Select to expand quotegregnw44 said..
Hi, Thanks for this great news here about the Windsurfer LT.
I am curious about the weight of this board, and I looked through most of the pages here, and didn't see if any of you have actually weighed your board on a calibrated scale?
I know that "they say" it's 15kg... but I've had bad luck with boards from Cobra in the past... so I'd like to know if you all are "checking" to see how close your board is to the specs. Also I know that the board weight specs will be taken with a "bare board"... no daggerboard or fin. If I buy one I will weigh it bare"... and I hope it is 15 kg (or very close).
Thanks for any info, Greg :)
Thank you VERY much - Bone's and Hardcarve - for the weight info... for your Windsurfer LT boards!!
I'm happy you got boards at least as good as the spec weight... I hope I am as lucky :)
And if anyone else is able to weigh their boards... I'd love to get more data.
Thanks, Greg -
Select to expand quotenormster said..
Any suggestions for board bags given the board is epoxy and not as robust as original ?
Also my booties dont grip grip on the side deck - anyone recommend booties that grip ?
I wear xcel booties on my LT, the grip is good ??
Select to expand quotewally sailor said..normster said..
Any suggestions for board bags given the board is epoxy and not as robust as original ?
Also my booties dont grip grip on the side deck - anyone recommend booties that grip ?
I wear xcel booties on my LT, the grip is good ??
Not sure why I have ?? In my post, they shouldn't be there. I find the xcel booties excellent on my LT. Haha smiley face turns into question marks
thanks Wally
ill have a look at them - the booties i have work well on sup but for some reason not on new wally
First cruise today for me on my LT. Very surreal after 30 odds year. Ive gone dinghies -> Wally -> several slalom and wave boards -> many years racing cats and then not sailing at all for last 15 years. So today, in lightish air on an inland dam, was quite surreal, and a heap of fun! Some scissor gybes (a bit wobbly), planed once, got some harness time. Muscle memory is cool/amazing. Very glad to be back, stoked with my purchase!
Select to expand quoteChris 249 said..
Great stuff! Where's your inland dam?
Dumeresque dam near Armidale. Just a puddle really. Going to be doing some racing with New England sailing club: Malpas Dam. But mostly aiming to get to regattas from time to time. But if you see an LT on Keepit or Copeton (with the orange/yellow sail... 'not flouro' Greg said... yeah right!! :)), that'll be me! I also get down to the Coffs coast a fair bit.
You are kidding...... that means you have the third LT in Armidale! That's remarkable.
We're normally sailing on the little waterhole at our place on Commissioner's Waters, 4k west of the Blue Hole. The sailable part (before it gets too shallow and windless) is only about 100m by 50m but that's enough to chill out, do freestyle and get some sailing in. I did sail at Dumaresque until we bought this place over winter.
I raced my LT last weekend and may take it down to Malpas tomorrow; my wife can't sail hers as she has a dog club event on. I may also have to sail my Laser as the Keepit Laser guys are planning to come up. I'll drop you a PM with contact details.
There's one LT down at Maclean's Big River Sailing Club, and one owned by a Newcastle sailor who in often in Grafton. I think there's a couple more on order from northern NSW cruisers. Andy Landy, Olympic silver medallist in cats, former world Moth dinghy champ and a good windsurfer, is now in Ben Lomond and if I lend him a board and use one of my One Designs we may be able to get him into a local fun day as well. I think there'll be enough interest for an autumn event near the coast, but until then it would be great to get the three of us out around Armidale.
After all, Armidale has Australia's top sailing spot - FACT.*
Well, if you mean top by height above sea level. :-)
This is fun :). PM sent! How someone like Andrew Landenburger (sp) ends up up there is beyond me.
Get your LT's to Armidale people, looks like it's the place of pace!
Has anyone tried an LT for absolute beginners and can compare to the other offerings in the market.
There was a second hand LT for sale in Sydney, ? I saw it on Facebook ,just wondering if it sold
Select to expand quoteNelle said..
Has anyone tried an LT for absolute beginners and can compare to the other offerings in the market.
I think it would be okay as a learners board. Not the best pure learning option around though, as it is a bit narrower and so not as stable as say a Start, Rio or Funster. They are a bit more fragile as well, I would be nervous letting a absolute beginner on to mine personally.
I think a big wide stable board will give beginners a better result initially. I can remember trying to teach friends on an old original Windsurfer in a little bit of chop. Lots of bruised shins and frustration.
Lately I have been using a large Starboard inflatable SUP with a centre fin slot to teach begiiners, as has a friend who has one as the Fanatic version. Very good for bigger kids or adults to learn on. Can't hurt them and they cant damage it. I have had around 6 kids using it as a diving/ battle platform, including covering it in mud and clay and it still is in fine condition.
Select to expand quoteNelle said..
Has anyone tried an LT for absolute beginners and can compare to the other offerings in the market.
I think it depends on where they sail, how often they sail, what they want to get into, how heavy they are, their balance, their strength, their interests and many other factors.
The LT is more stable than the One Design but not as stable as a Go or Start type. However, it will be much better upwind most of the time and much faster in light winds. If you get the 4m sail it will also be significantly lighter than many other small sails. The old hollow-leach sails we used to use to teach people on ages ago were terrible (long boom, no power, no gust response or progressive depowering), and the other alternative of using a heavy flat high-wind shortboard sail also creates problems (heavy, no power, poor upwind capability).
If the beginner is a bigger person who is a bit wobbly on their feet, a Go/Start type may be better. If you are sailing on a choppy open waterway, the Go/Start type may be better. Same if the sailor wants to just shortboard in the future.
If you're on an enclosed waterway where the Go/Starts poor windward ability is an issue, or if it's a light sailor with good balance, or if you normally sail where the winds are lighter, the LT may be better.
I picked my LT today up from Windgenuity and had it in the water at Connells Point Sailing Club in Sydney by the afternoon. Couldn't believe how quick and simple it was to rig. I'm returning to the sport and haven't sailed anything for about 15 years. It was about 10knts. I got it going to windward no worries, hooked into the harness and just totally loved it. 
Yeah i stacked on tacks and gybes plenty of times but I could n't care, it was so easy to uphaul and get moving again.
I was a lot more unstable downwind, and the centreboard is still pretty tight. I sailed for as long as my body could take (about 90 mins). Overall all I had one of the best afternoons i can remember having for a long time. Super keen to go out again.
Select to expand quoteChrisD67 said..
I picked my LT today up from Windgenuity and had it in the water at Connells Point Sailing Club in Sydney by the afternoon. Couldn't believe how quick and simple it was to rig. I'm returning to the sport and haven't sailed anything for about 15 years. It was about 10knts. I got it going to windward no worries, hooked into the harness and just totally loved it. Yeah i stacked on tacks and gybes plenty of times but I could n't care, it was so easy to uphaul and get moving again.
I was a lot more unstable downwind, and the centreboard is still pretty tight. I sailed for as long as my body could take (about 90 mins). Overall all I had one of the best afternoons i can remember having for a long time. Super keen to go out again.
Spray the centreboard with Silicon lubricant it will move easily.....
Another sail this afternoon, took the kids. The dam was glass when we got there - had a great time mucking around with it in SUP mode. Then a breeze puffed through and we had an hour or so of kids riding on nose, aft, standing inside me hanging on wishbone. They LOVED it, 'I can't believe how fast it goes!'. (Wait until we get more than the say 7kt gusts :)). Then de-rigged and on the Ute in 5 mins. Stoked.
Help how do you rig a Wally sail???
up at lake for Xmas - going out to practice on the LT to get ready for cruiser class at the Nats.
Dont know now what I'm doing trying to rig the sail.
To much down haul on that rig giving you the creases down the mast. I set the boom to the 50 mark and first pull out haul to as far as you can to the boom end and then pull down haul to just give you a slight crease down the mast, and I mean slight. Stronger wind I give more down haul and a little more outhaul.
Im from the old days so not sure if today this is how it's done but sailing my LT I get a very smooth set sail with no creases at all other than in really light wind when I bag it out a bit and have a few.
Select to expand quotejirvin4505 said..
Help how do you rig a Wally sail???
up at lake for Xmas - going out to practice on the LT to get ready for cruiser class at the Nats.
Dont know now what I'm doing trying to rig the sail.
Leave any comments that are usefull about rigging ;-)
Given up in frustration. Going out with the Ezzy Cheeta 7.5 on the LT
Will try again later once I get some feedback
cheers Jeff
Love the LT - jury is out on the sail??
Hey mate
didnt Griswold give you the tips?
im no expert but... here's what I've learned.
step 1. Boom set at 40 no tension on downhaul and pull outhaul out roughly 5-10cm from end
step 2. Light downhaul - unless 15 knots or more go down to 6 or 5 mark only should still have some horizontal wrinkles
step 3. Adjust our haul to suit conditions light wind likely 5cm or more from end of boom. Stronger wind closer to end.
should be vertical line or line up in luff for light wind setup. Stand up sail and fill with wind and pump, you will see the vertical creases fill out and absorb the extra wind and take the nice ring shape. Great for this style of sail.
leech tension string
tighten if no wind loose if windy to spill the wind out of top of leech.
gererally don't be afraid if a little baggy light wind and gradually firm up in stronger wind. I quite often have rather loose looking mast sleeve and luff most visible around boom pocket.
very strong wind still down haul no more than to the 4 mark on mast.
when derigging, take tension off the fownhaul girst and assist it to move up the mast a little before releasing outhaul. This will minimise chance of stretching luff.
old school technology in the days before massive downhaul required.
suits board pretty well.
check out a similarly skilled or better sailor similar weight to check their settings. Most happy to help!
hope this helps
see you at the Nats. Enjoy!
Al
Select to expand quoteHardcarve1 said..
To much down haul on that rig giving you the creases down the mast. I set the boom to the 50 mark and first pull out haul to as far as you can to the boom end and then pull down haul to just give you a slight crease down the mast, and I mean slight. Stronger wind I give more down haul and a little more outhaul.
Im from the old days so not sure if today this is how it's done but sailing my LT I get a very smooth set sail with no creases at all other than in really light wind when I bag it out a bit and have a few.
Thanks. Very usefull info
will have another go in morning
Lovely arvo on the lt with 7.5 Ezzy cheeta sail- intetesting to notice speed differences
I was sailing with my mates on f2 lightning's and morgs on a Pacifico sup (8.8 canned sail)
i was outclassed by the F2 Lightning's but much for much on the reach with the Pacifico Of course I had it all on upwind as the Pacifico has no dagerboard.
Cheers jeff
Select to expand quoteRichardG said..ChrisD67 said..
I picked my LT today up from Windgenuity and had it in the water at Connells Point Sailing Club in Sydney by the afternoon. Couldn't believe how quick and simple it was to rig. I'm returning to the sport and haven't sailed anything for about 15 years. It was about 10knts. I got it going to windward no worries, hooked into the harness and just totally loved it. Yeah i stacked on tacks and gybes plenty of times but I could n't care, it was so easy to uphaul and get moving again.
I was a lot more unstable downwind, and the centreboard is still pretty tight. I sailed for as long as my body could take (about 90 mins). Overall all I had one of the best afternoons i can remember having for a long time. Super keen to go out again.
Spray the centreboard with Silicon lubricant it will move easily.....
Check your centreboard lips
if they overlap slightly, that is the problem!
Cobra have changed the design now as they found overlapping black lips are creating too much friction and causing them to split.
new design is that both lips just touch each other.
If you are handy you could trim yourself otherwise,
contact Windgenuity about it and they will arrange for a new set to be shipped to you if split or overlapping flaps.
very easy to replace, they clip in like electrical duct lid (if you're an Eleco)
place a screwdriver under lip on on one side at rear of slot (place a ruler or cardboard under screwdriver shaft to protect board from damage) lever lip up and it will pop out ease out at front end and slide back so the half round sail tape isn't disturbed.
hope that makes sense.
silicon spray also helps reduce stiffness.
Finally took the new Wally out on the lake and was very surprised how much fun it was (never had a long board before). Couple of questions where is the best place to put the mast track ? I also managed to ding it. It's through to the core a crack about 80-100mm can suck air through it. Does it need a full grind back re glass re fair re paint repair or just a jell coat fill in the crack.
I've got my mast almost all the way back, as with the One Design. If it starts really blowing I'll move it forward, again in the usual way. However there is a bit of variation at the front of the fleet, with some lightweights in One Designs moving the mast base forward.
