Select to expand quotethedoor said..Awalkspoiled said..thedoor said..Awalkspoiled said..
Duzzi - crazily enough the Dacron isn't heavy. Jeff isn't using the tarpaulin material early Windsurfer sails were made out of, but something lighter and less stretchy. My 10.0 Speedfreak - essentially an all-dacron sail - is FOUR POUNDS lighter than my 9.3 Point7 AC1. Some of that is extra battens and cams but a lot of it is the extremely light material. It's also extremely strong compared with monofilm. My 7.5 7-batten Speedfreak is a pound and a half lighter than a 7.5 Ezzy Zephyr and much more fun to use. I've foiled on both, which I could never do with that Point7.
They're harder to tune than other sails, because it's harder to visualize the twist when on the beach, but it's pretty easy to see on the water. Not everyone likes the spongy feel they offer, but I kinda do.
Thinking about adding some full race sails for speed sailing. When do you go with the AC1 over the speedfreak?
The Point7 was a mistake, at least for me (and I'm selling it, at a loss, this weekend, I hope) although I bought it used and at barely 1/4 of full retail. It is insanely fast, as Duzzi points out, points incredibly high and will handle an unbelievable amount of wind. However, it's just brutal to rig, even using all the tricks. It requires a big pop coming out of jibes to get it to rotate and when underpowered I'm really aware of the extra weight, likewise if I'm anything but utterly committed when jibing and tacking - all this on the correct 100% Point7 mast. That's when I'm holding it up - when it's holding me up, fully powered, that's less of an issue. I'm sure I'd love the ACZ.
I've replaced it with a Sailworks NX 8.6 which is better mannered, handles just as much wind, can be foiled if need be and for someone at my level is just as fast. If I'm really overpowered I can usually just put a smaller fin on and downhaul to the limit and be fine. I don't believe I lose any low end at all versus the 9.3 AC1, because the NX is easy to pump. I'll use the NX when I know I'll be planing, so 14-20kt wind (9-14kt if I'm foiling). I use the 10.0 SF when I know it'll be up and down - 8-18kt. It's not fun when it gets up past that but the stretchy feel makes even very strong gusts manageable. It's not as fast as the NX but it's really not slow either - I have 28mph off the wind in flatwater on a Kona Carbone on that sail, which is a little nuts. Doesn't point nearly as high as the racier sails of course.
interesting I have been seriously considering the sailworks Nx too. sounds like you like it ..
Talking about point-7: i am ordering an acz 6.8. This is a twin cam with both cams under the boom. It got an excellent review on windsurfing uk. I am very happy with my point-7 acx, that are as fast as my previous hot sail Maui gps dowwind, but I am just curious to try the acz. I expect more stability up wind, and an even bigger range than the acx, that is already impressive, and a better spaced quiver, 6.0-6.8-7.5. I expect it in December, first time in in Jan/feb .
Select to expand quoteduzzi said..thedoor said..Awalkspoiled said..thedoor said..Awalkspoiled said..
Duzzi - crazily enough the Dacron isn't heavy. Jeff isn't using the tarpaulin material early Windsurfer sails were made out of, but something lighter and less stretchy. My 10.0 Speedfreak - essentially an all-dacron sail - is FOUR POUNDS lighter than my 9.3 Point7 AC1. Some of that is extra battens and cams but a lot of it is the extremely light material. It's also extremely strong compared with monofilm. My 7.5 7-batten Speedfreak is a pound and a half lighter than a 7.5 Ezzy Zephyr and much more fun to use. I've foiled on both, which I could never do with that Point7.
They're harder to tune than other sails, because it's harder to visualize the twist when on the beach, but it's pretty easy to see on the water. Not everyone likes the spongy feel they offer, but I kinda do.
Thinking about adding some full race sails for speed sailing. When do you go with the AC1 over the speedfreak?
The Point7 was a mistake, at least for me (and I'm selling it, at a loss, this weekend, I hope) although I bought it used and at barely 1/4 of full retail. It is insanely fast, as Duzzi points out, points incredibly high and will handle an unbelievable amount of wind. However, it's just brutal to rig, even using all the tricks. It requires a big pop coming out of jibes to get it to rotate and when underpowered I'm really aware of the extra weight, likewise if I'm anything but utterly committed when jibing and tacking - all this on the correct 100% Point7 mast. That's when I'm holding it up - when it's holding me up, fully powered, that's less of an issue. I'm sure I'd love the ACZ.
I've replaced it with a Sailworks NX 8.6 which is better mannered, handles just as much wind, can be foiled if need be and for someone at my level is just as fast. If I'm really overpowered I can usually just put a smaller fin on and downhaul to the limit and be fine. I don't believe I lose any low end at all versus the 9.3 AC1, because the NX is easy to pump. I'll use the NX when I know I'll be planing, so 14-20kt wind (9-14kt if I'm foiling). I use the 10.0 SF when I know it'll be up and down - 8-18kt. It's not fun when it gets up past that but the stretchy feel makes even very strong gusts manageable. It's not as fast as the NX but it's really not slow either - I have 28mph off the wind in flatwater on a Kona Carbone on that sail, which is a little nuts. Doesn't point nearly as high as the racier sails of course.
interesting I have been seriously considering the sailworks Nx too. sounds like you like it ..
Talking about point-7: i am ordering an acz 6.8. This is a twin cam with both cams under the boom. It got an excellent review on windsurfing uk. I am very happy with my point-7 acx, that are as fast as my previous hot sail Maui gps dowwind, but I am just curious to try the acz. I expect more stability up wind, and an even bigger range than the acx, that is already impressive, and a better spaced quiver, 6.0-6.8-7.5. I expect it in December, first time in in Jan/feb .
The z does look tempting.
Select to expand quotethedoor said..duzzi said..thedoor said..Awalkspoiled said..thedoor said..Awalkspoiled said..
Duzzi - crazily enough the Dacron isn't heavy. Jeff isn't using the tarpaulin material early Windsurfer sails were made out of, but something lighter and less stretchy. My 10.0 Speedfreak - essentially an all-dacron sail - is FOUR POUNDS lighter than my 9.3 Point7 AC1. Some of that is extra battens and cams but a lot of it is the extremely light material. It's also extremely strong compared with monofilm. My 7.5 7-batten Speedfreak is a pound and a half lighter than a 7.5 Ezzy Zephyr and much more fun to use. I've foiled on both, which I could never do with that Point7.
They're harder to tune than other sails, because it's harder to visualize the twist when on the beach, but it's pretty easy to see on the water. Not everyone likes the spongy feel they offer, but I kinda do.
Thinking about adding some full race sails for speed sailing. When do you go with the AC1 over the speedfreak?
The Point7 was a mistake, at least for me (and I'm selling it, at a loss, this weekend, I hope) although I bought it used and at barely 1/4 of full retail. It is insanely fast, as Duzzi points out, points incredibly high and will handle an unbelievable amount of wind. However, it's just brutal to rig, even using all the tricks. It requires a big pop coming out of jibes to get it to rotate and when underpowered I'm really aware of the extra weight, likewise if I'm anything but utterly committed when jibing and tacking - all this on the correct 100% Point7 mast. That's when I'm holding it up - when it's holding me up, fully powered, that's less of an issue. I'm sure I'd love the ACZ.
I've replaced it with a Sailworks NX 8.6 which is better mannered, handles just as much wind, can be foiled if need be and for someone at my level is just as fast. If I'm really overpowered I can usually just put a smaller fin on and downhaul to the limit and be fine. I don't believe I lose any low end at all versus the 9.3 AC1, because the NX is easy to pump. I'll use the NX when I know I'll be planing, so 14-20kt wind (9-14kt if I'm foiling). I use the 10.0 SF when I know it'll be up and down - 8-18kt. It's not fun when it gets up past that but the stretchy feel makes even very strong gusts manageable. It's not as fast as the NX but it's really not slow either - I have 28mph off the wind in flatwater on a Kona Carbone on that sail, which is a little nuts. Doesn't point nearly as high as the racier sails of course.
interesting I have been seriously considering the sailworks Nx too. sounds like you like it ..
Talking about point-7: i am ordering an acz 6.8. This is a twin cam with both cams under the boom. It got an excellent review on windsurfing uk. I am very happy with my point-7 acx, that are as fast as my previous hot sail Maui gps dowwind, but I am just curious to try the acz. I expect more stability up wind, and an even bigger range than the acx, that is already impressive, and a better spaced quiver, 6.0-6.8-7.5. I expect it in December, first time in in Jan/feb .
The z does look tempting.
Welcome to try it when it gets here!
Select to expand quoteduzzi said..thedoor said..duzzi said..thedoor said..Awalkspoiled said..thedoor said..Awalkspoiled said..
Duzzi - crazily enough the Dacron isn't heavy. Jeff isn't using the tarpaulin material early Windsurfer sails were made out of, but something lighter and less stretchy. My 10.0 Speedfreak - essentially an all-dacron sail - is FOUR POUNDS lighter than my 9.3 Point7 AC1. Some of that is extra battens and cams but a lot of it is the extremely light material. It's also extremely strong compared with monofilm. My 7.5 7-batten Speedfreak is a pound and a half lighter than a 7.5 Ezzy Zephyr and much more fun to use. I've foiled on both, which I could never do with that Point7.
They're harder to tune than other sails, because it's harder to visualize the twist when on the beach, but it's pretty easy to see on the water. Not everyone likes the spongy feel they offer, but I kinda do.
Thinking about adding some full race sails for speed sailing. When do you go with the AC1 over the speedfreak?
The Point7 was a mistake, at least for me (and I'm selling it, at a loss, this weekend, I hope) although I bought it used and at barely 1/4 of full retail. It is insanely fast, as Duzzi points out, points incredibly high and will handle an unbelievable amount of wind. However, it's just brutal to rig, even using all the tricks. It requires a big pop coming out of jibes to get it to rotate and when underpowered I'm really aware of the extra weight, likewise if I'm anything but utterly committed when jibing and tacking - all this on the correct 100% Point7 mast. That's when I'm holding it up - when it's holding me up, fully powered, that's less of an issue. I'm sure I'd love the ACZ.
I've replaced it with a Sailworks NX 8.6 which is better mannered, handles just as much wind, can be foiled if need be and for someone at my level is just as fast. If I'm really overpowered I can usually just put a smaller fin on and downhaul to the limit and be fine. I don't believe I lose any low end at all versus the 9.3 AC1, because the NX is easy to pump. I'll use the NX when I know I'll be planing, so 14-20kt wind (9-14kt if I'm foiling). I use the 10.0 SF when I know it'll be up and down - 8-18kt. It's not fun when it gets up past that but the stretchy feel makes even very strong gusts manageable. It's not as fast as the NX but it's really not slow either - I have 28mph off the wind in flatwater on a Kona Carbone on that sail, which is a little nuts. Doesn't point nearly as high as the racier sails of course.
interesting I have been seriously considering the sailworks Nx too. sounds like you like it ..
Talking about point-7: i am ordering an acz 6.8. This is a twin cam with both cams under the boom. It got an excellent review on windsurfing uk. I am very happy with my point-7 acx, that are as fast as my previous hot sail Maui gps dowwind, but I am just curious to try the acz. I expect more stability up wind, and an even bigger range than the acx, that is already impressive, and a better spaced quiver, 6.0-6.8-7.5. I expect it in December, first time in in Jan/feb .
The z does look tempting.
Welcome to try it when it gets here!
Thanks
