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TooMuchEpoxy
Lots of your comments don't add up. Gofoil is criticized as the most front footed foils of all (too lifty). Maybe the home made tail is incompatible.
100 kgs on a 24.5 mast trying to pump an NL160. If my understanding is correct the small mast is much flexier and being that short wont help either. I have seen big guys pump an NL160 effectively (2 and 3 for ones) but I don't think you can expect it to pump like a higher aspect wing like the 1210. Now the 1210 is known for its glide and pump but not its speed.
Pumping a 1210 better than a PNL also suggests something is very wrong with your setup. I have seen some ripping done on a PNL by big guys but it is 105cm wide and a downwind wing so obviously it wont surf as well as 93cms wide.
RS1000 is almost exactly the same wingspan and chord as the 980
RS 1150 is almost the same dimensions as the 1210. If you were suited to the 1210 then it seems obvious.
I think at your weight it is such a balancing act going for pump because it will compromise your turning. You don't have a choice but to trade these thing off. 980 cant pump like 1210 but 1210 cant turn like 980. Maybe the NL190 with a better mast and tail would have been more comparable on the turning and the pumping to the 1210.
I think anyone would agree the kujira's were great all round foils in terms of performance.
honestly it's all just so slow(consistent with front foot pressure) Im not willing to go any slower. And of course I've tried a stock tail and angle, what I've done has been just to add speed vs stock.
honestly the GL 140 was fine in terms of area and lift, even in small stuff, so going to the 1000(same span same area) should be fine in all but micro conditions.
the 1000 is what I could get hands on, and if that gives the feels on the good days I'll re-assess for micro days and maybe get the 1150
Select to expand quoteTooMuchEpoxy said..AnyBoard said..
TooMuchEpoxy
Lots of your comments don't add up. Gofoil is criticized as the most front footed foils of all (too lifty). Maybe the home made tail is incompatible.
100 kgs on a 24.5 mast trying to pump an NL160. If my understanding is correct the small mast is much flexier and being that short wont help either. I have seen big guys pump an NL160 effectively (2 and 3 for ones) but I don't think you can expect it to pump like a higher aspect wing like the 1210. Now the 1210 is known for its glide and pump but not its speed.
Pumping a 1210 better than a PNL also suggests something is very wrong with your setup. I have seen some ripping done on a PNL by big guys but it is 105cm wide and a downwind wing so obviously it wont surf as well as 93cms wide.
RS1000 is almost exactly the same wingspan and chord as the 980
RS 1150 is almost the same dimensions as the 1210. If you were suited to the 1210 then it seems obvious.
I think at your weight it is such a balancing act going for pump because it will compromise your turning. You don't have a choice but to trade these thing off. 980 cant pump like 1210 but 1210 cant turn like 980. Maybe the NL190 with a better mast and tail would have been more comparable on the turning and the pumping to the 1210.
I think anyone would agree the kujira's were great all round foils in terms of performance.
honestly it's all just so slow(consistent with front foot pressure) Im not willing to go any slower. And of course I've tried a stock tail and angle, what I've done has been just to add speed vs stock.
honestly the GL 140 was fine in terms of area and lift, even in small stuff, so going to the 1000(same span same area) should be fine in all but micro conditions.
the 1000 is what I could get hands on, and if that gives the feels on the good days I'll re-assess for micro days and maybe get the 1150
You were raving about GF the other day. So much better than everything else, now not so good. Big 180 turn. Your feedback is very fickle.
Select to expand quotehilly said..TooMuchEpoxy said..AnyBoard said..
TooMuchEpoxy
Lots of your comments don't add up. Gofoil is criticized as the most front footed foils of all (too lifty). Maybe the home made tail is incompatible.
100 kgs on a 24.5 mast trying to pump an NL160. If my understanding is correct the small mast is much flexier and being that short wont help either. I have seen big guys pump an NL160 effectively (2 and 3 for ones) but I don't think you can expect it to pump like a higher aspect wing like the 1210. Now the 1210 is known for its glide and pump but not its speed.
Pumping a 1210 better than a PNL also suggests something is very wrong with your setup. I have seen some ripping done on a PNL by big guys but it is 105cm wide and a downwind wing so obviously it wont surf as well as 93cms wide.
RS1000 is almost exactly the same wingspan and chord as the 980
RS 1150 is almost the same dimensions as the 1210. If you were suited to the 1210 then it seems obvious.
I think at your weight it is such a balancing act going for pump because it will compromise your turning. You don't have a choice but to trade these thing off. 980 cant pump like 1210 but 1210 cant turn like 980. Maybe the NL190 with a better mast and tail would have been more comparable on the turning and the pumping to the 1210.
I think anyone would agree the kujira's were great all round foils in terms of performance.
honestly it's all just so slow(consistent with front foot pressure) Im not willing to go any slower. And of course I've tried a stock tail and angle, what I've done has been just to add speed vs stock.
honestly the GL 140 was fine in terms of area and lift, even in small stuff, so going to the 1000(same span same area) should be fine in all but micro conditions.
the 1000 is what I could get hands on, and if that gives the feels on the good days I'll re-assess for micro days and maybe get the 1150
You were raving about GF the other day. So much better than everything else, now not so good. Big 180 turn. Your feedback is very fickle.
I'm on gofoil because the durability and construction are superior and I've been destroying everything else. It's been a struggle milking out the performance I'm looking for in beach break conditions where I need to be generating speed. In powered point break conditions it's a lot better as that's closer to what the foil was designed around.
Select to expand quoteTooMuchEpoxy said..hilly said..TooMuchEpoxy said..AnyBoard said..
TooMuchEpoxy
Lots of your comments don't add up. Gofoil is criticized as the most front footed foils of all (too lifty). Maybe the home made tail is incompatible.
100 kgs on a 24.5 mast trying to pump an NL160. If my understanding is correct the small mast is much flexier and being that short wont help either. I have seen big guys pump an NL160 effectively (2 and 3 for ones) but I don't think you can expect it to pump like a higher aspect wing like the 1210. Now the 1210 is known for its glide and pump but not its speed.
Pumping a 1210 better than a PNL also suggests something is very wrong with your setup. I have seen some ripping done on a PNL by big guys but it is 105cm wide and a downwind wing so obviously it wont surf as well as 93cms wide.
RS1000 is almost exactly the same wingspan and chord as the 980
RS 1150 is almost the same dimensions as the 1210. If you were suited to the 1210 then it seems obvious.
I think at your weight it is such a balancing act going for pump because it will compromise your turning. You don't have a choice but to trade these thing off. 980 cant pump like 1210 but 1210 cant turn like 980. Maybe the NL190 with a better mast and tail would have been more comparable on the turning and the pumping to the 1210.
I think anyone would agree the kujira's were great all round foils in terms of performance.
honestly it's all just so slow(consistent with front foot pressure) Im not willing to go any slower. And of course I've tried a stock tail and angle, what I've done has been just to add speed vs stock.
honestly the GL 140 was fine in terms of area and lift, even in small stuff, so going to the 1000(same span same area) should be fine in all but micro conditions.
the 1000 is what I could get hands on, and if that gives the feels on the good days I'll re-assess for micro days and maybe get the 1150
You were raving about GF the other day. So much better than everything else, now not so good. Big 180 turn. Your feedback is very fickle.
I'm on gofoil because the durability and construction are superior and I've been destroying everything else. It's been a struggle milking out the performance I'm looking for in beach break conditions where I need to be generating speed. In powered point break conditions it's a lot better as that's closer to what the foil was designed around.
What is that performance?
looks ok
www.instagram.com/reel/CXMfwNdB191/?utm_medium=share_sheet
Select to expand quotehilly said..TooMuchEpoxy said..hilly said..TooMuchEpoxy said..AnyBoard said..
TooMuchEpoxy
Lots of your comments don't add up. Gofoil is criticized as the most front footed foils of all (too lifty). Maybe the home made tail is incompatible.
100 kgs on a 24.5 mast trying to pump an NL160. If my understanding is correct the small mast is much flexier and being that short wont help either. I have seen big guys pump an NL160 effectively (2 and 3 for ones) but I don't think you can expect it to pump like a higher aspect wing like the 1210. Now the 1210 is known for its glide and pump but not its speed.
Pumping a 1210 better than a PNL also suggests something is very wrong with your setup. I have seen some ripping done on a PNL by big guys but it is 105cm wide and a downwind wing so obviously it wont surf as well as 93cms wide.
RS1000 is almost exactly the same wingspan and chord as the 980
RS 1150 is almost the same dimensions as the 1210. If you were suited to the 1210 then it seems obvious.
I think at your weight it is such a balancing act going for pump because it will compromise your turning. You don't have a choice but to trade these thing off. 980 cant pump like 1210 but 1210 cant turn like 980. Maybe the NL190 with a better mast and tail would have been more comparable on the turning and the pumping to the 1210.
I think anyone would agree the kujira's were great all round foils in terms of performance.
honestly it's all just so slow(consistent with front foot pressure) Im not willing to go any slower. And of course I've tried a stock tail and angle, what I've done has been just to add speed vs stock.
honestly the GL 140 was fine in terms of area and lift, even in small stuff, so going to the 1000(same span same area) should be fine in all but micro conditions.
the 1000 is what I could get hands on, and if that gives the feels on the good days I'll re-assess for micro days and maybe get the 1150
You were raving about GF the other day. So much better than everything else, now not so good. Big 180 turn. Your feedback is very fickle.
I'm on gofoil because the durability and construction are superior and I've been destroying everything else. It's been a struggle milking out the performance I'm looking for in beach break conditions where I need to be generating speed. In powered point break conditions it's a lot better as that's closer to what the foil was designed around.
What is that performance?
looks ok
www.instagram.com/reel/CXMfwNdB191/?utm_medium=share_sheet
Yeah, it looks pretty good. RS series is the only reason i'm on gofoil. These other wings are just placeholders.
Select to expand quoteTooMuchEpoxy said..hilly said..TooMuchEpoxy said..hilly said..TooMuchEpoxy said..AnyBoard said..
TooMuchEpoxy
Lots of your comments don't add up. Gofoil is criticized as the most front footed foils of all (too lifty). Maybe the home made tail is incompatible.
100 kgs on a 24.5 mast trying to pump an NL160. If my understanding is correct the small mast is much flexier and being that short wont help either. I have seen big guys pump an NL160 effectively (2 and 3 for ones) but I don't think you can expect it to pump like a higher aspect wing like the 1210. Now the 1210 is known for its glide and pump but not its speed.
Pumping a 1210 better than a PNL also suggests something is very wrong with your setup. I have seen some ripping done on a PNL by big guys but it is 105cm wide and a downwind wing so obviously it wont surf as well as 93cms wide.
RS1000 is almost exactly the same wingspan and chord as the 980
RS 1150 is almost the same dimensions as the 1210. If you were suited to the 1210 then it seems obvious.
I think at your weight it is such a balancing act going for pump because it will compromise your turning. You don't have a choice but to trade these thing off. 980 cant pump like 1210 but 1210 cant turn like 980. Maybe the NL190 with a better mast and tail would have been more comparable on the turning and the pumping to the 1210.
I think anyone would agree the kujira's were great all round foils in terms of performance.
honestly it's all just so slow(consistent with front foot pressure) Im not willing to go any slower. And of course I've tried a stock tail and angle, what I've done has been just to add speed vs stock.
honestly the GL 140 was fine in terms of area and lift, even in small stuff, so going to the 1000(same span same area) should be fine in all but micro conditions.
the 1000 is what I could get hands on, and if that gives the feels on the good days I'll re-assess for micro days and maybe get the 1150
You were raving about GF the other day. So much better than everything else, now not so good. Big 180 turn. Your feedback is very fickle.
I'm on gofoil because the durability and construction are superior and I've been destroying everything else. It's been a struggle milking out the performance I'm looking for in beach break conditions where I need to be generating speed. In powered point break conditions it's a lot better as that's closer to what the foil was designed around.
What is that performance?
looks ok
www.instagram.com/reel/CXMfwNdB191/?utm_medium=share_sheet
Yeah, it looks pretty good. RS series is the only reason i'm on gofoil. These other wings are just placeholders.
I'm guessing your gonna find something wrong with it....
I'm lost - toomuchepoxy- do you have the RS 1000 and have ridden it or is the slowness / front foot pressure you attest to, is concerning the previous GF lines ?
Indeed I too am a bit lost. Started this thread to talk about the new RS/GT range of GoFoils.
TOOmuch - not sure what tail setup you are running. However having made many changes of my own stabs I can honestly say the FT totally change the feel of the NL's in the best way. There is so much going on with tails that it is very easy to make a misstep and end up with a brake. Personal experience with that.
As for foot pressure - if the boxes are parallel to the deck and the foil is in CoG for the whole setup both the NL's and RS is neutral. You can make it either front or back foot biased if that floats your boat but I find them perfectly balanced, predictable and damn fun to ride.
Rich
Yeh - tails are key. Been playing around with this for a while now. Different tails, shims, mast placement considerably change the same front foils characteristics.
Hi Rich, I think you bought my old GoFoil mainly for the mast. If it was you I was sad to see that you wrecked it on some rocks. The new Go Foils are sounding real good now. In fact all the foil brands have come a long way. Great to see the progress!
Like your set up description. That is how I set up my Armstrong foils and prefer the 0 degree at this time with flying V. New secret weapon tail is coming from a local producer.
So as a competent wing dinger at 70kgs is the RS 1000 the go? I'm currently using Cloud 9 F32 and a 60L board in waves and flat water. I love this combo but upgraditis is starting to bite.
Johndg indeed that is I. I'm pretty good at finding the reef at full speed. Thankfully GF gear is insanely strong. Well not that time. Haha.
Glad your gear is working well for you.
Robbo - absolutely coupled with a FT-S you will be frothing. Could almost try a GT 750 too at your weight.
All i'm trying to say is that despite many tail configurations including stock ive yet to have a great session on the NL160 or PNL. They both feel too big (which makes sense because they are both the biggest foils ive riddin in years). The PNL doesnt turn great (which makes sense because its 42 in long) The NL feels very slow (which makes sense because its very low aspect and THICK and designed to keep and old ass man in the pocket on a chest high point break)
The best size gofoil i've ridden was the GL140 which is the same span and close on area to the RS1000. I don't ride this wing because, despite being a good size, it as a number of awful design issues.
The reason i continue to ride gofoil despite not liking their wings is the durability. I've destroyed most other brands foils pretty quickly, Gofoil is holding up. Its is also not a 20 lb aluminum boat anchor which is nice.
I'm excited to ride the RS series becase it takes steps to solving alot of the speed issues im having. Its thinner(15.8 mm, vs 16.8 on the PNL vs 26.4 on the NL 160). The trailing edge is faired to an appropriate edge. Anhedral is eliminated.
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All i'm trying to say is that despite many tail configurations including stock ive yet to have a great session on the NL160 or PNL. They both feel too big (which makes sense because they are both the biggest foils ive riddin in years). The PNL doesnt turn great (which makes sense because its 42 in long) The NL feels very slow (which makes sense because its very low aspect and THICK and designed to keep and old ass man in the pocket on a chest high point break)
The best size gofoil i've ridden was the GL140 which is the same span and close on area to the RS1000. I don't ride this wing because, despite being a good size, it as a number of awful design issues.
The reason i continue to ride gofoil despite not liking their wings is the durability. I've destroyed most other brands foils pretty quickly, Gofoil is holding up. Its is also not a 20 lb aluminum boat anchor which is nice.
I'm excited to ride the RS series becase it takes steps to solving alot of the speed issues im having. Its thinner(15.8 mm, vs 16.8 on the PNL vs 26.4 on the NL 160). The trailing edge is faired to an appropriate edge. Anhedral is eliminated.
Just ride and enjoy ffs
Select to expand quoteTooMuchEpoxy said..
All i'm trying to say is that despite many tail configurations including stock ive yet to have a great session on the NL160 or PNL. They both feel too big (which makes sense because they are both the biggest foils ive riddin in years). The PNL doesnt turn great (which makes sense because its 42 in long) The NL feels very slow (which makes sense because its very low aspect and THICK and designed to keep and old ass man in the pocket on a chest high point break)
The best size gofoil i've ridden was the GL140 which is the same span and close on area to the RS1000. I don't ride this wing because, despite being a good size, it as a number of awful design issues.
The reason i continue to ride gofoil despite not liking their wings is the durability. I've destroyed most other brands foils pretty quickly, Gofoil is holding up. Its is also not a 20 lb aluminum boat anchor which is nice.
I'm excited to ride the RS series becase it takes steps to solving alot of the speed issues im having. Its thinner(15.8 mm, vs 16.8 on the PNL vs 26.4 on the NL 160). The trailing edge is faired to an appropriate edge. Anhedral is eliminated.
So have you ridden the RS yet? I'm guessing no.
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The PNL doesnt turn great (which makes sense because its 42 in long) The NL feels very slow (which makes sense because its very low aspect and THICK and designed to keep and old ass man in the pocket on a chest high point break)
The best size gofoil i've ridden was the GL140 which is the same span and close on area to the RS1000. I don't ride this wing because, despite being a good size, it as a number of awful design issues.
I am finding this thread very informative. I graduated from slingshot to gofoil, at the time there were few options available for an all carbon set up, GoFoil was most affordable since everyone was dumping the old low aspect gear to move to higher performance brands (which was an incredibly poor biz decision, dominant market player pretty much gave it away). It is interesting now to see people moving back to GF.
Seems funny to describe NL as "very low aspect", if you compare it to an Iwa or Maliko! I first upgraded to GL series, which I didn't really bond with, quickly updated to NL 160, which has been my go to. I still have GL240 for light days. I am struggling with getting where I want to be in pumping with my NL 160 -- which is think is a combo of poor technique and this not being the best pumper. I got a PNL185, the pump is incredible, never felt that forward drive like that before ... but I find it challenging in faster more powerful waves, and turns slow generally. I've since picked up a "cheap" NL190 from the early adopters, I think this will be my small wave go-to until I figure out this new gear.
I am not yet ready to jump in with the credit card until I have more info, see some real world testing. I have got on the hype train before and been disappointed, particularly when the current must-have becomes last year's dung-heap the moment the new thing comes out. So the question that needs answering is if they are game changers or how much of the glowing reports is stoke goggles. Seeing the world's best on video does nothing to convince me, as they would rip on my old slingshot gear and, frankly, they are paid in free gear so are obligated to say nice things. Or even if they are not paid-for, there is always a risk of the cognitive dissonance thing, if you shell out $x,000 for new gear, you have to be psychologically convinced it is well worth it, or face up to it being not very smart....and so here I am, cynical, paranoid, scared to make the leap ... but also desperately wanting more more more. :-)
Anyways, back to my pump problems, I am confident it is 80% technique, need to watch more videos, analyze, and practice. Also need to get more cardio fitness and leg strength, if I am to be a >60 second man. (at the moment I will settle for greater than 20 second)
Select to expand quotejuandesooka said..TooMuchEpoxy said..
The PNL doesnt turn great (which makes sense because its 42 in long) The NL feels very slow (which makes sense because its very low aspect and THICK and designed to keep and old ass man in the pocket on a chest high point break)
The best size gofoil i've ridden was the GL140 which is the same span and close on area to the RS1000. I don't ride this wing because, despite being a good size, it as a number of awful design issues.
I am finding this thread very informative. I graduated from slingshot to gofoil, at the time there were few options available for an all carbon set up, GoFoil was most affordable since everyone was dumping the old low aspect gear to move to higher performance brands (which was an incredibly poor biz decision, dominant market player pretty much gave it away). It is interesting now to see people moving back to GF.
Seems funny to describe NL as "very low aspect", if you compare it to an Iwa or Maliko! I first upgraded to GL series, which I didn't really bond with, quickly updated to NL 160, which has been my go to. I still have GL240 for light days. I am struggling with getting where I want to be in pumping with my NL 160 -- which is think is a combo of poor technique and this not being the best pumper. I got a PNL185, the pump is incredible, never felt that forward drive like that before ... but I find it challenging in faster more powerful waves, and turns slow generally. I've since picked up a "cheap" NL190 from the early adopters, I think this will be my small wave go-to until I figure out this new gear.
I am not yet ready to jump in with the credit card until I have more info, see some real world testing. I have got on the hype train before and been disappointed, particularly when the current must-have becomes last year's dung-heap the moment the new thing comes out. So the question that needs answering is if they are game changers or how much of the glowing reports is stoke goggles. Seeing the world's best on video does nothing to convince me, as they would rip on my old slingshot gear and, frankly, they are paid in free gear so are obligated to say nice things. Or even if they are not paid-for, there is always a risk of the cognitive dissonance thing, if you shell out $x,000 for new gear, you have to be psychologically convinced it is well worth it, or face up to it being not very smart....and so here I am, cynical, paranoid, scared to make the leap ... but also desperately wanting more more more. :-)
Anyways, back to my pump problems, I am confident it is 80% technique, need to watch more videos, analyze, and practice. Also need to get more cardio fitness and leg strength, if I am to be a >60 second man. (at the moment I will settle for greater than 20 second)
Can you get hold of demos? I know Hilly did after watching Richman go off like a frog in a sock. I'm sure Hilly will speak for himself but I trust his opinion. He was right about Armstrong before most even heard of the brand way way back.
Select to expand quotejuandesooka said..TooMuchEpoxy said..
The PNL doesnt turn great (which makes sense because its 42 in long) The NL feels very slow (which makes sense because its very low aspect and THICK and designed to keep and old ass man in the pocket on a chest high point break)
The best size gofoil i've ridden was the GL140 which is the same span and close on area to the RS1000. I don't ride this wing because, despite being a good size, it as a number of awful design issues.
I am finding this thread very informative. I graduated from slingshot to gofoil, at the time there were few options available for an all carbon set up, GoFoil was most affordable since everyone was dumping the old low aspect gear to move to higher performance brands (which was an incredibly poor biz decision, dominant market player pretty much gave it away). It is interesting now to see people moving back to GF.
Seems funny to describe NL as "very low aspect", if you compare it to an Iwa or Maliko! I first upgraded to GL series, which I didn't really bond with, quickly updated to NL 160, which has been my go to. I still have GL240 for light days. I am struggling with getting where I want to be in pumping with my NL 160 -- which is think is a combo of poor technique and this not being the best pumper. I got a PNL185, the pump is incredible, never felt that forward drive like that before ... but I find it challenging in faster more powerful waves, and turns slow generally. I've since picked up a "cheap" NL190 from the early adopters, I think this will be my small wave go-to until I figure out this new gear.
I am not yet ready to jump in with the credit card until I have more info, see some real world testing. I have got on the hype train before and been disappointed, particularly when the current must-have becomes last year's dung-heap the moment the new thing comes out. So the question that needs answering is if they are game changers or how much of the glowing reports is stoke goggles. Seeing the world's best on video does nothing to convince me, as they would rip on my old slingshot gear and, frankly, they are paid in free gear so are obligated to say nice things. Or even if they are not paid-for, there is always a risk of the cognitive dissonance thing, if you shell out $x,000 for new gear, you have to be psychologically convinced it is well worth it, or face up to it being not very smart....and so here I am, cynical, paranoid, scared to make the leap ... but also desperately wanting more more more. :-)
Anyways, back to my pump problems, I am confident it is 80% technique, need to watch more videos, analyze, and practice. Also need to get more cardio fitness and leg strength, if I am to be a >60 second man. (at the moment I will settle for greater than 20 second)
I only jumped after seeing them in action and having a demo ride. I strongly recommend you do this as your existing gear may be just as good at what you want it to do. My criteria were turning and 'feel' which the RS excelled at for me. They are not 'game changers' and will not turn me into Austin but they are a step up from my present kit IMO.
I think we can all agree that marketing and a few perfectly placed team riders creates the hype. We just follow. GoFoil marketing has been woeful, if it wasn't for the Australian website I don't think you would even know they exist.
I've ridden every GF from the IWA. They were the only carbon one I could afford and I had a mate that had wings so it was easy. Fast forward a few years and I'm still banging away and making some slow improvements. GoFoil have always been the fastest foils I've ridden, also at times some of the trickiest to master. Whilst it's been fun and frustrating at times they have changed with the RS/GT/EZI line up.
They have managed to not reinvent the wheel or sell you down some crazy rabbit hole cause it works for 60kg 18yo's, but managed to make a foil range that works well in a wide variety of conditions and is easy to ride but encourages you to look for new ways to ride the same patch of ocean.
I can't speak for the rest of the range as I only have a 1000, but I feel my riding has improved markedly since getting on it. Confidence to try new turns and really push the foil and myself each session. It just rewards you for trying. Try a new turn, try that same turn but push harder, then harder again, go down the line out running a wave you shouldn't be near and not in that position. Tick. Stand there and just glide and pump - tick. It just works. The foil has more performance than I will ever need but it doesn't punish me for being a kook, it encourages me to go harder.
Eppo get your ass down here, use my gear. That goes for anyone in the Wa region.
I am no expert on anything but I remember someone telling me years ago that if a plane doesn't look like it should fly then there is a fair chance it will be a pig. Never seen a plane wing that looks like some of the various designs in foil land, but I've seen and flown many that resemble a GF wing!
Horrocks first Rich then might head down for a bit to see what the fuss is all about after Chrissy lol.
No demos up here in the wilderness of Vancouver Island Canada lol! But we have an increasing gofoil crew up here, as more people buy our cast-offs, so maybe we can be the Canadian test center. For stress testing, if we can't break it, they can be sure it's good. And for testing gear capability: either we aren't as good as the average elsewhere (probably) or the cold water / fresh water / extra 20lbs of rubber / extra 10lbs of blubber robs us of some potential, as we just never quite seem to be able to do what we see in the videos, and also, over and over in kiting/surfing/winging/foiling we see people arrive from elsewhere and kinda suck compared to their usual. Yes, now I am making excuses. 
Being honest, in past few months I have considered abandoning gofoil for other brands. I have friends who are consistently doing better than me but I don't think they are any more capable skill wise -- the clearest test being downwind winging, where they are standing there gliding without pumping for 30-60sec at a time, and I am right behind them, but after 10-15sec I tend to need to gain some power or come off foil. I have been planning to try their gear in side by side testing ... and if it's the "holy crap" miracle, then I am out. Or if not, then I know I need to focus on skills and training.
Anyways, now seeing GoFoil has pretty much abandoned all their prior gear lines is partially a "WTF" but also kinda gives me more hope. You don't replace what is already working optimally. TME's complaints mirror my experiences. A 5-10% improvement may be all I need to push me over the edge into multiple hour foil-gasms! I remain hopeful and look forward to trying buddies' wings soon 
I was really impressed with the Rs1000 as a mid aspect surf or wing foil. Amazing turning and drive with great low end lift. Its very easy to ride and forgiving of breaches. My main gripe was I could feel turbulence and drag coming from somewhere on the fuse or tail. I got out of the water wanting one!
If you're looking for an all around wave riding foil, I'd choose this or the Lift 120HA depending on the glide vs turning you want.
I've also heard great things about the kujira 1095. Haven't tried it but based off the design its a definite step forward in performance from their previous wings.
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All i'm trying to say is that despite many tail configurations including stock ive yet to have a great session on the NL160 or PNL. They both feel too big (which makes sense because they are both the biggest foils ive riddin in years). The PNL doesnt turn great (which makes sense because its 42 in long) The NL feels very slow (which makes sense because its very low aspect and THICK and designed to keep and old ass man in the pocket on a chest high point break)
The best size gofoil i've ridden was the GL140 which is the same span and close on area to the RS1000. I don't ride this wing because, despite being a good size, it as a number of awful design issues.
The reason i continue to ride gofoil despite not liking their wings is the durability. I've destroyed most other brands foils pretty quickly, Gofoil is holding up. Its is also not a 20 lb aluminum boat anchor which is nice.
I'm excited to ride the RS series becase it takes steps to solving alot of the speed issues im having. Its thinner(15.8 mm, vs 16.8 on the PNL vs 26.4 on the NL 160). The trailing edge is faired to an appropriate edge. Anhedral is eliminated.
So have you ridden the RS yet? I'm guessing no.
My bad toomuchepoxy I see way back you said your RS is under the Christmas tree. 
I'm finding the biggest issue with the RS is people keep stealing my gear.. end up stuck at home with the kids. Hehe
God damn every time I have a break and get back on this foil it blows my mind again.
Sooo fast and controllable. No locked in speed feel. Going Mach 2 but want to crank a turn - be my guest. Approaching the stall speed but a fun section appears - go for it.
So insanely versatile.
I'm actually now finding my brain remembering long forgotten aspects of surfing and trying them with this foil. So much fun and so forgiving to ride hard!!
FROTH MONSTER
Missing being in the waves.
Even though the 1000 isn't a DW specific wing it still has an amazing amount of glide.
Jumped on a mates setup yesterday - felt like I was locked in and slow. The RS is just so loose and controlled. This really is an amazing and versatile wing.
Given I'm nudging 90kg and this is my only foil it's range it huuuuuuge.
