessions on it.
It's appears to be a perfect do everything foil board
Has anyone plugged a Tuttle fin into this thing and tried it out? I know the rails are hard in the stern and there's no cutout but how bad can it be?
Sure it can be done, but you're still stuck on a big clumsy board.
Just as quick to rig smaller or switch to a windsurf board when wind comes up too much.
Conversely, when wind dies, you CAN ditch the rig and grab a SUP paddle, but stuck with small board now and other worms.
Well that's my question - just how clumsy is it? For us big guys that's really not that big a board. And being able to carry just one board around would be awesome. The Naish Galaxy and the Bic Techno foil are similar in size and explicitly designed as crossovers. The Fanatic has a very straight platform which for bigger sailors might be a plus. No one seems to have even tried it though - not even the guys at Fanatic, which is weird. I'd stick a fin in a door just to try if it came with a DT box...
Before I bought my Stingray I was wondering the same thing, could I use it in moderate winds as a normal windsurfer. Three months on and I still haven't tried it. The thing is though, what is the point? It is so much fun using it as a foil board that the idea of slapping on it makes no sense. With a 5.5m sail in 15 kts it is incredibly exciting. The same wind with a 7.5m sail in slapper mode at best it would be just ok.
I like the idea of a 140 liter board with 85 cm width. it is a really good combination for free-ride foiling.
I have a 135 liter foil-dedicated board with 75 cm width. At 195 pounds weight, I can uphaul it, but it is pretty tippy, and I have to perfect my uphauling technique. Having 5 more liters of volume and 10 cm more width would make things pretty nice.
Cutouts are not necessary for foiling since the foil begins to lift the board even at sub-flight speeds. This makes it easy to pump and get the board onto a plane even before taking flight.
All windfoil boards can also be used for windsurfing, SUP, wingfoiling, wakeboarding, kayaking, and even surfing.
But there are better tools for each specific job.
Have recently moved from SB 122 over to Stingray 140 Ltd Edition - with my 95kg, wanted a bit more float when I'm in open ocean/way offshore, and the wind dies 
FANA-TASTIC 
Really versatile and easy, as claimed - slips onto the foil very smoothly, even without any cutouts
I have been using SB Supercruiser and GT, it would cope with GT-R but not full on race foils/ fuselages - have used sails from 4.7 Blade to 8.0 HyperGlide, in breezes 5 to 30+ knots
Great for blasting or freefoil carving - it does feel biggish in the strong gusts, but that is the price you pay for a stable platform
LE is really tough, love it! The extra tough version would be overkill, except for hire centres etc.
It does feel a tiny bit heavy and flexy compared to my Starboard 177 (+ previous SB147, SB122), but that is reassuring - it copes with crashes and knocks, unlike light-build boards which I find just disintegrate from day 1, especially given the extra forces involved in foiling
Long mast track is a plus, especially as my standard setting is about 113cm from front bolt - which is well forward in the track - I will keep experimenting with bringing it further back for carving style foiling with small sails, but I like it forward for blasting at speed ....
Great board, and built to last
If you are less kg, or get more reliable winds, go the 125 ....
I find it very interesting that they claim a 65cm wide board can manage an 8.0, that's a heck of a lot of sail. My 72cm wide board seems to top out around 6.0-6.5 and I'm not a lightweight.
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I find it very interesting that they claim a 65cm wide board can manage an 8.0, that's a heck of a lot of sail. My 72cm wide board seems to top out around 6.0-6.5 and I'm not a lightweight.
I just had a great session with an 8.5 on my 71 cm slalom board a couple of days ago in 10 knots. Sure, the upwind angles were not great (with the 71 cm mast), but I had a blast. The Stingray 110 is wider in the back that the board I used, so 8.0 as the upper sail size limit does seem reasonable to me.
Select to expand quoteboardsurfr said..Grantmac said..
I find it very interesting that they claim a 65cm wide board can manage an 8.0, that's a heck of a lot of sail. My 72cm wide board seems to top out around 6.0-6.5 and I'm not a lightweight.
I just had a great session with an 8.5 on my 71 cm slalom board a couple of days ago in 10 knots. Sure, the upwind angles were not great (with the 71 cm mast), but I had a blast. The Stingray 110 is wider in the back that the board I used, so 8.0 as the upper sail size limit does seem reasonable to me.
You didn't find that any weighting of the harness had the board roll to leeward? Thats what I found when I put larger sails onto less wide boards. Then again I do think that having a deck flat enough to engage your heels is a benefit to control which I didn't have in that situation.
Select to expand quoteAwalkspoiled said..
Well that's my question - just how clumsy is it? For us big guys that's really not that big a board. And being able to carry just one board around would be awesome. The Naish Galaxy and the Bic Techno foil are similar in size and explicitly designed as crossovers. The Fanatic has a very straight platform which for bigger sailors might be a plus. No one seems to have even tried it though - not even the guys at Fanatic, which is weird. I'd stick a fin in a door just to try if it came with a DT box...
You can use the Fanatic Falcon Lightwind or Falcon 140 as a high volume cross over board.
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You didn't find that any weighting of the harness had the board roll to leeward? Thats what I found when I put larger sails onto less wide boards. Then again I do think that having a deck flat enough to engage your heels is a benefit to control which I didn't have in that situation.
I don't use the harness much when foiling. I did not have any problems with leeward rolling, even though I was nicely powered. I noticed that the draft in the sail was quite far forward. Due to boom issues, I had rigged it with less downhaul and outhaul than I usually rig it, so it had quite a deep profile. The old NP V8 (~2010?) works quite well that way.
I also had the i84 mounted in the "D" position (front wind 5 cm further forward than "C"). That allows for a more balanced stance and more weight on the front foot, which is further out than the back foot. In C position, most of my weight would need to be on the back foot, which is much further inward; that might have result in problem with leeward roll.
Yes being rear footed can cause issues with rolling. However I'm in the harness almost all the time unless I'm pumping or carving into a gybe.
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Yes being rear footed can cause issues with rolling. However I'm in the harness almost all the time unless I'm pumping or carving into a gybe.
When windsurfing, using the harness transfers weight from the feet to the mast base. I'd assume that's similar when foiling (although when I use the harness while foiling, it takes much less weight). Mast base pressure contributes to rolling, so does less weight on the feet to counteract it. Maybe that's why the bigger sails don't work for your setup.
Select to expand quoteAwalkspoiled said..
Well that's my question - just how clumsy is it? For us big guys that's really not that big a board. And being able to carry just one board around would be awesome. The Naish Galaxy and the Bic Techno foil are similar in size and explicitly designed as crossovers. The Fanatic has a very straight platform which for bigger sailors might be a plus. No one seems to have even tried it though - not even the guys at Fanatic, which is weird. I'd stick a fin in a door just to try if it came with a DT box...
I had my first several wind foiling experiences with my Fanatic Falcon LW. It works great as a foil board. Loads of volume and plenty of width. I even used the new Slingshot i99 front wing, with the foil mast in "C" position and had an AMAZING time in 8-12mph breezes with an 8.0 Ezzy Cheetah.
Btw... I am 6'4", 225lbs and almost 51 years old. Up until this July, I hadn't windsurfed in 18 years. I am HOOKED again.
Shortly after getting comfortable on the Fanatic Falcon LW, I ordered a Slingshot Levitator 160. That's a huge step up in getting up on foil. The board is more "loose" once it gets going, and can be pumped, using the sail, very easily.
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Yes being rear footed can cause issues with rolling. However I'm in the harness almost all the time unless I'm pumping or carving into a gybe.
When windsurfing, using the harness transfers weight from the feet to the mast base. I'd assume that's similar when foiling (although when I use the harness while foiling, it takes much less weight). Mast base pressure contributes to rolling, so does less weight on the feet to counteract it. Maybe that's why the bigger sails don't work for your setup.
That's 100% what it is, but it's also the method all the really fast foilers use to go fast upwind. Plus it's easier on the arms and increases pitch stability.
Getting the rig perfectly upright with no downward force through the harness should help which is why I've put some 32" adjustable lines instead of 28" fixed on my foiling boom.
Also there is a technique adjustment there as well, have to set the board angled into the wind and let the apparent wind come well forward then progressively sheet in. If you just point on course and sheet it'll try to roll, on a Formula width board its different since there is so much leverage.
Using my 140 a lot with SB Supercruiser and wave sails - have found that inboard footstraps make freefoil carving even easier, less overloading the rail in the lulls etc, so not just a "beginner" option - such an easy fun board to learn open ocean swell riding
Did anyone notice that the Stingray foil does not have a vent screw? is it a concern?
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Did anyone notice that the Stingray foil does not have a vent screw? is it a concern?
Funny, only when you fly or leave it in the sun for too long. Its white tho, so the latter should be less of a problem for this board than the pro version.
I'm currently using a Naish Hoverboard 122 as my foil board plus I have a JP Magic Ride 119 for my 17y.o son who is learning to windsurf. My question is..... could I sell both boards and use a Stingray as my foil board and take off the foil and put a windsurf fin in it use it as a learners board? Do you think it would plane ok as a slapper?
Thanks Peter. That would be the way to find out. Although being a little fella we'd go smaller if buying.
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Thanks Peter. That would be the way to find out. Although being a little fella we'd go smaller if buying.
I have a Naish Hover 122 and bought 2 x us box fins. Think they are 27cm. It sails fine as a big board. I've used it when wind gets up too much to foil and I've left my other boards at home. Just a big arc on gybing. My kids are learning to sail on it. Agree there are better single purpose boards but most mists are more versatile than we give them credit for.
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Thanks Peter. That would be the way to find out. Although being a little fella we'd go smaller if buying.
I have a Naish Hover 122 and bought 2 x us box fins. Think they are 27cm. It sails fine as a big board. I've used it when wind gets up too much to foil and I've left my other boards at home. Just a big arc on gybing. My kids are learning to sail on it. Agree there are better single purpose boards but most mists are more versatile than we give them credit for.
h20 Thanks for that shared experience. I will give it a go and hopefully flog the Magic Ride as it gets very little use. Now to tell my son that I plan to sell his board!!!
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Thanks Peter. That would be the way to find out. Although being a little fella we'd go smaller if buying.
give me a call
Am interested to hear any long term review's of last year's stingray as thinking about buying one. Any info be big help .
I have the 2020 140 StingRay which is the same as 2019. Great board, does everything you need it to. Going to sell it PM me if you are interested.
