I can't seem to find any info. I have a friend who's got one and we've rigged it a few times but it feels yuck so a decent rigging guide will help.
I'm not much help as I'm used to rigging cammed sails.
Ask the guy who designed it.
Hot Sails Maui Forum -> Ask Jeffrey Henderson: http://www.hotsailsmaui.com/forum/viewforum.php?id=1
Get the correct mast and a long extension. Some lightweights use a shorter mast than specified and it works well. When he gets a bigger sail all should be good using the 400.
That's what I'd do but he's already not sure if he's going to continue. I'm pretty sure he won't get another mast..
I have GPX 6.0 and GPX 7.0 for my son. We use 400 and 430 RDM flextop masts with these respectively. They set pretty flat when rigged correctly. I tried bagging them out a bit but found they handled poorly doing that, so I stick to the settings
Maybe it's just that we haven't had enough wind? I have been pulling the outhaul on a cm or so. We set it up for the gusts but there weren't many of them.
re mast..
It's not ideal but it should still work as I think the luff is around 430cm ( haven't got the sail to check). I know it won't twist off as well .
I sailed my 5m with a 430 rather than 400 for years. It did have a turban top though.Now I have the correct mast for it I realise how much better it is but I got many PBs on it with the longer mast. That was a 4 cam sail though..
So how floppy do you set the leech on the 6m GPX? What are the visual cues that you have it right?
Hot Sails Maui, as a rule don't have a vario head, strap extension that allows a longer mast to stick out the top.
its possible without a hassle to retro fit, HSM will usually send one free.
sounds like 5.5m, a 6.0 takes a 430 luff, but does call for a 400 also.
my thought is the 430 is too stiff, and maybe have 14cm too much mast.
you can write Jeff at
hot@hotsailsmaui.com
this sail has a lot of range.
i dont think the sail knows knows how much the sailor weights, the sails too perform to its design want the correct mast.
HSM , are ok on SDM or RDM. The forum will have a recommended mast, of course the HSM masts. Rather on the soft top size is best.
Sorry.The turban sail I mentioned was my own prototype 2009 severne overdrive..I've posted on the forum and the dealer is helping out too. He suggested taking a photo to show him next time it's rigged. Dur, why didn't I think of that..
Rigged it with more downhaul today and it looked better. I still didn't go maximum as it was only 5 - 12kts plus occasional puff more so not enough for him to get planing.
sue it will be interesting to hear what jonathon says about the photo.
when i rig my hot sails freestyle pro the scallops in the sail are smaller. i know its a different sail...
so to me as a guess the sail looks like it is at max downhaul. the leech at the top batten is very loose. something looks off in the bottom of the sail too. maybe batten tension on the 2nd and 3rd bottom batten or reflections in the image but it looks like creases through the draft. mast stiffness could be affecting batten tension and draft.
there is not much draft either. be keen to see the sail with 2cm less downhaul.
Between the battens, from the top one, between 2-3 the scallop is too large. Max do should be about half that. I feel you are killing the power of the sail with..
this IMO is happening because the sail is setting too early using the 430. You must have the excess mast at the bottom.
the predecessor of this sail I think was the liquid, which I had , 7 -7.5 can't recall. Very nice .
i wish someone on the HSM forum would answer you. I still suggest contact Jeff Henderson via email , also post photo on there.
I was told by Geoff years ago in Maui that the simple rule to rigging his sails ( no cam) was to look at batten above boom.
If it was half way across mast that was min down haul.
If it just cleared mast that was max.
out haul then just adjusted between min and max to your preference.
I set batten in mid position then outhaul to max position and that's it.
on a crappy bitser old north dropshape mast, SDM.
using RDM only seems to help in waves.
To me your pic says maxxed out.
no thats not a problem if you have a short extension.
everything else though.... BIG problem.
who advised your mate to go down this path. there is a valuable lesson here..
ie
buy the recomended gear. rig to the sizes written on the sail.
your done.
go sailing.
any other path is flawed unless you really know what you're doing.
No experience with this sail, but I have the HSM Firelight 7.5. My rule of thumb for it is if it feels heavy on the front hand, not enough downhaul. If it feels dead then too much downhaul. If the downhaul feels right, but the draft feels like it's moving around, not enough outhaul.
I'm not so sure about rigging to sizes printed on sails , even with correct parts . They can be out and change with time .
Ive had a 2014 NP that was about 14 , yes 14 cm out of whack . An obvious misprint . I use correct mast and always rig to the crease method which is only sometimes perfect to the numbers .
Half of my sails have a my Texta number written next to the printed number , some over , some under . I have it so when max crease I have about one inch gap pulley to pulley , just in case I need a bees dick more . That gives me about two inches gap when underpowered .
Mabee I'm a bit anal but it makes me feel sick inside when I see on other peoples rigs more than two inches gap pulley to pulley
Please tell me I'm not alone or I may seek help .
I need to get out more
hey sbc i type too stiff mast in google and got directed to your seabreeze wrap sheet. ....
your severne, your sailworks and now your mates hotsail. stretches back to 2010.
i think an sbc intervention is required