2015 Year of the SUP Surf Slate/Vanguard/Tomo.....

So those three brands seem to have their marketing team on top of things. I can't seem to find anything on that Starboard Vanguard, as in a professional website.

I'm still on the fence with these Vanguard models. Might try and demo one during the holidays.

Thanks Zues will be interesting to see Zane on it . Have to Say from my personal experience 8-0 x 31.5 does not work.

The Nut.....shortboards tail and longboard nose........is this not what is normally known as a Minimal?

He was going to ride it in the last day in Morocco but i think he was trying to hide it from the lenses.
He was just getting shacked on his backhand on a slab 100m north from the comp site right after the comp was off.

For those of you who have not seen it in person, the nut concept is not about a narrow tail and a longboard nose.
It's about a rail that mixes the rail line from a much shorter board with a longboard nose. I've tried a prototype that had the tail and rail line from the 7'1 inzane model blent with a front rail line and nose similar to those on the pocket rocket. A really nice ripper, with really easy manners!

Nice Kami but that is really getting away from the straight rail theory , keep us posted and lets see how it goes. In some discussions I have had with other shapers they want to get tail width down with straighter rails in front exactly what you have done.

Zane's Hypernut is a 6'10 x 23" and he completely rips on that thing.
Wow that's small if he can ride that it will rip.

Hey Piros, I haven't seen the Naish version. Where do I find it?

The reason why Australian Waterman/Gulliver don't reply is because they have a policy of staying off forums and advertising instead through this website. So I doubt that you will get a lot of info directly from them, unless you call or email them directly through their website featured previously.. I think the price above mentioned is for a package and it includes a lighter interwoven carbon innegra layup as well as a carbon fin setup that works, vbox cover etc I suppose the price would be less if they were copying the lay ups of other brands boards fins etc .. as the materials etc would be cheaper.. Fin setups are super important and this has been tested along with the development of the boards.. I have seen and heard of vboxs going out of the shop a lot cheaper than that and they also take care of repeat customers with regard to turning over boards etc. give them a call directly go into his shop at Burleigh Heads or an email if you want to talk Turkey

I think you will find that Australian Waterman includes grip fitted as well.. A lot of other board companies will have you buy it and put it on at your own time and expense. And then you will be asked if you would like fries with that and maybe a large coke, fins, legrope etc for an extra $250..

It depends on the shape: tail width, concaves, rocker...
I guess the important thing is to be sure to have plenty of fin boxes :-)

For instance this is what I use: from left to right:
- 6'10" Simmons, twin fins on the tail. I can move them one plug forward for small waves.
- 6'8" Fast "fish" for weak waves. A nubster or 5th trailer fin can help for bigger waves
- 6'10" for hollow waves
As you can see, fin positions can vary a lot between not-so-distant shapes, so I am not able to tell exactly what is the best for other brands. Just that I was very surprisez how bad the Simmons shspe was working with a modern quad setup...