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rigging guide for Hotsails maui GPX c 2017

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Created by sboardcrazy > 9 months ago, 23 Apr 2019
Stuthepirate

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30 Apr 2019 6:41PM
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30 Apr 2019 8:07PM
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Gestalt said..
hey sbc i type too stiff mast in google and got directed to your seabreeze wrap sheet. ....

your severne, your sailworks and now your mates hotsail. stretches back to 2010.

i think an sbc intervention is required



I have learnt though.. my sails now have the right masts..

sboardcrazy

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30 Apr 2019 8:12PM
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Gestalt said..


sboardcrazy said..



Here's what Jeff Henderson said about the photo of it rigged.

Great start! Probably a bit too much downhaul for the lighter winds- that is more of a 20knots + setting. Add some batten tension to the #4 and #5 battens too, they seem a little under tensioned.
Thanks, you are very close!









you should report back once you follow jeffs advice.



Yes, & don't expect the sail to have allot of "static" shape. Hotsails in general use a fairly rotational design & appear quite flat until the wind fills in - quite allot different from your cammed Severnes.


It's been a learning curve. When I first rigged it I remembered my 2008 revo non cammed sails and something about the 2nd batten from the top being straight out from the mast with the right downhaul??? Or something like that so I was surprised when I was told to rig it with a floppy leech more like my cammed Severnes .

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Gestalt said..
hey sbc i type too stiff mast in google and got directed to your seabreeze wrap sheet. ....

your severne, your sailworks and now your mates hotsail. stretches back to 2010.

i think an sbc intervention is required




I have learnt though.. my sails now have the right masts..


What did Jeff say about the 430 length VS the 400?

IMO You have now the partial right mast.

gorgesailor

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30 Apr 2019 11:36PM
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sboardcrazy said..

gorgesailor said..


Gestalt said..



sboardcrazy said..




Here's what Jeff Henderson said about the photo of it rigged.

Great start! Probably a bit too much downhaul for the lighter winds- that is more of a 20knots + setting. Add some batten tension to the #4 and #5 battens too, they seem a little under tensioned.
Thanks, you are very close!











you should report back once you follow jeffs advice.




Yes, & don't expect the sail to have allot of "static" shape. Hotsails in general use a fairly rotational design & appear quite flat until the wind fills in - quite allot different from your cammed Severnes.



It's been a learning curve. When I first rigged it I remembered my 2008 revo non cammed sails and something about the 2nd batten from the top being straight out from the mast with the right downhaul??? Or something like that so I was surprised when I was told to rig it with a floppy leech more like my cammed Severnes .


Yes, since it is a Freeride sail it will have a floppier leech - similar to your race sails. But the draft is trickier to judge. You can push on the sail with your hand near the boom to get an idea how deep the draft is when the wind hits it, or pump it on the beach if there is wind. Also, looking at batten rotation is good to do - it should be progressive, so the bottom batten should be crowding the mast the most, even rotating around it a bit but they should progressively pull away as you move up the sail. Definitely put some tension on those bottom battens to get the right shape in the lower section.

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sboardcrazy said..


Gestalt said..
hey sbc i type too stiff mast in google and got directed to your seabreeze wrap sheet. ....

your severne, your sailworks and now your mates hotsail. stretches back to 2010.

i think an sbc intervention is required





I have learnt though.. my sails now have the right masts..



What did Jeff say about the 430 length VS the 400?

IMO You have now the partial right mast.


I posted this earlier but it was hidden and you had to expand it so here it is again

' So that size sails can be rigged on a 430 mast, BUT the pulley will not be able to be as close to the base cleet as the base part usually ads 5-7cm of length to the mast specification.
Other than that, the sail should be ok, and have a bit more low wind power with the longer, stiffer mast.
It is important to downhaul the sail enough to get some loose leech. With a 430 mast this pressure will be increased a lot due to the stiffer mast. I strongly suggest a crank tool to set the proper downhaul.
Once the outhaul setting, the specificed amount should be fine until sailing in stronger wind, when you should be sure to increase the outhaul tension, even beyond the listed amount for maximum outhaul. This will allow better high wind control on this stiffer mast."
Jeff

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forceten said..


sboardcrazy said..



Gestalt said..
hey sbc i type too stiff mast in google and got directed to your seabreeze wrap sheet. ....

your severne, your sailworks and now your mates hotsail. stretches back to 2010.

i think an sbc intervention is required






I have learnt though.. my sails now have the right masts..




What did Jeff say about the 430 length VS the 400?

IMO You have now the partial right mast.



I posted this earlier but it was hidden and you had to expand it so here it is again

' So that size sails can be rigged on a 430 mast, BUT the pulley will not be able to be as close to the base cleet as the base part usually ads 5-7cm of length to the mast specification.
Other than that, the sail should be ok, and have a bit more low wind power with the longer, stiffer mast.
It is important to downhaul the sail enough to get some loose leech. With a 430 mast this pressure will be increased a lot due to the stiffer mast. I strongly suggest a crank tool to set the proper downhaul.
Once the outhaul setting, the specificed amount should be fine until sailing in stronger wind, when you should be sure to increase the outhaul tension, even beyond the listed amount for maximum outhaul. This will allow better high wind control on this stiffer mast."
Jeff


I did not see that before. Jeff has said , it's ok on a 430, in detail, how to rig the extra stiffness.
to add dh and outhaul , it will detune the sail, where at some point it kills the effectiveness.

sboardcrazy

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2 May 2019 7:58AM
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sboardcrazy said..


forceten said..



sboardcrazy said..




Gestalt said..
hey sbc i type too stiff mast in google and got directed to your seabreeze wrap sheet. ....

your severne, your sailworks and now your mates hotsail. stretches back to 2010.

i think an sbc intervention is required







I have learnt though.. my sails now have the right masts..





What did Jeff say about the 430 length VS the 400?

IMO You have now the partial right mast.




I posted this earlier but it was hidden and you had to expand it so here it is again

' So that size sails can be rigged on a 430 mast, BUT the pulley will not be able to be as close to the base cleet as the base part usually ads 5-7cm of length to the mast specification.
Other than that, the sail should be ok, and have a bit more low wind power with the longer, stiffer mast.
It is important to downhaul the sail enough to get some loose leech. With a 430 mast this pressure will be increased a lot due to the stiffer mast. I strongly suggest a crank tool to set the proper downhaul.
Once the outhaul setting, the specificed amount should be fine until sailing in stronger wind, when you should be sure to increase the outhaul tension, even beyond the listed amount for maximum outhaul. This will allow better high wind control on this stiffer mast."
Jeff



I did not see that before. Jeff has said , it's ok on a 430, in detail, how to rig the extra stiffness.
to add dh and outhaul , it will detune the sail, where at some point it kills the effectiveness.


Not ideal but he's free riding and wants a minimal no fuss setup. If he enjoys it enough maybe he'll get some extra sails that will suit the 430 mast.

Gestalt

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2 May 2019 8:28AM
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this no fuss setup seems to be pretty fussy.

who advised him to buy the wrong mast for the sail.

sboardcrazy

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2 May 2019 2:38PM
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I wasn't involved with that. It happened a few years ago...The mast works. It's just not ideal with that size sail. I think the idea was he'd need a bigger sail later and that mast would then do for both sails.

Gestalt

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3 May 2019 7:38AM
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what a shame. i know im stating the obvious but they would have been better off buying the right mast first and then using that in the future sail. then being smaller and softer it would still be ok for their ligher weight.

current setup is like buying a petrol car and running it on diesel because one day you'll buy a diesel car.


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