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Created by RichJam > 9 months ago, 3 Dec 2021
RichJam
WA, 237 posts
15 Dec 2021 7:26PM
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Mid aspect DW beast.

db541
65 posts
16 Dec 2021 3:24AM
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RichJam said..


Mid aspect DW beast.


Digging mine as well as 1250 GT. Have the 12.5 fts coming end of the week, psyched to try it!

RichJam
WA, 237 posts
16 Dec 2021 2:43PM
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Wouldn't mind a go of a GT one day. Stoked you are liking them.
If I towed more the 12.5 FTS would be amazing. I'll just have to make do with the 12.5 and the pedestal.

db541
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17 Dec 2021 12:25AM
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RichJam said..
Wouldn't mind a go of a GT one day. Stoked you are liking them.
If I towed more the 12.5 FTS would be amazing. I'll just have to make do with the 12.5 and the pedestal.


I'm thinking it should be insane for prone, why do you think it would be good for tow? I tried the 6.5 pedestal w the 14.5 flip tip, no contest compared to 14.5 fts

TooMuchEpoxy
317 posts
17 Dec 2021 5:40AM
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db541 said..

RichJam said..
Wouldn't mind a go of a GT one day. Stoked you are liking them.
If I towed more the 12.5 FTS would be amazing. I'll just have to make do with the 12.5 and the pedestal.



I'm thinking it should be insane for prone, why do you think it would be good for tow? I tried the 6.5 pedestal w the 14.5 flip tip, no contest compared to 14.5 fts


Is the angle any different? Can someone throw the digital angle gauge on it Vs an assembled pedestal and flip tip?

eppo
WA, 9572 posts
17 Dec 2021 6:04AM
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Can someone explain to me first the difference between what an assembled pedestal and a flip tip tail are? Lol.

TooMuchEpoxy
317 posts
17 Dec 2021 7:41AM
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eppo said..
Can someone explain to me first the difference between what an assembled pedestal and a flip tip tail are? Lol.


I was asking for a comparison between the the FTS and the fully assembled pedestal and flip tip combo.

RichJam
WA, 237 posts
17 Dec 2021 9:06AM
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I'll explain my comments.

I have the pedestals and a 12.5 so I'll use these. I would absolutely love a 12.5 FTS but I have to draw the line somewhere. $$

Regarding the difference between the tails here goes;
FT have a totally different foil shape. Much faster and looser. Not as much lift during turns but the additional speed cancels this out I find. The S version is also shorter than the 6.5inch ped by about 50mm. The fact that they are plug and play or set and forget it also great as they work great on every version of GF There is absolutely nothing wrong with the pedestals and old tails. The 14.5 is great, bit slow. The 12.5 is awesome but small.

tightlines
WA, 3486 posts
17 Dec 2021 9:27AM
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I can't keep up, and everyone complains Axis have to many options...

Scotty Mac
SA, 2055 posts
17 Dec 2021 12:32PM
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Kent just remember red = fast then you be pretty ok after that

RichJam
WA, 237 posts
17 Dec 2021 10:56AM
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I can't keep up, and everyone complains Axis have to many options...


Bahaha

There are literally 9 tail options in the whole go foil line up. Axis release that many a month.

Red rockets

TooMuchEpoxy
317 posts
17 Dec 2021 6:01PM
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RichJam said..
I'll explain my comments.

I have the pedestals and a 12.5 so I'll use these. I would absolutely love a 12.5 FTS but I have to draw the line somewhere. $$

Regarding the difference between the tails here goes;
FT have a totally different foil shape. Much faster and looser. Not as much lift during turns but the additional speed cancels this out I find. The S version is also shorter than the 6.5inch ped by about 50mm. The fact that they are plug and play or set and forget it also great as they work great on every version of GF There is absolutely nothing wrong with the pedestals and old tails. The 14.5 is great, bit slow. The 12.5 is awesome but small.



I was asking if the FT have a different angle compared to the old pedestal mounts. Do you have an angle gauge you can throw on them?

RichJam
WA, 237 posts
17 Dec 2021 6:52PM
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Yes they do.
Moving house so will be a few days.

RichJam
WA, 237 posts
20 Dec 2021 9:12AM
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To say I'm a bit excited is an understatement.
Given the amazing performance of the 1000 this little guy at 650 should be absolutely incredible. Never thought a 650 wing could be used under a wing but here's hoping!





baldy123
WA, 413 posts
20 Dec 2021 12:54PM
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I've had two sessions on my RS1000 and loving it, coming from an armie HS1250. The RS is smooth and has plenty of low end lift and glide for a wing of only 1000cm2. I'm 85kg and think this will be my primary winging foil for all wind above 15knots. Peak speed so far is 37.5km/h, I know it will go faster. Pitch stability is awesome and no sudden drop when the wing tips come out in turns. Still undecided whether to get a bigger RS wing or GT.

Gorgo
VIC, 5033 posts
20 Dec 2021 4:43PM
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Have we decided which is "THE" RS wing to get (in my case 77kg, moderate wind wing and small to heavy wind chop)

Everybody on this thread is frothing about the RS 1000, but the RS 1150 is the most ordered size. There's a couple of video reviews that push the RS 1150.

Given that the worst thing in wingdinging is being undergunned I'm a bit fearful of going too small.

The local heroes are on Axis wings of similar dimensions to the RS 1150 (ART 999 and HPS 880)

RichJam
WA, 237 posts
20 Dec 2021 2:48PM
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Hi Gorgo,

Normally I would err on the side of size. However the 1000 really does feel bigger than it is. Bottom end is great, slow speed characteristics are awesome and then you have all the advantages of a small wing.
Unless you are chasing the 6-12kt days winging I feel the 1000 will suit as you have access to power.
1150 would be awesome too but I can't vouch for it personally yet.
Rich.

baldy123
WA, 413 posts
20 Dec 2021 2:51PM
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I had the same dilemma. There are no RS 1150 wings in west Oz that I know of (hint hint Dylan, send some this way when they arrive). I'm happy with the RS1000. I think for wave winging this will be the one. For downwind flagging out and flat water the RS1150 might be a good all rounder. All speculation until I actually ride a bigger RS version. The bottom end of the RS1000 is better than the Armie HS1250 if that helps. I haven't had the RS1000 out in light winds as it's been so bloody windy in Perth for the last month.

pohaku
NSW, 851 posts
20 Dec 2021 10:09PM
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baldy123 said..

I had the same dilemma. There are no RS 1150 wings in west Oz that I know of (hint hint Dylan, send some this way when they arrive). I'm happy with the RS1000. I think for wave winging this will be the one. For downwind flagging out and flat water the RS1150 might be a good all rounder. All speculation until I actually ride a bigger RS version. The bottom end of the RS1000 is better than the Armie HS1250 if that helps. I haven't had the RS1000 out in light winds as it's been so bloody windy in Perth for the last month.


Ohhh boy there will be a box full heading to WA ! Just have to get my hands on them. It's the most ordered wing at the moment. I have one he he ! And I'm keeping my review very limited to two simple words of mind blown

pohaku
NSW, 851 posts
20 Dec 2021 10:11PM
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hilly
WA, 7436 posts
20 Dec 2021 7:27PM
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Not sure you need a 1150 the 1000 has heaps of lift for me @105kg+

Gorgo
VIC, 5033 posts
20 Dec 2021 10:55PM
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hilly said..
Not sure you need a 1150 the 1000 has heaps of lift for me @105kg+


Is that wave assisted or just wing power?

eppo
WA, 9572 posts
20 Dec 2021 9:28PM
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Have any of your frothers sup/proned surfed this wing yet ? If so please do tell. .

hilly
WA, 7436 posts
21 Dec 2021 1:22AM
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Gorgo said..

hilly said..
Not sure you need a 1150 the 1000 has heaps of lift for me @105kg+



Is that wave assisted or just wing power?


Wing ding only so far

AnyBoard
NSW, 285 posts
21 Dec 2021 9:53AM
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I now own an RS1000 and have prove foiled it 4 times and wing foiled it once in very gusty conditions on a lake just to try it out.
I have prone surfed the RS1150 once in fun very small gutless waves (have it on order). See Zane Westwood instagram if you wish to see what is possible for the best riders.
I am 65kgs 180cm and will have prone foiled for 4 years this Christmas and am 55 years old.

I was told the RS1000 doesn't pump as good as the NL160 but for my weight i am now sure i can pump the RS1000 better (prone surf). 3 for 1's very regular 2 for 1's standard. The RS1150 pumps much better again as you would expect and still turned ridiculously amazing for its wing span. Much better than the NL160 and around the same wingspan.

Based on my weight, limited experience with the RS and some common sense i think for winging waves i won't ever use the 1150 unless very light wind and swell and still unlikely. For wing foiling downwind (flag out) then i am looking forward to the 1150 for less than the best winds. If i am in a lake or flat water where winds are very gusty i will use the 1150 just for the start and the glide between gusts.

For prone foiling the RS1000 will be my daily ride but it is hard to imagine the heavier riders (85kg +) wont think the 1150 is their best daily option. I will still prone the 1150 when the pump is much more important than the surfing. I say this because the 1150 just turned so good in small waves (waist high) and the lift on these RS foils is just so subtle, making pitch stability thoughtless.

For those only buying one size RS foil for prone or SUP this will be a tough call. I remember then the Kijura 980 came out and all those heavier guys said this is all you need but not a few months later they were all riding the 1210 daily. Again common sense and the sizes line up almost exactly with the RS series in wingspan and chord. So maybe under 80kgs will love the 1000 and those over 80 with the waves and ability may still ride the 1000. Those over 85 looking for pure enjoyment may find the 1150 will leave the biggest of smiles in all but overhead wave. Just my opinion for what its worth.

Frothing on the RS1000. So amazing.

RichJam
WA, 237 posts
21 Dec 2021 7:22AM
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Anyboard that is awesome feedback. How I wish to be 65kg!


Now the other end of the spectrum 85-90kg. I have proned this wing in utter dribble like 6s .2ft wind swell and 10-12s 1.2-1.5m swell. It is god dang amazing.
Whilst I like the rest of the world have an 1150 on order I didn't but it specifically to prone surf. The 1000 is going to be my go too. The 1150 is for both demo purposes and to open a few doors like prone DW and wing DW when in Perth. For waves it will be 1000/650. It pumps better than the 160 and as it generates so much speed you cover distance rapidly.
Eppo for a one wing quiver the 1000 and FTS is all you will need.

eppo
WA, 9572 posts
21 Dec 2021 5:31PM
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Yeh at 75kg ya probably right rich. Haven't got my hands on one yet. Anyone coming to Mandurah these hols let us know ????

baldy123
WA, 413 posts
21 Dec 2021 6:43PM
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Eppo. I'll be down in Mandurah over Christmas and possibly new year. You can take my RS1000 for a spin one day if wind and waves are any good. I'm hoping for a Christmas Eve downwinger. I'm still adjusting to new foil and haven't had chance to get out in any decent sized waves. Pete.

eppo
WA, 9572 posts
21 Dec 2021 9:19PM
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Perfect. Sent my number to you. Although chrissy eve is looking at bit average at the moment on the forecast.

ps the RS is the right colour for Christmas that's for sure ho ho ho

AnyBoard
NSW, 285 posts
22 Dec 2021 10:11AM
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RichJam said..
Anyboard that is awesome feedback. How I wish to be 65kg!


Now the other end of the spectrum 85-90kg. I have proned this wing in utter dribble like 6s .2ft wind swell and 10-12s 1.2-1.5m swell. It is god dang amazing.
Whilst I like the rest of the world have an 1150 on order I didn't but it specifically to prone surf. The 1000 is going to be my go too. The 1150 is for both demo purposes and to open a few doors like prone DW and wing DW when in Perth. For waves it will be 1000/650. It pumps better than the 160 and as it generates so much speed you cover distance rapidly.
Eppo for a one wing quiver the 1000 and FTS is all you will need.


As a 65kg lightweight I was shocked at how well it did surf in tiny waves. If it shocked this lightweight then it will definitely surprise those heavier riders looking for high performance surfing in small waves. But yes eppo one wing quiver no question RS1000.

I am betting you will surf the 1150 semi regularly as the 1150 is just as surprising.

Enjoy



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