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Cf the **** outta here mate you are just fishing now

The amount of ding repair people on the coast who will not deal with pop outs unless business is slow is in the many as the people who own them are generally entitled ****s,you know what I'm saying,like most new 666 people, so to even quote a repair for these people is painful ....my board cost this much why are you charging this much blah blah

Yes i have had local shapers make me some badly built boards and they will never get a cent or a good word from me again...

Yet i have boards that have been surfed a 1000 times and look better than the majority of pop outs out there that have been surfed 10 times

I know if steve del rosso from clearwater ever let a poor quality board go through the door he would rectify it immediately as i have seen it happen

Yet the number of complaints against the whorehouse are many for warranty and customer service

I bought a McCoy popout on your review elsewhere and it was one of the worse boards i have ever owned and trying to get the issue sorted was harder than changing internet providers and even then i was on the losing end

Hydro one thing in the whole shaping process, and the most important is the final sanding of the board...i know where my money is for getting it right

Edit. Cf why will people not design something that will last longer? What do you think is the reason ? I think there is so many different reasons why

I came back to change how i wrote things not what i wrote if that makes sense,but you beat me cf

On the **** outta here ,i did that as i would have done if i was replying to you as if we were having a beer together and getting into it so to speak...but hey that is the internet sometimes and **** does not always go as expected, or understood as the way we expect it to be understood ...my bad

Asking a fair question,it is if you think it is ,as i thought my response was

I was stating the majority of pop outs for what i was saying not what you said.

I like mccoys shapes, i just hated the pop out one as i stated because of the build quality and customer service. I didn't critisise the shape so ,im not sure on the confusion on that one


I am one who is fighting for a healthier planet and that is why i love people like my mate shane from rocket ace eco surfboards
but again my pu boards made a bit heavier than the epoxy popouts will still outlast them and a firewire...i have owned both boards ...shame josh dowling had to give it away because he was on my list...sorry just a mind wander


I also agree that we have so much tech that our materials should be way better...but surfing is a small industry and who has the money to keep spending on the what ifs...unlike how f1 car tech will always trickle down.

I know the crew at shapers are spending a big whack on finding out more,people like shane again and he is a one man passionate band...so like anything it comes down to money ...


But yeh and nah cf....i love everything you bring to the table about surfing, but the **** outta here im gonna agree with all of it

For those quadruple knee high day days?, you're a ripper I have seen plenty of spray flying when you get your Bondi bronzed Aussie mojo on

No winners in a race to the bottom.

You guys have all missed the point of what SBWH brings to the market.

Choice and opportunity.

And here is what I find interesting.

You all bang on about kooks in the lineup on their SBWH boards, you all get pissy about them being out their having a crack at it on sub standard, environmentally unfriendly, race to the bottom POS boards stealing waves.

And you all bang on about them and other similar marketing models and brands killing the local industry.

You want all the waves to yourselves and whinge about the influx of new kooks but then whine about them not buying Aussie made.

When you should embrace them in the lineup, encourage them to progress and improve, to discern what they need to improve and to steer them towards opportunity for local shapers.

These boards are an untapped gold mine for local shapers, they are entry level priced with reasonable performance or bang for their buck. They engage people who otherwise might not enter the sport to do so by being so cost effective, it provides that opportunity to them.

This expands the upcoming market of surfers who once they have defined their style and taste will then demand better boards, and guess what? If pop out boards are as bad as you all claim and not up to the demands of the users then they will shop for something that will specifically meet their needs.

You can't have it all, you can't whine about all the kooks but then demand all the business, you can't demand all the waves and have a ****e attitude in the lineup because that will reflect on the "brands" that you ride.

People are gonna see a a bunch of crusty old grumpy turds on their shiny locally made bling boards hogging all the waves, and they are gonna see packs of kooks on their pop outs in the lineups having a blast.

Who do you think they will look at? Who's branding will they see most?

Embrace the kook, ask him or her questions about their ride, share your knowledge and wisdom and educate them in the lineup, inspire and encourage them to look to the amazing benefits of a custom board or one that is Aussie made.

I do that every surf, I make sure I strike up a convo about someones ride, what they are riding, size guessing, hows it ride? Where did they get it? Why that style or brand? How does it ride for them? etc... Never once has anyone told me to shut the hell up and F off when it comes to talking about their ride, everyone who know anything loves to talk rides. And if you hit a kook who basically says "dunno it was cheap", bam gold mine. Give them some tips, show them your ride, compare it to theirs etc.

Do that and it will have a greater effect on the Oz board making scene than any whining, word of mouth and genuine references will beat any slick marketing campaign by any board maker. Otherwise why would so much emphasis be placed on testimonials?

Because surfing and board performance is subjective, and if so and so is riding one and says they are great then it must be true.

Opportunities guys, opportunities.

I Almost died reading that heh maybe next time short and simple might help get your point across better without all the blah blah blah nonsense

Hey buddy my mate owns 3 SBW boards.