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Motion GPS

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Created by Farang > 9 months ago, 18 Feb 2021
John340
QLD, 3227 posts
23 Jun 2021 9:42PM
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John340 said..
FedEx have advised that my LCD Motion will be delivered today!


The new LCD Motion unpacked and charging. Thanks Julien.




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NP RGSD said..
That's awesome John , how long ago did you order your motion



Well worth the wait.

conormate
NSW, 25 posts
9 Jul 2021 2:45PM
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JulienLe said..
All devices leaving now are either replacements for the "black lines on screen" issue, or devices paid when the issue was found out, or devices paid when the project needed financial support (thank you).

Farang above entered the queue December 2019 as I had the question before.

Once these are all done, I'll tackle the unpaid non-binding waiting list.

So it'll be January 2022 before everything is resorbed and one can enter and receive a device in 3 weeks or so.

But to give some perspective: it's a miracle they are back. This is LCD trial #10. Plus casings changed, buttons are now protruding, strap underneath, everything is wireless.


In other news, more parts have arrived, casings have doubled in price and I'm discussing with UPS to replace FedEx.


Hi Juliene, you have mentioned a few weeks ago that all devices leaving now, were devices that had been paid. I suspect our order from March 2020 would be part of these devices being despactched. We have not recieved any information on tracking etc yet. Can you please advise as to where we are in this queue?
I see that some have recieved their devices which is comforting, however, we would really really love to know when we would expect to recieve our order.
Apologies for adopting this thread for information, however this seems to be the only reliable feedback we can achieve so far.
Looking forward to your response
Conor
StGeorge SC Speed Team

JulienLe
405 posts
9 Jul 2021 3:09PM
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There's four australian mixed orders (LCD+Mini) including yours leaving Monday by UPS.

I lost 6 LCD last weekend to an oven overheating overnight. I lost 1 more yesterday to stupidity. So the pecking order is reversed. LCD+Mini now, LCD only next week.

I got many new armbands cut. It will be blue and orange only from now on. Same for Mini straps: blue and orange only as black have an annoyingly different thickness.

New Mini casings arrived, new LCD casings arrive in two weeks.

I have one parcel with unobtainium chips stuck in customs/UPS for a month. If it doesn't make it here, it'll be hell.

Still zero issue on display #10 so far.

You can ask here, it's easier for everyone. I'll reply to non-urgent emails tonight. I'll contact a few of you with orders waiting for payment next week.

Them the news. =)

mikey100
QLD, 1064 posts
9 Jul 2021 6:30PM
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Thanks Julien. You are always on top of it.

conormate
NSW, 25 posts
9 Jul 2021 6:59PM
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Thanks for the prompt reply mate, much appreciated.

BSN101
WA, 2326 posts
9 Jul 2021 10:31PM
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Email sent. cheers Dave

Trucker Bob
18 posts
11 Jul 2021 8:57PM
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Please don't forget me Julien!
Bob Conace-bconace@aol.com

SSchei
26 posts
12 Jul 2021 12:58AM
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what product you have developed, JulienLe!I am very happy and recommend your products to all my friends.

MattDowse
NSW, 174 posts
13 Jul 2021 9:50PM
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Hi Julien
Just wondering if my order will be sent this week?
Thanks

CrimsonFlash
WA, 71 posts
15 Jul 2021 6:54PM
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Hi Julien, another query to see if my order is close to ready for shipping to Perth (3 LCD Motions, one was in lieu of 2 mini loggers as previously agreed).
Regards

Dan P.

JulienLe
405 posts
19 Jul 2021 5:23PM
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Hello,

I inverted the schedule between "many LCD, few Mini" shipments and "few LCD, many Mini" shipments when I ruined many LCD two weekends ago. New LCD for LCD-only shipments will be finished this week. I'll post back here when shipping starts.

New blue straps are also thicker than they used to so Mini straps are now red or orange only.

New LCD casings arrived.

Teams who've ordered many devices earlier and who have current or new orders going will now receive spares. So spares can become easier/faster access than now.

And in three weeks I'll send a batch of Mini for those who couldn't order as part of a team.

Motsbane
QLD, 179 posts
21 Jul 2021 9:13PM
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JulienLe said..
Hello,

I inverted the schedule between "many LCD, few Mini" shipments and "few LCD, many Mini" shipments when I ruined many LCD two weekends ago. New LCD for LCD-only shipments will be finished this week. I'll post back here when shipping starts.

New blue straps are also thicker than they used to so Mini straps are now red or orange only.

New LCD casings arrived.

Teams who've ordered many devices earlier and who have current or new orders going will now receive spares. So spares can become easier/faster access than now.

And in three weeks I'll send a batch of Mini for those who couldn't order as part of a team.


Can I line up at individual /non team please? The three week one.
Cheers!

Tom

conormate
NSW, 25 posts
22 Jul 2021 6:54PM
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JulienLe said..
All devices leaving now are either replacements for the "black lines on screen" issue, or devices paid when the issue was found out, or devices paid when the project needed financial support (thank you).

Farang above entered the queue December 2019 as I had the question before.

Once these are all done, I'll tackle the unpaid non-binding waiting list.

So it'll be January 2022 before everything is resorbed and one can enter and receive a device in 3 weeks or so.

But to give some perspective: it's a miracle they are back. This is LCD trial #10. Plus casings changed, buttons are now protruding, strap underneath, everything is wireless.


In other news, more parts have arrived, casings have doubled in price and I'm discussing with UPS to replace FedEx.




Hi Juliene, you have mentioned a few weeks ago that all devices leaving now, were devices that had been paid. I suspect our order from March 2020 would be part of these devices being despactched. We have not recieved any information on tracking etc yet. Can you please advise as to where we are in this queue?
I see that some have recieved their devices which is comforting, however, we would really really love to know when we would expect to recieve our order.
Apologies for adopting this thread for information, however this seems to be the only reliable feedback we can achieve so far.
Looking forward to your response
Conor
StGeorge SC Speed Team



Order received today, thanks Juliene. Looking forward to setting up the devices and having a crack this weekend on the water.







JulienLe
405 posts
24 Jul 2021 9:59PM
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Tell you what, after these two poor years for the devices and competition in general, it's cool to see them in use again:



(Not sponsored, I was looking for the Tokyo RS:X schedule and stumbled on this on windsurfjournal)

In other news, I made the first trials with the new LCD casings today and a quarter of them are good for the bin. I have another manufacturer lined up, no biggy. The grind continues.

sailquik
VIC, 6149 posts
25 Jul 2021 3:25PM
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Fantastic to see!

Check out the sail size! Makes perfect sense to me.





decrepit
WA, 12374 posts
25 Jul 2021 1:54PM
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wow 40kts on a foil!
Nice to see the motion, but just gets me more impatient to get mine!
Especially as the GW60 has died and I'm back to the GW52, that only does max speed and 10s ave

JulienLe
405 posts
27 Jul 2021 4:25AM
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There's a stupid bug in the LCD firmware I'll send a bugfix for tomorrow. In the meantime, do not use "Reduce backlight level to: 0% if speed below 0" in the settings. The display would stay off.

Had a heart attack because I thought this was the first LCD issue on the new ones but it's more than likely a stupid firmware bug.

decrepit
WA, 12374 posts
27 Jul 2021 8:27AM
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thanks Julien, hope you haven't traded a heart attack for a big headache, solving the bug.

John340
QLD, 3227 posts
27 Jul 2021 10:44AM
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There's a stupid bug in the LCD firmware I'll send a bugfix for tomorrow. In the meantime, do not use "Reduce backlight level to: 0% if speed below 0" in the settings. The display would stay off.

Had a heart attack because I thought this was the first LCD issue on the new ones but it's more than likely a stupid firmware bug.


Julien, my LCD has been trouble free over 6 sessions in the last month. It's a great unit. I'm looking forward to the update of the firmware.

JulienLe
405 posts
28 Jul 2021 12:57AM
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Waiting for the user impacted to confirm it's solved. Anyway, it's not a recommended/useful upgrade.

There's a massive mistake in my first UPS invoice so this shipping company change isn't settled yet. More Monday when the salesperson comes back from holidays. I've been billed each parcel at default price instead of each shipment. In other words, the bill is about three times bigger than expected as I send multiple parcels per shipment to respect IATA rules. I sure hope it's a mistake but I sent inquiries to DPD and PostNL anyway.

Reindt
5 posts
29 Jul 2021 4:39PM
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Hi Julien, i've tried to contact you by messenger, normaly it works but I gues you're busy. I've noticed that you are a regular reader and poster on this forum so i'll contact you via this way.
Anyway you've told me end of april that it would last approxematly 3 weeks that i'll got mine, but we are now end of july, do you have a status update? You can contact me via Messenger if you like (Rein Fierloos, from the Netherlands, a send a last message on july 18).

Dezza
NSW, 935 posts
29 Jul 2021 9:04PM
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Rein, if you've read everything on here you'll know there's a long wait time for the reasons julien has detailed on this forum. I have an outstanding group order for LCDs in October 2020, plus a more recent minis order, waiting patiently, would hate to see people trying to jump the queue.

Reindt
5 posts
30 Jul 2021 3:09AM
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Dezza said..
Rein, if you've read everything on here you'll know there's a long wait time for the reasons julien has detailed on this forum. I have an outstanding group order for LCDs in October 2020, plus a more recent minis order, waiting patiently, would hate to see people trying to jump the queue.


Dear Dezza, I already had a Motion before many of you heard of it. I unfortunately have the version with the black stripes in the screen. I am aware of all the problems that Julien has had regarding this problem as I have been in good contact with Julien all this time. I was promised that I would get a good version when the problem was solved, I all know that it has all been very bad for Julien. My message is about Julien telling me on April 18th that I should expect my Motion in about 3 weeks. So don't judge what you don't know about.

Dezza
NSW, 935 posts
30 Jul 2021 8:22AM
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Rein, that's good you're aware of the issues, a few of us have had many emails/messages about imminent arrival too, including some with the early screen lines like yours. You can't really expect Julien to give individual updates on here. It's good to see some are arriving now though, that shows he's working through his list.

YP1
SA, 134 posts
30 Jul 2021 9:03AM
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Dezza said..
Rein, if you've read everything on here you'll know there's a long wait time for the reasons julien has detailed on this forum. I have an outstanding group order for LCDs in October 2020, plus a more recent minis order, waiting patiently, would hate to see people trying to jump the queue.


I am Jan2020 still waiting, so he's got a few to go

Motsbane
QLD, 179 posts
30 Jul 2021 4:16PM
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Dezza said..
Rein, if you've read everything on here you'll know there's a long wait time for the reasons julien has detailed on this forum. I have an outstanding group order for LCDs in October 2020, plus a more recent minis order, waiting patiently, would hate to see people trying to jump the queue.



I am Jan2020 still waiting, so he's got a few to go


WHAT????

JulienLe
405 posts
30 Jul 2021 4:14PM
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Derryn > Rein's indeed in the 2019 black line replacement queue. About devices showing up: I sent many many and only Conor mentionned receiving his lately so forums aren't really representative. This week's was smaller but the next one is another huge batch.

Rein > yes sorry I'll send it the week of August 9th. I only check julien@motion-gps.com and Seabreeze. I try to respect a 50/50 in LCD shipments between regular orders and 2019 LCD replacements but within that latter queue there's 3 subdivisions because some displays are still perfect, some have lines, some have gone completely dark. And with time passing, many moved from some lines to completely dark skewing the shipping order.

Motsbane > it's not the device you would like. It's the other one that was paused for more than a year to find a replacement display.

Firmware > user concerned confirmed it's solved, I'll put the firmware on the website but I wouldn't bother upgrading if I were you. It's a very narrow issue and there's a big firmware update coming next weekend.

Reindt
5 posts
30 Jul 2021 11:25PM
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Thanks Julien.. I'll send you an email via julien@motion-gps.com 'cause I'm on a holyday adress untill august 21 and it would be nice I am able to use the device here.

GreenEgg
8 posts
2 Aug 2021 5:43PM
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When 2 doppler devices are being being compared where one receives 12 satellites with a 0.8 Hdop and the other receives 16 satellites with a 1.6 Hdop ... which of of both devices will be most accurate ?

decrepit
WA, 12374 posts
2 Aug 2021 8:53PM
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GreenEgg said..
When 2 doppler devices are being being compared where one receives 12 satellites with a 0.8 Hdop and the other receives 16 satellites with a 1.6 Hdop ... which of of both devices will be most accurate ?



I think HDoP is a measure of positional accuracy not doppler speed accuracy. If you're interested in doppler speed accuracy you need to check SDoP or SAcc if it's a ublox device.

I've just checked a file with both HDoP and SDoP, when SDoP shows less accuracy the HDoP goes higher, so looks like the 1.6 is less accurate, for position, but that's not necessarily true for doppler speed.



So you can see by the track here an obvious spike, positional data says it's 29kts, doppler data says 15 knots.
HDoP is 2.4, SDoP is +/-1.67 kts. There will be a bit of correspondence between the two because they are both subject to the same bad satellite signals.
So the SDoP tells you the speed was 15.667 +/- 1.672Kts.
The positional data says it was 29.162 kts with HDoP of 2.4



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