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A look at the new 2020 Fanatic Stingray Foilboard

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Created by SurfFX > 9 months ago, 30 Oct 2019
powersloshin
NSW, 1734 posts
21 Jun 2020 4:51PM
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That's the only foil board I have owned, so cannot compare, but it works well for me as a learner freerider. It has stability, the straps in the right place, both a channel and a deep tuttle box for different foils. I also have used it a few times with a big delta fin in light wind and shallow weedy water and it's ok if you don't expect the performance of a slalom board.
all my sessions with the board here:
martignoni.id.au/sessions.php?board=Stingray_Foil140

tonyk
QLD, 565 posts
21 Jun 2020 6:01PM
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powersloshin said..
That's the only foil board I have owned, so cannot compare, but it works well for me as a learner freerider. It has stability, the straps in the right place, both a channel and a deep tuttle box for different foils. I also have used it a few times with a big delta fin in light wind and shallow weedy water and it's ok if you don't expect the performance of a slalom board.
all my sessions with the board here:
martignoni.id.au/sessions.php?board=Stingray_Foil140


awesome record keeping George

tbwonder
NSW, 696 posts
21 Jun 2020 9:48PM
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nerdycross said..
Am interested to hear any long term review's of last year's stingray as thinking about buying one. Any info be big help .


Well my record keeping is not quite up to Georges high standards, but I have had 99 sessions on my 2020 Stingray 140 and done well over 3000 km.
I have never used any board so much. There is no noticeable wear on it
I have no desire to have either a larger or smaller board. It's wide enough to cruise around the lake with the guys on race foils and playful enough to mess around riding the swell. May be it's a bit of an old mans board.

nerdycross
301 posts
21 Jun 2020 11:20PM
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tbwonder said..

nerdycross said..
Am interested to hear any long term review's of last year's stingray as thinking about buying one. Any info be big help .



Well my record keeping is not quite up to Georges high standards, but I have had 99 sessions on my 2020 Stingray 140 and done well over 3000 km.
I have never used any board so much. There is no noticeable wear on it
I have no desire to have either a larger or smaller board. It's wide enough to cruise around the lake with the guys on race foils and playful enough to mess around riding the swell. May be it's a bit of an old mans board.


Sounds about right for me then ! what foil are you using with it ?

Searoamer
NSW, 294 posts
22 Jun 2020 7:54AM
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I have the same board 2020 Stinger 140 - super versatile, super easy and fun, find myself pulling it out SO often these days - I'm using SB Supercruiser with footstraps inboard if there is swell to play in - with straps outboard, use anything you want, loose/wave, freeride or freerace style foils, anything up to the SB GT-R would be sweet - plus use any sail from 3 to 10!!- full on race foils could work ok if not overpowered, never tried it, but 140 at "only" 85 wide is not really designed for it ...

nerdycross
301 posts
23 Jun 2020 4:58AM
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Peter Hands said..
I have the same board 2020 Stinger 140 - super versatile, super easy and fun, find myself pulling it out SO often these days - I'm using SB Supercruiser with footstraps inboard if there is swell to play in - with straps outboard, use anything you want, loose/wave, freeride or freerace style foils, anything up to the SB GT-R would be sweet - plus use any sail from 3 to 10!!- full on race foils could work ok if not overpowered, never tried it, but 140 at "only" 85 wide is not really designed for it ...


Sounds real good Peter douse the board get knocked about in gusts and how about swing wait?

tbwonder
NSW, 696 posts
23 Jun 2020 8:25AM
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nerdycross said..
Sounds about right for me then ! what foil are you using with it ?


Slingshot (Moses) Ghost whisperer 101 mast, 683 wing

Searoamer
NSW, 294 posts
25 Jun 2020 2:49PM
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nerdycross said..

Peter Hands said..
I have the same board 2020 Stinger 140 - super versatile, super easy and fun, find myself pulling it out SO often these days - I'm using SB Supercruiser with footstraps inboard if there is swell to play in - with straps outboard, use anything you want, loose/wave, freeride or freerace style foils, anything up to the SB GT-R would be sweet - plus use any sail from 3 to 10!!- full on race foils could work ok if not overpowered, never tried it, but 140 at "only" 85 wide is not really designed for it ...



Sounds real good Peter douse the board get knocked about in gusts and how about swing wait?


I find it rides very stable, even in 30 knots, under my 90++kg - and turns as hard as I want using only subtle pressure - compared to my SB 177 it feels compact - for lighter sailors, or reliable winds, or maximum turning performance, go smaller for sure - but it works superbly for me, plus I can head offshore in heavy seas and schlogg home safely if the wind dies

Smidgeuk
70 posts
28 Jul 2020 2:33AM
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Has anyone used the stingray 140 with the Slingshot i99? Does it balance properly without too much back foot pressure? Im really tempted as the Slingshot boards are so expensive, and somehow 150 or 160 seems too big and 125 too small (90kgs on freshwater).

MrA
QLD, 132 posts
28 Jul 2020 2:02PM
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Has anyone used the stingray 140 with the Slingshot i99? Does it balance properly without too much back foot pressure? Im really tempted as the Slingshot boards are so expensive, and somehow 150 or 160 seems too big and 125 too small (90kgs on freshwater).


Hi Smidguek

I have the Stingray 140 and have the Slingshot i99.
I'm 94 kg.
I have the base plate adapter and set it near the front of the twin tracks and don't have back foot pressure issues. I don't think it would be the same if I used the tuttle box adapter. Lucky the board has both.
I too looked at the Slingshot boards but went with the Stingray because of cost. Very happy with the board.

Smidgeuk
70 posts
29 Jul 2020 2:51AM
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Thanks thats really helpful

piepap
1 posts
17 Nov 2020 4:28PM
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What board bag do you use with Stingray 140? I'm having an hard time in finding one that perfectly fits. Thanks
Pietro

segler
WA, 1635 posts
18 Nov 2020 1:25AM
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I have the Stingray 140 LTD for my 195 lb weight. I use a LP or AFS-2 foil mounted in the DT box. It balances out very well with the footstraps and sail mast base. In strong winds with a 5.0 it does not get blown around at all. The volume and width are excellent for my sloppy transitions and for uphauling.

I got a Epic Gear 240 x 85 board bag for it. Fits perfectly.

For finning, I cut down an old formula fin to 50 cm. It works well. Not quite optimized for finning, but plenty good enough. If I am sailing with my wife, she uses the SR with the fin, and I foil with my old L6 formula board.

With the dual tracks it is future-proof.

Sandman1221
2776 posts
2 Dec 2020 4:59AM
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At Big Winds they call it a 100% optimized foil board, so would assume not for finning.

choco
SA, 4096 posts
2 Dec 2020 8:08AM
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Thanks to Andrew and Georgio for help with my setup on the Stingray, swapped the tuttle head to plate(Naish 1150 foil setup) and moved the mast forward in the tracks, straps inboard. Only managed to get a couple of flights wind died out to nothing but was wrapped how balanced everything felt, board lifted onto the foil smoothly and just trimmed nicely felt so balanced.




vicsa
NSW, 1 posts
23 Aug 2021 12:24PM
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Peter Hands said..
Have recently moved from SB 122 over to Stingray 140 Ltd Edition - with my 95kg, wanted a bit more float when I'm in open ocean/way offshore, and the wind dies
FANA-TASTIC
Really versatile and easy, as claimed - slips onto the foil very smoothly, even without any cutouts
I have been using SB Supercruiser and GT, it would cope with GT-R but not full on race foils/ fuselages - have used sails from 4.7 Blade to 8.0 HyperGlide, in breezes 5 to 30+ knots

Great for blasting or freefoil carving - it does feel biggish in the strong gusts, but that is the price you pay for a stable platform

LE is really tough, love it! The extra tough version would be overkill, except for hire centres etc.

It does feel a tiny bit heavy and flexy compared to my Starboard 177 (+ previous SB147, SB122), but that is reassuring - it copes with crashes and knocks, unlike light-build boards which I find just disintegrate from day 1, especially given the extra forces involved in foiling

Long mast track is a plus, especially as my standard setting is about 113cm from front bolt - which is well forward in the track - I will keep experimenting with bringing it further back for carving style foiling with small sails, but I like it forward for blasting at speed ....

Great board, and built to last
If you are less kg, or get more reliable winds, go the 125 ....


You mentioned that "it would not cope full on race foils/ fuselages" why is that and did anyone try it?

Searoamer
NSW, 294 posts
23 Aug 2021 3:52PM
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Board is too narrow to cope with the power - need 91+ ideally to get enough leverage on the rail ...
But it might work OK if you use smaller sails (7m not 8+) and/or don't sail it too powered up ....??

mr love
VIC, 2376 posts
23 Aug 2021 4:23PM
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Peter...Interested in that last comment...I see wingdingers on much narrower boards with Axis hi aspect wings that are 1120 in length. Why could you not use a 1000 wide front wing on an 85 wide board?

Searoamer
NSW, 294 posts
23 Aug 2021 7:52PM
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Hey Martin, enjoying your OFF project!
it's not the wing size, I use Supercruiser on 140 all the time with 1700 front wing - it's the fuselage length that creates so much power at speed ... these are my impressions, but there are way better foilers/engineers out there than me who can advise
think Formula windsurfing - with huge sails and 70cm fins it needed 100cm wide boards to control the lift - similar equation with 115cm fuselages in my limited experience, especially if the wind picks up
And like on Formula kit the Race foils are about upwind/downwind angles, even the pros are on the edge of exploding getting them to beam reach - hence 95cm fuselage option on iQfoil

aeroegnr
1656 posts
23 Aug 2021 7:34PM
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Peter Hands said..

And like on Formula kit the Race foils are about upwind/downwind angles, even the pros are on the edge of exploding getting them to beam reach - hence 95cm fuselage option on iQfoil


Yeah there's a huge difference in feel between the 95+ and 115+ fuse. On a well-powered day, when I didn't even need to pump on the 95+, the 95+ wasn't causing me to breach anywhere near as much as the 115+. It just took a whole lot more trim adjustment because the fuse length also gives you strong stability.

Having a hard time imagining that foil (900cm w/ 115+) on much narrower board than the 95cm, but may be possible to some extent.

Note that Phantom's speed board, which Goyard has been using to push towards 40kts, is shown as 83cm width and a sail range of 5.0-8.0. I think on his fastest runs he was using a 6.0?

segler
WA, 1635 posts
23 Aug 2021 11:44PM
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Vicsa asked about race foils on the Stingray 140. I have tried to use my Moses Race with it. I have to stand in front of the fully-front footstraps to balance since the race wing on the very long 115 cm fuselage is MUCH FURTHER FORWARD than that of freeride wings on 90 cm fuselages. Straightforward geometry here.

I did some measurements at the Event Site one day. My front footstraps are mounted fully forward. The back end of the front strap is 20 inches from the front fin bolt.

On two custom boards with race foils mounted, the back end of their front strap is 26 inches from the front fin bolt.

Eureka and Voila!!!

This explains how they could balance the race foils with small sails (6.0) for freeride foiling.

As always, it's still all about balance.

So what am I doing about this in my particular case? I use the Stingray 140 only for freeride foiling with freeride foils. On my old formula board I am installing new footstap inserts way further forward to use with my Moses Race foil.



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