Hi, just wondering if anyone has tried winding on their wind foil gear? Does it work?
I have a Wizard 125, 90cm mast and i76 and wondered whether it'd work with a Duotone wing .... or are windfoil specific boards such as the Wizard no good for winding?
I am considering the same thing on my 125 with the 84cm wing. I once saw someone on Instagram doing it on a 125 and it looked fine, of course I couldn't see what wing they were using and it was a very brief video clip. I once heard from Slingshot's Instagram account stating it was doable too. I am sure someone will come on here and tell us to just drop $2k on an Outwit, just like I was told my slalom board wouldn't be great for windfoiling when I'm fact it was rad and afforded me the chance to dip my toes in before committing to windfoiling. I get that the Wizard's Tuttle box is so far back compared to a wing board, but the c-position for the wing and standing farther aft should help a bit. Here's a Levitator getting it done albeit with a foil mast track. I vote you go for it and report back!
I've just started winging and had two sessions on my Wizard 103L with the Naish S25 5.2m and Infinity 84 / 90 cm mast. It worked well and winging is easy. After a couple of hours on the water I was making most of my foiling gybes.
I was sceptical about wings but they are amazing because they act like a kite. If you get overpowered just park it overhead in the low power zone. When there's a lull bring it down into the power zone. I actually felt more comfortable in gusty winds than I would with a windsurf sail (I've been windfoiling 3 years and windsurfing 35 years). The pumping is crazy because the wing is so light. It feels like you're doing nothing but the board picks up speed. I think the pumping also works as you push the wing away as well as when you pull it towards you.
The front foot straps on the Wizard 103L are really too far outboard so I had to put my rear foot near the rail. For long term use I'd consider adding some more insert positions or maybe trying it without footstraps.
Thanks - I've got same set up so very interested as well.
also, has anyone foil supper a 125 ? I can give it a try but maybe change to c as well on fuselage - sorry to hijack
The main difference between the W125 and a SUP foil board is the mast track location. In the pic the out wit tracks are much further forward.
having the ability to micro adjust the foil in the tracks (other than B or C) can make a frustrating session into an excellent one.
I stand much further forward on the out wit to pump the foil up, then gradually sliding the feet back depending on the wind strength.
Obviously it's another board expense but depending where you foil if it's a very gusty area it's better to go SUP/foil board, quicker learning curve.
my set up is 90 mast, 84 wing, 42 rear in B, (number 5 on the outwit track)
Really interesting, as if we look at recent dedicated wing board as the fanatic sky wing the rail move back to be at an in between more similare at a slingshot freestyle windfoil board
www.fanatic.com/foil/boards/wing-specific/sky-wing
This is another great topic. I had seen the video of the Slingwing and the Levitator too. I plan to buy an Ozone Wasp 6.0 and learn how to use it. Will probably add a dedicated winging board, but if my Levitator works well, maybe not.
The Outwit looks like it would windfoil well with the right mast track position.
The volume behind the rider and tail kick seem like you could glide onto the foil a bit better.
Hi everybody,
I was searching for some info about wingfoiling on a windfoilboard quite a while.
Got it now thanks to this cool forum.
I have a Wizard 125 + i84 and i76.
Tried it last weekend Saturday on a gusty lake with the 84 + 48 in C and a Sling Wing v1.
My experience was that I almost fell of the board with the backfoot. For me the box is just to far back.
I tried it the next day on a tuned sup (rail boxes put in) worked perfect considering the crappy gusty lake.
My question now: Is there a recommendation for good setup with my gear, which is:
Wizard 125 i84 and i76 + 42 and 48 Stabilizers
Im also considering to put railboxes into the Wizard in front of the tuttle box.
Thanks in advance for some info.
Maybe I should state that I?m from Germany - so please excuse my english
BBN, your English is great. Where you able to get any rides at all on the wizard? I will be trying wingfoiling in the coming weeks on the same board with an i84 in C position. If it comes to it, I will consider getting tracks mounted, but would like to avoid it if at all possible.
Perhaps you could try the 42 rear wing with the 84 to see what difference I makes.
Thanks for the Link Paducah.
The guys are from lake Garda, good address for us europeans, considering trans fees.
@Windbot - I had some runs up winging on the foil with the wizard - but i had to stand right back on the tail behind the tuttle wholes. Not comfortable at all and always in fear of stepping behind the board. I had a really bad injury doing so while surfing.
I tried the 42 stabilizer while windfoiling - much less backfootpressure needed with it - you are right.
But the takeoffspeed is significantly higher with the 42 stabi. and I need to get up on foil as soon as possible on the lake. Gusts come in just for a moment - but once You fly it is enough to ride a while.
Please report on your testing when you have done some.
Hey BBN thanks for the details. A fit behind the Tuttle Box doesn't leave much room. I will definitely post up my experience. I just ordered a Naish 4.6 that will take a few weeks for the ship to get in, then I will have to wait weeks for decent wind to try it donut may be a while. I am hoping my quiver will be my current windfoil 7.3 and 5.5 sails with the wing for higher winds. I love the Wizard for foiling and would be a happy if I could use it either modded or not for winging. Keep us posted on your journey. I will also consider getting a D position hole drilled at the machine shop down the street if it means I can stand an inch further forwards.
I am also likely going to remove my rear straps as I never use them anyways and instead make a webbing loop to attach a leash. I may try building some sort of foam block like on a stomp pad so I can feel the back of the board before I get there.
Simon, perhaps the smaller 103 with less weight out front means you foot weighting is different? What size S25 are you on in the pic and how did you like it?
Wow nice, at the rate I am headed I will have wing jibes before I ever get my first flying windfoil jibe.
Really strange that it worked so good for you with the 103l board - skill might play role here.
I will give it some more tries before i put the rail boxes in. Maybe have some better wind sessions
Here's my plan. If I find the Tuttle box is too far back on my Wizard I may bolt a small routered plywood platform on the back of my board using some of the footstrap holes. It would have a cutaway to keep access to the two foil mast bolts. I could slap a tailpad with tailblock on it and would router the edges smooth with no sharp corners that could damage the wing. Since I don't use my rear straps I wouldn't miss them. Thoughts? I am trying to keep my quiver down to a single board, at least for now.
Genius - by doing that You also have the oportunity to pump the board quite hard. The production foil sups have that kind of balcony in the tailshape. I will have a lengthening like that too. Maybe with a vertical part just behind the tail to even reinforce the construction.